Non-separation of church and State.

[NoahUSA]

The gaslighting is high considering the left has been the side exclusively changing the law to their religious beliefs the last 50 years

Thank you, i do apricate support in a world filled with leftist sinners. you are my savior today.

 

[NoahUSA]

Not having the government enshrine any religious beliefs does not change the law to anyone’s religious beliefs.

False, it enshrines the religious beliefs of the athiests.

 

[Questerr]

False, it enshrines the religious beliefs of the athiests.

Where does the law say “There is no god”?

Secularism =/= atheism.

 

[NoahUSA]

Where does the law say “There is no god”?

Secularism =/= atheism.

With law apart prom God it supports the beliefs of atheist's because it does not acknowledge Him.

 

[Questerr]

With law apart prom God it supports the beliefs of atheist's because it does not acknowledge Him.

Most religions don’t require laws to acknowledge god, does that mean those religions are atheist?

Why should the law acknowledge your preferred slavery-supporter and child murder-orderer?

 

[NoahUSA]

Most religions don’t require laws to acknowledge god, does that mean those religions are atheist?

Why should the law acknowledge your preferred slavery-supporter and child murder-orderer?

The law should acknowledge him because he is the base of this nation, we are one nation under God. That will not, and cannot change.

 

[Questerr]

The law should acknowledge him because he is the base of this nation, we are one nation under God. That will not, and cannot change.

The basis of this nation is the Constitution. “One nation under God” came about later, far later.

The Constitution specifically bans the establishment of an official religion in America, at the Federal or State level.

 

[Lursa]

America should be purely Christian. This is what the country was founded on and if we get away from that we will all be in for one hell (literally) of a ride from God. We must convert. Join or Die will become the new motto of the Christian front in America as we become more "Left or Die". You get canceled and dishonored, even fired of you aren't "inclusive". We must reform America and make it the most powerful, Christian country in the world. God bless America.

Why would you deliberately defy God? He gave us all free will to follow Him or not. Isnt that right? (It is) How do you justify usurping His Authority by using man's law to force His Word on all?

God was very clear about His Children choosing His Way, or not...who are you (or man's law) to deny His Will?

 

[NoahUSA]

It also banned alcohol at a time, that was changed and this can be as well. I understand the Constitution is the base of the nation, but it can be amended.

The basis of this nation is the Constitution. “One nation under God” came about later, far later.

The Constitution specifically bans the establishment of an official religion in America, at the Federal or State level.

Why would you deliberately defy God? He gave us all free will to follow Him or not. Isnt that right? (It is) How do you justify usurping His Authority by using man's law to force His Word on all?

God was very clear about His Children choosing His Way, or not...who are you (or man's law) to deny His Will?

Now, I did not once say there would be force, we can have other religions in the nation just the center should be Christian, also most of that post was to piss people off and see the reactions because y'all can be pretty funny sometimes.

 

[Questerr]

It also banned alcohol at a time, that was changed and this can be as well. I understand the Constitution is the base of the nation, but it can be amended.


Now, I did not once say there would be force, we can have other religions in the nation just the center should be Christian, also most of that post was to piss people off and see the reactions because y'all can be pretty funny sometimes.

So you admit that your god is not the base of the nation. Good.

Were you lying or just ignorant when you claimed it previously?

 

[NoahUSA]

So you admit that your god is not the base of the nation. Good.

Were you lying or just ignorant when you claimed it previously?

No, its more he is a cornerstone in the base if that makes sense, there are many things that make America what it is, the Constitution, God, government, the people, all of these things are bases for our nation, idk if that makes sense or not.

 

[Lursa]

Now, I did not once say there would be force, we can have other religions in the nation just the center should be Christian, also most of that post was to piss people off and see the reactions because y'all can be pretty funny sometimes.

Why? Wouldnt that place other religions and atheism, etc at a minority status if the laws reflected Christian beliefs? Wouldnt it be forcing Christian beliefs on them by law? It seems fortunate that there is a great deal of overlap in secular morality and Christian beliefs. Why should citizens that arent Christian, like Jews or atheists or Buddhists, etc have to recognize a "Christian identity' for the US?

What Christian beliefs are being forbidden or repressed today that you cannot practice your beliefs? I'm a Christian and I can.

What is wrong with following the Constitution? How does that make you any less Christian or interfere with your practicing Christianity? It was not meant to be some guide for any religion.

 

[Questerr]

No, its more he is a cornerstone in the base if that makes sense, there are many things that make America what it is, the Constitution, God, government, the people, all of these things are bases for our nation, idk if that makes sense or not.

Except the real cornerstone of America is representative electoral government and the consent of the governed. Your god cares about neither of those things. He would be an unelected absolute dictator, one who supports slavery and orders child murder.

 

[NoahUSA]

Why? Wouldnt that place other religions and atheism, etc at a minority status if the laws reflected Christian beliefs? Wouldnt it be forcing Christian beliefs on them by law? It seems fortunate that there is a great deal of overlap in secular morality and Christian beliefs. Why should citizens that arent Christian, like Jews or atheists or Buddhists, etc have to recognize a "Christian identity' for the US?

What Christian beliefs are being forbidden or repressed today that you cannot practice your beliefs? I'm a Christian and I can.

What is wrong with following the Constitution? How does that make you any less Christian or interfere with your practicing Christianity? It was not meant to be some guide for any religion.

I can and that is why it is important for it to stay that way. In history, dictatorships have taken away religion and that is my fear, we were very very lucky to live in a nation where Christianity is the main religion. It's my belief that the majority should have the most say so that's why I support the idea of a state religion.

 

[NoahUSA]

Except the real cornerstone of America is representative electoral government and the consent of the governed. Your god cares about neither of those things. He would be an unelected absolute dictator, one who supports slavery and orders child murder.

Slavery has been around almost for the entirety of humankind, it serves as an amazing punishment and it was foolish to take it away completely. Lincoln was a dictator, a false god. He was good for the blacks yes and freeing one race was the right thing to do but slavery is not uniquely American. A nation cannot stand on one single cornerstone, a good foundation is need or it will fall, that foundation is the Lord.

 

[Lursa]

I can and that is why it is important for it to stay that way. In history, dictatorships have taken away religion and that is my fear, we were very very lucky to live in a nation where Christianity is the main religion. It's my belief that the majority should have the most say so that's why I support the idea of a state religion.

Well, you need to re-educate yourself on the Const. It's specifically designed not to support tyranny of the majority over the minority.

Just think where blacks could be today if what you wanted was applied to race? It certainly was, even for a 100 yrs after the Civil War and even now.

Tell me why it's important for 'Christianity to be the main religion' if you dont believe in the law imposing those beliefs on others? You said it doesnt affect you practicing your religion. So then what do you need? (want?)

Would you have denied gay's marriage?

 

[NoahUSA]

Well, you need to re-educate yourself on the Const. It's specifically designed not to support tyranny of the majority over the minority.

Just think where blacks could be today if what you wanted was applied to race? It certainly was, even for a 100 yrs after the Civil War and even now.

Tell me why it's important for 'Christianity to be the main religion' if you dont believe in the law imposing those beliefs on others? You said it doesnt affect you practicing your religion. So then what do you need? (want?)

I don't expect to go to Israel and be in a Christian culture, other places have different religions that are important to their culture. In America that religion is Christianity so it deserves respect. And I am well versed in the Constitution, I never claimed the constitution said there should be majority rule, that was just my personal beliefs, it is important to understand people if you don't agree with them, try to know them better so that you see where they are coming from.

 

[Questerr]

Slavery has been around almost for the entirety of humankind, it serves as an amazing punishment and it was foolish to take it away completely. Lincoln was a dictator, a false god. He was good for the blacks yes and freeing one race was the right thing to do but slavery is not uniquely American. A nation cannot stand on one single cornerstone, a good foundation is need or it will fall, that foundation is the Lord.

Curious, when the children of slaves are themselves enslaved (as your god permits), what are they being punished for?

Do you think the US President has the power to change laws in other countries?

 

[Lursa]

I don't expect to go to Israel and be in a Christian culture, other places have different religions that are important to their culture. In America that religion is Christianity so it deserves respect.

No, it isnt. There specifically is no state religion. The intent is for all to practice as they choose...or not.

And I dont see any movement to disrespect Christianity except when it is being used to force religious beliefs on everyone...which we've already discussed. That's denying God's Will.

And I am well versed in the Constitution, I never claimed the constitution said there should be majority rule, that was just my personal beliefs, it is important to understand people if you don't agree with them, try to know them better so that you see where they are coming from.

You didnt answer my question about gay marriage...that might clarify exactly why your 'personal beliefs' may make a difference.

 

[Questerr]

I don't expect to go to Israel and be in a Christian culture, other places have different religions that are important to their culture. In America that religion is Christianity so it deserves respect. And I am well versed in the Constitution, I never claimed the constitution said there should be majority rule, that was just my personal beliefs, it is important to understand people if you don't agree with them, try to know them better so that you see where they are coming from.

The religion is America is not Christianity. America has no single religion.

You claimed the Constitution doesn’t ban states from having official eligible (it does). You clearly aren’t “well versed in the Constitution”.

 

[Lursa]

Curious, when the children of slaves are themselves enslaved (as your god permits), what are they being punished for?

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[NoahUSA]

If slavery worked as a form of punishment they wouldn't have kids. And I didn't see the question on the gays.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Curious, when the children of slaves are themselves enslaved (as your god permits), what are they being punished for?

Haven't you heard? He is a jealous God, punishing the children for the trespasses of their parents to the 3rd and 4th generation. He had his armies stab little babies to death in the iron age for things that their ancestors did all the way back in the bronze age.

 

[Lursa]

If slavery worked as a form of punishment they wouldn't have kids.

So then it's a failed system. Thank you for that acknowledgement. It's cruel and takes advantage for no moral purpose.

And I didn't see the question on the gays.

OK, well feel free to look at it, in my post, in context. Interestingly, you copied my entire post EXCEPT for that sentence, which you removed. That seems...dishonest.

(Even more interestingly, it's post 666 for reference.)

 

[Questerr]

If slavery worked as a form of punishment they wouldn't have kids. And I didn't see the question on the gays.

Here’s the problem: you think slavery was intended solely as a form of punishment.

But then this thread has shown that you as massively ignorant about many things, so it’s not surprising.