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Except the trend since 2006 is up, but your graph (ending at 2015) cuts that off.
Except the trend since 2006 is up, but your graph (ending at 2015) cuts that off.
Yes.
Recovery!
Twelve years of upward trend.
Recovery!
I’m beginning to see how all these denier blogs are able to confuse you so easily, especially when you combine it with the confidence/arrogance of not wanting to be wrong.
Here’s the updated graph. Would have looked for September, but since you’ll dismiss whatever I post anyway, I wont expend the effort.
It should be pointed out that the two graphs represent two different numbers,As I said, upward trend from 2006 to the present, despite constant doomsaying during those years.
It should be pointed out that the two graphs represent two different numbers,
One is sea ice volume, the other is sea ice extent.
These are very different measurements, and both could in theory be correct.
A fair point, although to my eye it looks like extent too is up over 2006.
I am not seeing the graph, you found, but it is also possible that the OSI SAF calculates sea ice extent differently thanA fair point, although to my eye it looks like extent too is up over 2006.
I am not seeing the graph, you found, but it is also possible that the OSI SAF calculates sea ice extent differently than
say NSIDC, who I think uses a 30% coverage number.
The graph in #118?
I was trying to find the data from the source the DMI. But do not have a login.
Ocean and Ice Services | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut
I tried to search for volume, and came up with no hits, but suspect the data is there somewhere.There is a click "here" at the bottom of the page.
It has everything to do with it. That's essentially what 'projection' is.Wrong. No there isn't. You made it up. "Projection" has nothing to do with contextomy (taking someone's words out of context to change the meaning). Absolutely zero.
I use the term from logic.And if you want to use that the term "projection" that's fine.
False authority fallacy. Argument of ignorance fallacy.People will at least understand what you are accusing them of instead of a made up 'Inversion' fallacy that can't be found in any reference source.
Argument of ignorance fallacy. Inversion fallacy.So it's completely illogical to use it.
Buzzword fallacy. False authority fallacy.You might as well tell them they are using the Third Flush of the Porcelain Throne fallacy as it makes no sense either and can't be found in any standard reference text.
Void argument fallacy.No it's not, as I can give complete quotes from him showing that's what he thought it was.
Yes it is. You obviously don't know logic notation.That isn't a logical form that makes any sense
Yes it does. The form I gave shows formally what an inversion fallacy is (as well as 'projection').and it certainly can't be applied to the concept of 'projection'.
False authority fallacy. Argument of ignorance fallacy.You were also unable to give an example or a standard reference.
I did still do construct logical arguments.If you want to learn how to construct logical arguments,
Already have.take a couple of classes in logic
There is no fixed list of logical fallacies. False authority fallacy.instead of using a list of logical fallacies
I am using them correctly Redefinition fallacy (logic->void)and using them incorrectly.
Stop making fallacies, and I won't keep calling you on them.Especially your overuse of them as a blunt instrument to bash everyone on the head all the time,
I am presenting valid arguments. You want to quibble over irrelevant details, try to deny and redefine logic, play word games, etc. It is YOU making fallacies. YOU need to start presenting arguments free of fallacy.instead of actually presenting a valid argument
I would like nothing better. Takes two to tango, you know.or having a discussion.
Redefinition fallacy (logic->void). Logic is not any 'level' (much less an 'academic' one!). It simply is. It is YOUR problem you don't understand combinatorial notation or set notation.It's pretty clear you've never studied logic at an academic level.
I tried to search for volume, and came up with no hits, but suspect the data is there somewhere.
I tried to search for volume, and came up with no hits, but suspect the data is there somewhere.
It has everything to do with it. That's essentially what 'projection' is.
I use the term from logic.
False authority fallacy. Argument of ignorance fallacy.
Argument of ignorance fallacy. Inversion fallacy.
Buzzword fallacy. False authority fallacy.
Void argument fallacy.
Yes it is. You obviously don't know logic notation.
Yes it does. The form I gave shows formally what an inversion fallacy is (as well as 'projection').
False authority fallacy. Argument of ignorance fallacy.
I did still do construct logical arguments.
Already have.
There is no fixed list of logical fallacies. False authority fallacy.
I am using them correctly Redefinition fallacy (logic->void)
Stop making fallacies, and I won't keep calling you on them.
I am presenting valid arguments. You want to quibble over irrelevant details, try to deny and redefine logic, play word games, etc. It is YOU making fallacies. YOU need to start presenting arguments free of fallacy.
I would like nothing better. Takes two to tango, you know.
Redefinition fallacy (logic->void). Logic is not any 'level' (much less an 'academic' one!). It simply is. It is YOUR problem you don't understand combinatorial notation or set notation.
Fallacies aren't "made up"; they simply are. One need only understand the axioms of logic and correctly apply them to avoid making fallacies... You seem to have issues doing that...Complete and utter bollocks. It's completely irrational to just make up pretend logical fallacies that can't be found in any reference source.
Redefinition Fallacy. You are redefining the word logic to the word void.You might as well just repeat over and over again MyMadeUpThingaMajig fallacy!
Dictionaries don't coin words; people do. False Authority Fallacy. This seems to be a "go to fallacy" for you...Or just make up your own words that can't be found in any dictionary.
Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one doing this...You're just playing word games that mean nothing.
To help people properly understand Logic...Whats the point?
Redefinition Fallacy... Logic is not nonsense...There can be no rational discussion when you engage in that sort of nonsense.
Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one who doesn't want to... I have been ever ready to engage in one.Or perhaps you just don't want to engage in a rational discussion?
Logic is not "made up"... It simply is.Especially where you have to support your made up assertions with evidence.
Fallacies aren't "made up"; they simply are. One need only understand the axioms of logic and correctly apply them to avoid making fallacies... You seem to have issues doing that...
False Authority Fallacy. No book/website/etc. defines fallacies... Logic does.
Redefinition Fallacy. You are redefining the word logic to the word void.
Dictionaries don't coin words; people do. False Authority Fallacy. This seems to be a "go to fallacy" for you...
Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one doing this...
To help people properly understand Logic...
Redefinition Fallacy... Logic is not nonsense...
Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one who doesn't want to... I have been ever ready to engage in one.
Logic is not "made up"... It simply is.
Define "evidence"...
Complete and utter bollocks. It's completely irrational to just make up pretend logical fallacies that can't be found in any reference source. You might as well just repeat over and over again MyMadeUpThingaMajig fallacy! Or just make up your own words that can't be found in any dictionary. You're just playing word games that mean nothing.
Whats the point?
There can be no rational discussion when you engage in that sort of nonsense. Or perhaps you just don't want to engage in a rational discussion? Especially where you have to support your made up assertions with evidence.
More parroted nonsense from Into the Night's little sock-like buddy.
False authority fallacy. There are as many fallacies as there are ways to make errors in logic. There is no 'official list'.
Argument of the Stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy. Redefinition fallacy (logic->void).
Put your 'fallacy' away, we don't need to see you exposing yourself all the time.