No pride flags but Confederate and Nazi may be okay.

[Tigerace117]

Yes, they still live in your head and that of countless other Russians.

The U.S. government literally employed Klaus Barbie to fight communist guerrillas in Latin America.

Perhaps if you had any historical knowledge at all you wouldn’t be making such laughable claims so constantly.

 

[Bodecea]

I explained my reasoning. You choose to not address my explanation.




Are you pretending to not know that southern heritage and culture is celebrated by Southerns? Who tend to vote conservative and thus are a problem for a lefty like yourself?

That would be you using dishonesty to hide your agenda.



As I stated, you are ignoring the present of historical suffering at other, at ALL sites of historical or cultural importance, so that you can have a hissy fit about those that are useful to you to have a hissy fit over.


The bit where you ignore that I explain myself, and ask questions that address points I already covered, is a sign of your brain knowing that you and it is on the wrong side. FYI.

Ah, the Dukes of Hazard gambit....again.

 

[Bodecea]

Evil and human misery were "actively promoted" everywhere.

People died building the pyramids. They were not "free people" by our standards. Are we supposed to ignore the advances in human civilization that they represent?

You are having "outrage" over the plantations, so that you can smear your political enemies TODAY. And you can see that, by how you are selective in what historical suffering you have "outrage" over.

You don't seem to be aware that the pyramids were built by paid teams of farmers during the off season in lieu of taxes....in friendly competition teams (they've found carvings on stones in the pyramids to show that)...and an year round paid group of skilled artisans who lived in a mini-city at the base of the pyramids.

 

[beefheart]

No, like the swastika and which meaning it should have, "the meaning that has been around for 2500 years or the meaning from the 1940’s." You know, like what the person to whom I was responding said.

Too bad, Adolf appropriated it. It only has one meaning now.

 

[beefheart]

No, like the swastika and which meaning it should have, "the meaning that has been around for 2500 years or the meaning from the 1940’s." You know, like what the person to whom I was responding said.

Is this "Make the swastika great again?"

 

[Lovebug]

No pride flags but Confederate and Nazi may be okay.​

Well, this headline sounds worse than the law seems writ.

However this below is the response I posted on X to Mr. Lee of Utah the sponsor of the Bill.

​

You are right, what are they teaching?

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” Lee told the House committee, according to the Tribune. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

Lee later disputed that he said a Nazi flag could be displayed and claimed that his bill would not allow this in an interview with the Tribune.

“There is a difference between displaying flags in curriculum when you’re teaching on them,” he told the Tribune on Thursday. “You don’t censor history here.”

 

[Lovebug]

Different meanings for different folks. Which today different meanings has no place, everyone is expected to attach the same meaning. Perhaps intolerance to different meaning. The swastika if another prime example, for Buddhist it means one thing, to most others especially here in American it’s a symbol of Nazism. Which meaning should the swastika have? The meaning that has been around for 2500 years or the meaning from the 1940’s?

We should pay close attention to the one that caused most harm.

 

[Cosmo]

The U.S. government literally employed Klaus Barbie

One of the boogeymen you check for under the bed each night?

to fight communist guerrillas in Latin America.

Perhaps if you had any historical knowledge at all you wouldn’t be making such laughable claims so constantly.

It's possible that, once Nazi Germany fell, some of its former citizens worked with the West against Nazi Germany's surviving allies, like Russia.

Why would that be problematic?

 

[Tigerace117]

One of the boogeymen you check for under the bed each night?

It's possible that, once Nazi Germany fell, some of its former citizens worked with the West against Nazi Germany's surviving allies, like Russia.
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Why would that be problematic?

Gee, seeing as old Klaus was Lyon’s Gestapo chief agent, and directly complicit in the Holocaust, it takes a special kind of stupidity to start sobbing “but the Russians” to try and excuse the US protecting him.

You crying yourself to sleep over Russia kicking the Nazis’ asses remains hilarious, though.

 

[Lovebug]

I visited three different plantatlons in New Orleans last October. To each his own, but personally I would not be comfortable calebrating anything on their grounds, given the evil and human misery that took place there.

I had to visit a small MS town some 30 years ago. Lots of Plantations around. Whites there still crossed over to the other side of the road when they approached a person of color.
No, I didn't have a smartphone to record it, it is just what I know happened.
I also had a chance to visit a concentration camp once. I couldn't do it. I am still now sure why? I wanted to go but something within me stopped me from going.

 

[Cosmo]

Gee, seeing as old Klaus was Lyon’s Gestapo chief agent, and directly complicit in the Holocaust, it takes a special kind of stupidity to start sobbing “but the Russians” to try and excuse the US protecting him.

You crying yourself to sleep over Russia kicking the Nazis’ asses remains hilarious, though.

Russia is Nazi Germany's surviving World War II military ally still committing mass murder in Europe today. They are the vessel housing the surviving mass murdering spirit of Nazi Germany.


Klaus is an old, dead has-been. Look for him under your bed on your own.

 

[Tigerace117]

Russia is Nazi Germany's surviving World War II military ally still committing mass murder in Europe today. They are the vessel housing the surviving mass murdering spirit of Nazi Germany.
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Klaus is an old, dead has-been. Look for him under your bed on your own.

So close!

That’s actually the United States.


America will never getting over the Soviets crushing their Nazi heroes.

 

[Cosmo]

So close!

That’s actually the United States.
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America will never getting over the Soviets crushing their Nazi heroes.

So does Boogeyman Musk live under your bed, or in your head? What's the rent roll look like?

 

[Tigerace117]

So does Boogeyman Musk live under your bed, or in your head? What's the rent roll look like?

So, does having to face the fact America is run by Nazi fanboy oligarchs make you whine?

Or do you just sob over America’s desperate attempts to defend the CSA and apartheid?

 

[weaver2]

Utah law would allow for Confederate flags to be shown in schools but not Pride flag

A Utah Republican said the Nazi and Confederate flags could be displayed as part of schools’ curriculum

www.independent.co.uk

More fascism from the repukes.

It seems maximally self defeating to embrace Nazism, a political philosophy that lasted only 15 years and in those 15 years destroyed its people, its stability, its financial institutions, its industries, its historic buildings, its natural beauty, its independence and its soul. How does this appeal to anyone.

Are we so distant from WWII that these people have forgotten how it ended? Why support the politics that created a loser and not the policies that created the winners.

 

[Cosmo]

So, does having to face the fact America is run by Nazi fanboy oligarchs make you whine?

You're the one whining about him, having brought him up. I don't really give a shit what sort of fanboy he is. This is your hangup, not mine.

Or do you just sob over America’s desperate attempts to defend the CSA and apartheid?

Again, more random baggage you brought up. Sounds like some sort of Kremlin defense mechanism activated whenever their military alliance with Nazi Germany is mentioned.

Putin should have made it easier for his propagandists and gone with Reptilians in Kiev rather than Ukronazis when choosing the flavor for Russia's national mental illness, but I doubt the mentally addled, mediocre moron knows much history being the small-minded Soviet gopnik that he is.

 

[Tigerace117]

You're the one whining about him, having brought him up. I don't really give a shit what sort of fanboy he is. This is your hangup, not mine.

Again, more random baggage you brought up. Sounds like some sort of Kremlin defense mechanism activated whenever their military alliance with Nazi Germany is mentioned.

Putin should have made it easier for his propagandists and gone with Reptilians in Kiev rather than Ukronazis when choosing the flavor for Russia's national mental illness, but I doubt the mentally addled, mediocre moron knows much history being the small-time Soviet gopnik that he is.

Gee, that’s totally why you’ve got him as your profile picture. Riiiiight

Awww, I get America likes to lie about an imaginary “alliance” between the Nazis and the Soviets, but it can’t change the fact nothing of the sort ever existed.

Maybe if the Ukrainians didn’t open celebrate Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera as national heroes people wouldn’t call them out on it.

America screaming “slavery was a good thing” by waving those Confederate flags renders all that sputtering about Putin less than worthless.

 

[Cosmo]

Gee, that’s totally why you’ve got him as your profile picture. Riiiiight

Using your logic, that means you whine about tanks because one is in your profile picture? Lovebug whines about about birds and grass? What a bizarre belief system you have! Tell us more!

Awww, I get America likes to lie about an imaginary “alliance” between the Nazis and the Soviets, but it can’t change the fact nothing of the sort ever existed.

Oh yeah I'm sure all the pictures and videos, and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, are made up.

Maybe if the Ukrainians didn’t open celebrate Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera

Another one of your hangups?

as national heroes people wouldn’t call them out on it.

America screaming “slavery was a good thing” by waving those Confederate flags

And another one?

renders all that sputtering about Putin less than worthless.

How do your hangups about Stepan, Elon, and Confederate flags do that? Again, I'd love to hear about your bizarre belief system!

 

[Tigerace117]

Using your logic, that means you whine about tanks because one is in your profile picture? Lovebug whines about about birds and grass? What a bizarre belief system you have! Tell us more!

Oh yeah I'm sure all the pictures and videos, and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, are made up.
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Another one of your hangups?

And another one?

How do your hangups about Stepan, Elon, and Confederate flags do that? Again, I'd love to hear about your bizarre belief system!

Awww, more squealing because you can’t handle facing the fact America proudly protected all the Nazis they could!

But I agree, all that pathetic wailing you do over the Nazi oligarchs running the US being called out are totally worthless.

We’ve got plenty of pictures of Americans mourning the defeat of the Nazis from 1945 right up until the present screaming about how the fall of Jim Crow was “communism” and waving white supremacist flags.

Over, and over, and over again.

But I get it. The Russians humiliated your heroes when they crushed the Nazis,

They humiliated your hero Elon again when they helped bring down apartheid.

No wonder you squeal about them so much

 

[Cosmo]

Awww, more squealing because you can’t handle facing the fact America proudly protected all the Nazis they could!

But I agree, all that pathetic wailing you do over the Nazi oligarchs running the US being called out are totally worthless.

We’ve got plenty of pictures of Americans mourning the defeat of the Nazis from 1945 right up until the present screaming about how the fall of Jim Crow was “communism” and waving white supremacist flags.

Over, and over, and over again.

But I get it. The Russians humiliated your heroes when they crushed the Nazis,

They humiliated your hero Elon again when they helped bring down apartheid.

No wonder you squeal about them so much

Does it hurt you when I insult Putin?

 

[Tigerace117]

Does it hurt you when I insult Putin?

Does it hurt when I point out the fact your heroes are significantly worse than Putin ever could be, and all that squealing about is transparently obvious garbage meant to “excuse” atrocities?

 

[Cosmo]

Does it hurt when I point out the fact your heroes are significantly worse than Putin ever could be, and all that squealing about is transparently obvious garbage meant to “excuse” atrocities?

I guess that's a yes answer from you judging by the continued references to irrelevant baggage you carry around.

 

[Tigerace117]

I guess that's a yes answer from you judging by the continued references to irrelevant baggage you carry around.

Gee, I guess that must be a yes, since you are blubbering about Putin in a thread about America proudly celebrating slavery and the Nazis.

 

[Nickyjo]

Is that what I claimed? I just said it had nothing to do with fascism.

Not sure I understand. Of course one could display a flag, even the old Soviet one, without supporting fascism or communism.

 

[nota bene]

Is this "Make the swastika great again?"

No, more like you didn't bother to read the post(s) to which I was responding but wanted my attention for a little while.