Deegan said:The one issue I can't tolerate, it should be up to the owner, what next, no smoking in your own home?
Deegan said:The one issue I can't tolerate, it should be up to the owner, what next, no smoking in your own home?
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Banning smoking on company property is common. But Weyco in Michigan is banning workers from smoking altogether, even in the privacy of their homes.
Stinger said:Let the market place decide. If a private business owner wants to allow smoking then let him allow it, I won't go there if it bothers me nor will the 70% of the public which does not smoke.
More and more places do not allow it and I think more and more smokers are being shamed into not lighting up around non-smokers because they finally realize how intrusive it is.
As far as public places, yes ban it.
(An ex-smoker.)
gordontravels said:I think if the property is private and you aren't required to be there such as employment, meetings, making payments or any other required visit, then it is up to the private property owner as to whether they allow smoking.
If you have to go on private property to pay bills, attend required appointments, as an employee or doing required business, etc., then smoking should be banned.
gordontravels said:All public areas or buildings should have a smoking ban.
gordontravels said:Another poster points out that 7% of lung cancer is from second hand smoke. I don't know that this is true but I know the medical community believes it. Here's the stronger statistic. 50% of those that get lung cancer are dead within 5 years. Some much sooner. 50%.
vauge said:I am guessing this is for your state or city?
The state of California already has this - I have no issues for that state as it was VOTED on by the people.
Here in Dallas, there is a ban of ALL public places including bars and cigar shops. Somehow the major "proved" that she had gotten breast cancer from second hand smoke and it was never voted on but went into affect through council. This is flat out wrong. Let the people vote on it.
TJS0110 said:It's been recently announced that a bill may be past to stop smoking in public places. Certain places would be exempt, such as places that have less then 50 seats and places that make 80% of there income from alcohol sales. However bars that do not meet these requirements will not be allowed to set smoking areas, even if they want to. Infringing on rights or protecting our people?
MiamiFlorida said:I'm a smoker. Florida has a no-smoking law in public places. I don't have a problem with that. I never did smoke indoors when it was legal, and never did smoke at home.
It takes very little effort to step outside, it's good excercise, and your house and clothes don't reek of cigarettes. I must admit that once in a while I give in to temptation and smoke in my car.
I watched a piece last night by Peter Jennings about cigarettes, taped in the late 1990s. He made one very strong point:vauge said:I am guessing this is for your state or city?
The state of California already has this - I have no issues for that state as it was VOTED on by the people.
Here in Dallas, there is a ban of ALL public places including bars and cigar shops. Somehow the major "proved" that she had gotten breast cancer from second hand smoke and it was never voted on but went into affect through council. This is flat out wrong. Let the people vote on it.
26 X World Champs said:I watched a piece last night by Peter Jennings about cigarettes, taped in the late 1990s. He made one very strong point:
Cigarettes are the only consumer packaged goods sold in the USA that, when used as directed, cause cancer. Think about that?
I used to smoke and I know how evil nicotine is. I would avoid doing things I would have otherwise done so I could have a cigarette. That's messed up.
Why should people have to leave a bar to not be exposed to cancer? We have a complete indoor no smoking law here in NYC and it's great to go to bars and restaurants now, no more intrusions into peoples lives, we are not exposed to cancer. Let's also not forget that less than 30% of Americans smoke cigarettes.
Cigarettes are the only consumer packaged goods sold in the USA that, when used as directed, cause cancer. Think about that?
gordontravels said:Well watch out. I hear New Jersey is considering a law to outlaw smoking in your car. It isn't for your internal health but because they say it is distracting to the driver when the driver smokes. Now I don't know if it applies to the passenger but who knows.
I think it's a good idea though. And then if this works we can outlaw AM/FM Radios, cassette players and CD/mp3 players. Oh and don't forget that gas guage. That one really distracts. :duel
26 X World Champs said:Cigarettes are the only consumer packaged goods sold in the USA that, when used as directed, cause cancer. Think about that?
I used to smoke and I know how evil nicotine is. I would avoid doing things I would have otherwise done so I could have a cigarette. That's messed up.
Your argument might have merit, except for four words in your final sentence, "...make your own decisions..."alex said:A television can cause cancer. The computer screen you are looking into right now can cause cancer. It is known that animal products can cause arthritis. Should all these things be outlawed. To say that smoking should be banned in public places because of cancer risk is not an exclusive arguement.
Many packaged foods cause obesity. Should they be outlawed?
"...no more intrusions into peoples lives..."? Isn't it more intrusive to prevent someone from running their business they way they want? No one is being intrusive here except people who are imposing their will for non-smoking places on others. I am wondering if you chose the wrong word here.
You see "less than 30% of Americans smoke cigarettes." I see 30% of Americans who have rights.
What is wrong with the business deciding what is best for them? Your health is your responsibility and no one else. If you go to a place that allows smoking, you have the option to leave. Why do you need government babysitting to do everything for you? Be an adult and make your own decisions and allow others the same respect.
TJS0110 said:again they should just leave. That seams inconvenient but its there responsiblety to take care of themselves. I don't want peope getting cancer but still its your responsiblety to take care of yourself.
LaMidRighter said:The best argument(as far as laughs) that I have heard so far is that citizens don't have a stated right to smoke, this is overly simplified and I can turn it around, citizens also don't have a right to censure said act since tobacco is a legal product and to ban smoking on private property without a very good reason is actually more damaging to the concept of private property rights than the benefit it could possibly provide to the public.
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