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Hahaha! wow....the Fox News misinformation is strong in this one.
Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss
Such gross and stupid incidents of racial incitement often turn out to be false flag operations.
Yes because there is simply no racism left in Mississippi.
Honestly, is there no end to the ability of some to rationalize this type of stupidity?
So you assume from the get go that it's a hoax? Witnesses saw two white guys do it. So your contention is that it's a hoax because....you have other evidence? You're looking for something to blame Liberals for? You just can't wrap your head around the fact that there are still racists in Mississippi? (clearly not everyone, but there's probably some as there are everywhere)
Who are the morons that convinced everyone that a hangman's noose is, by itself, racist?
Maybe you should actually read what I posted rather than try to make an accusation of me dismissing or ignoring the possibility that this is a hoax. Not only did I not do that, I in fact pointed out that it has been the case the past few times we saw this happen within this decade. However, we need more information to know anything. It could be a hoax, but it could also be some jerkwad racists. Or, it could all be some stupid, horrible, in extremely poor taste prank or dare. We simply don't know right now.
Now, I think it is stupid to post a reward for information on this of $25K since all that does is keep the attention there.
You assume from the git-go that it's an overtly racist act, spurred on by an entire culture?
If you didn't say that then the "for those outraged" doesn't apply to you.
The usual suspects always respond to these incidents as if it is a certainty that they were perpetrated by racist whites. .
Who are the morons that convinced everyone that a hangman's noose is, by itself, racist?
If you didn't say that then the "for those outraged" doesn't apply to you.
The usual suspects always respond to these incidents as if it is a certainty that they were perpetrated by racist whites. Ofttimes the response is in an especially exaggerated and hysterical manner. The recent incident at Oberlin is illustrative. For days after the college administration found out it was a hoax they went on with campus wide exercises in victim mongering, cancelling classes, holding special meetings, etc. When they found out who the perps were they hushed it up and refused to press charges.
So you assume from the get go that it's a hoax? Witnesses saw two white guys do it. So your contention is that it's a hoax because....you have other evidence? You're looking for something to blame Liberals for? You just can't wrap your head around the fact that there are still racists in Mississippi? (clearly not everyone, but there's probably some as there are everywhere)
And if you'll check, most instances of political false-flag operations tend to be committed by racists. Remember the girl who etched that backwards 'B' into her face? And how many times have we seen people claim that "some black guy did it" when it turns out they did it themselves?
Yes, there will be times that blacks use false-flag tactics - I've seen it myself. But it's much more often that racists whites do it, just so they can get away with whatever it is that they wanted to do. This is how a lot of blacks got lynched back in the day: "That white girl was raped and killed, so it must have been that n****r who did it!"
And FYI, I grew up about 30 miles from Ole Miss, and I've got family there in Oxford right now...and here's a little experience that might help you to understand what things are like there. The MS Delta has the highest percentage of African-Americans in America - Sunflower County (where my family home is (well, was until earlier this month)) is 71% black. And when I visited there for a couple weeks back in the summer of 2012, when the presidential election campaigning was at its height, guess how many Obama stickers and t-shirts I saw there?
None. Zero, zip, nada.
I asked a close black friend named Eddie (who knows I am a liberal Obama supporter) why this was, and he looked at me with sad eyes, and said, "You know why."
And he was right. I did know why. Because if a black guy were to have an Obama sticker or t-shirt, he or his family members would probably find themselves without jobs in this right-to-work state.
That's the way it is in Mississippi, guy. The whites - many (or perhaps most) of whom are still quite racist (including many in my own family) - still hold the power, both political and economic. And when I say that perhaps most are still racist, a Pew poll back in April of 2011 found that 46% of Republicans in this (heavily Republican) state STILL thought that interracial marriage should still be banned.
So...no, the noose around the statue was almost certainly not a false-flag operation. That's just the way it is in Mississippi. It's getting better, if only slowly, glacially so...but that state has a long, long way to go.
Where's the evidence? What does the eyewitness evidence support?
Guy, did you read my comment #23? If you haven't, then please do so - there's something that might help you understand what life in the MS Delta is like.
I said that I've personally seen those false-flag claims by blacks, too - but most of the time, it is by white racists. I'm sorry you don't believe that, but that's reality.
But more importantly, you seem to think that white racism isn't that bad. Again, I grew up there - I know how it really is. At one time I was one of those white racists - it's almost automatic when one grows up a white male in the MS Delta. That's simply the way it is. And you know what? The great majority of those white racists are what I call "good racists"...in that they would risk their lives without a second thought to save a black guy in danger - they'll invite the blacks into their homes, share a cup of coffee, give them lots of vegetables from the garden, shake hands with them or even give them a sincere hug...but as soon as the blacks are out of earshot, out comes the n-word and all the old assumptions and prejudices.
That's how it is Down South, guy. If you disagree or simply don't want to believe it, that's your problem...because I lived it. It's getting better, but only slowly.
For those outraged by the mere suggestion of it, here's a recounting of racial hoaxes over the last few years:
A recent history of hate-crime hoaxes | Conservative Intelligence Briefing
There is no excuse for dismissing or ignoring this possiblity.
I think this has become the most likely cause of such incidents. That is, at least when it is expressed in this sort of gross, raw, unmistakable form. There is plenty of racism of the "dogwhistle" sort; i.e., racism that only the especially sensitive sorts can appreciate.
Why would members of a minority fake such things? Perhaps they are not seeing enough real racism these days so they have to make it up. "Victim" is an identity too valuable to give up easily.
It's too bad that the police hold out little hope of catching who did it. Hoaxers tend to repeat, though, so we may yet find out if that's what's going on.
The story I linked did not say that witnesses saw anyone doing it, just that there were two white guys in the area. (And you assume that they must have done it?) The police had little hope of catching the person(s) who did it. If you are recalling a different news report then please link it.
Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss
Such gross and stupid incidents of racial incitement often turn out to be false flag operations.
The story I linked did not say that witnesses saw anyone doing it, just that there were two white guys in the area. (And you assume that they must have done it?) The police had little hope of catching the person(s) who did it. If you are recalling a different news report then please link it.
And yet they have a life sized bronze statue to honor a black civil rights hero on campus and everyone gets upset when it is dishonored. Some bunch of racists they are!
I've been to the Mississippi gulf coast many times where, in my experience, people have a more cosmopolitan attitude and you never seen racism openly expressed. I would think that the same would be true of a major university campus. The culture of the campus and that of the surrounding town are often completely different.
Why do you feel the need to preemptive come up with an excuse, especially one based on pure speculation?
I didn't say that. However when witnesses say that 2 white guys did it and hollered "white power" that seems pretty overtly racist to me. It has nothing to do with the South, but it does seem that theses 2 guys are racist.
Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss
Such gross and stupid incidents of racial incitement often turn out to be false flag operations.
So two white guys yell "white power," put a noose on the statue of the first black man to attend Ole Miss, and that's somehow not racist? It wasn't a random statue in a random place.
When it starts happening anywhere but in the South, I'll reassess.
Don't let them off the hook with the South.
I see this as the Fourth great wave of Southern repression against Blacks--
the Civil War, the KKK-inspired 1920's, the 1960's and Civil Rights, and Now.
About a 50-year average, or "half-life" .
Pro-Tip: Whatever conclusion you came up with while reading that headline is also speculation.
When it starts happening anywhere but in the South, I'll reassess.
Don't let them off the hook with the South.
I see this as the Fourth great wave of Southern repression against Blacks--
the Civil War, the KKK-inspired 1920's, the 1960's and Civil Rights, and Now.
About a 50-year average, or "half-life" .
Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss
Such gross and stupid incidents of racial incitement often turn out to be false flag operations.
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