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No pride flags but Confederate and Nazi may be okay.

As expected, the left doesn't care about the facts. Just cares about their latest bullshit pretext for melting down.
Ok, explain to us why the Nazi flag or Confederate flag could be shown as teaching tools, but a Pride flag should not.
 
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No pride flags but Confederate and Nazi may be okay.

Well, this headline sounds worse than the law seems writ.

However this below is the response I posted on X to Mr. Lee of Utah the sponsor of the Bill.

Nazi & Confederate flags stood for hate, anger, oppression, intolerance, and exclusion. I pray any display of them in a class lesson would be to highlight the evil behind those flags. A Pride Flag alongside a USA Flag in that lesson makes perfect sense.

 

No pride flags but Confederate and Nazi may be okay.

Well, this headline sounds worse than the law seems writ.

However this below is the response I posted on X to Mr. Lee of Utah the sponsor of the Bill.


I am with you on the Nazi characterization, but despite recent and well-justified sentiment against the Confederate flag, for many it was a quasi-nostalgic display of southern culture. Example: many years ago my nephew got married on a southern plantation to a southern gal with the guys in the wedding party, including the racially mixed guys, wearing Confederate uniforms, complete with stars and bars on their sleeves. (I was asked to speak at the wedding, wore a blue suit, and commented on the two colors.) There actually used to be a “Blue-Gray” college football bowl game some time ago. At first it wasn’t integrated, then it was, and I read that one of the greatest ever, Jerry Rice, participated. A friend, an ardent civil and human rights worker, taught Confederate history at a college, and had a flag displayed in his office. Those sorts of things obviously wouldn’t happen today.
 
I am with you on the Nazi characterization, but despite recent and well-justified sentiment against the Confederate flag, for many it was a quasi-nostalgic display of southern culture.
Perhaps for the uncultured of the South.
Example: many years ago my nephew got married on a southern plantation to a southern gal with the guys in the wedding party, including the racially mixed guys, wearing Confederate uniforms, complete with stars and bars on their sleeves.
Tacky and well, downright despicable.
(I was asked to speak at the wedding, wore a blue suit, and commented on the two colors.)
Yeah, that wouldn't have gone well if I had been asked to speak.
There actually used to be a “Blue-Gray” college football bowl game some time ago.
No doubt an inspiration of folk in the South who are still idiotically angry at the 'Northern War of Aggression' even though it was the traitorous Southerners that fired the first shots of the war.
At first it wasn’t integrated, then it was, and I read that one of the greatest ever, Jerry Rice, participated.
Yeah, small bad ideas are oft turned into even greater bad ideas and via 'tradition' seem to lose their bad idea reputation, like hazing.
A friend, an ardent civil and human rights worker, taught Confederate history at a college, and had a flag displayed in his office.
To what end?
To always have a static display teaching aid for students to relate to during lessons?
Then OK.
Those sorts of things obviously wouldn’t happen today.
Perhaps we are making some progress.
 
I am with you on the Nazi characterization, but despite recent and well-justified sentiment against the Confederate flag, for many it was a quasi-nostalgic display of southern culture. Example: many years ago my nephew got married on a southern plantation to a southern gal with the guys in the wedding party, including the racially mixed guys, wearing Confederate uniforms, complete with stars and bars on their sleeves. (I was asked to speak at the wedding, wore a blue suit, and commented on the two colors.) There actually used to be a “Blue-Gray” college football bowl game some time ago. At first it wasn’t integrated, then it was, and I read that one of the greatest ever, Jerry Rice, participated. A friend, an ardent civil and human rights worker, taught Confederate history at a college, and had a flag displayed in his office. Those sorts of things obviously wouldn’t happen today.
What most folks refer to as the confederate flag is actually the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. It wasn’t the flag of the confederacy. I remember the blue/grey game and also remember early TV shows like “The Rebel,” starring Nick Adams as the Rebel. Different times, different generations, different meanings for the flag from different folks.

I have a confederate flag passed down through generations, the battle flag that is. I don’t know how my great grandpa got it. But my grandpa took that flag to France during WWI, my dad had it in the Pacific during WWII, I had it in Vietnam and Laos. My grandson took it to Afghanistan when he was stationed there. Lots of history in that old flag. My grandson returned it to me when he retired from the army. It’s in a glass case today sitting on a closet shelf along with other mementos and awards. Probably all to be tossed in the trash once I die as the younger generations, these things are meaningless. Needless to say, I have a completely different meaning attached to that flag than most do today. Heck, in my generation, most had a different meaning. But flags, symbols can mean many different things to many different people. The swastika to Buddhist means wellbeing, good luck, good fortune and has for around 2500 years. It is what it is.
 
What most folks refer to as the confederate flag is actually the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. It wasn’t the flag of the confederacy. I remember the blue/grey game and also remember early TV shows like “The Rebel,” starring Nick Adams as the Rebel. Different times, different generations, different meanings for the flag from different folks.

I have a confederate flag passed down through generations, the battle flag that is. I don’t know how my great grandpa got it. But my grandpa took that flag to France during WWI, my dad had it in the Pacific during WWII, I had it in Vietnam and Laos. My grandson took it to Afghanistan when he was stationed there. Lots of history in that old flag. My grandson returned it to me when he retired from the army. It’s in a glass case today sitting on a closet shelf along with other mementos and awards. Probably all to be tossed in the trash once I die as the younger generations, these things are meaningless. Needless to say, I have a completely different meaning attached to that flag than most do today. Heck, in my generation, most had a different meaning. But flags, symbols can mean many different things to many different people. The swastika to Buddhist means wellbeing, good luck, good fortune and has for around 2500 years. It is what it is.

What a bizarre story. So much reverence for a symbol of white supremacy.
 
What most folks refer to as the confederate flag is actually the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. It wasn’t the flag of the confederacy. I remember the blue/grey game and also remember early TV shows like “The Rebel,” starring Nick Adams as the Rebel. Different times, different generations, different meanings for the flag from different folks.

I have a confederate flag passed down through generations, the battle flag that is. I don’t know how my great grandpa got it. But my grandpa took that flag to France during WWI, my dad had it in the Pacific during WWII, I had it in Vietnam and Laos. My grandson took it to Afghanistan when he was stationed there. Lots of history in that old flag. My grandson returned it to me when he retired from the army. It’s in a glass case today sitting on a closet shelf along with other mementos and awards. Probably all to be tossed in the trash once I die as the younger generations, these things are meaningless. Needless to say, I have a completely different meaning attached to that flag than most do today. Heck, in my generation, most had a different meaning. But flags, symbols can mean many different things to many different people. The swastika to Buddhist means wellbeing, good luck, good fortune and has for around 2500 years. It is what it is.

Lefties don't care about that. They see a chance to pretend racism and thus manufacture some "outrage", so, your family's generations of service, is just a price they are happy to pay.
 
I don't give it much thought. Why would I? It's a German workers' party that dissolved in 1945. Seems kind of irrelevant to 2025 current events. Save that shit for Solovyov Live!


Who it hurts? I'm doing fine! I'm not a liberal that talks about his "mental health" every other sentence.

Gone, but not forgotten.

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Confederate Battle Flag or the Southern Flag that flew over the Capitol at Richmond during the rebellion, it matters not, they were all flags of traitors to the Union who sought to destroy that Union in their treachery in order to preserve and expand the evil institution of Slavery.
 
What a bizarre story. So much reverence for a symbol of white supremacy.
Different meanings for different folks. Which today different meanings has no place, everyone is expected to attach the same meaning. Perhaps intolerance to different meaning. The swastika if another prime example, for Buddhist it means one thing, to most others especially here in American it’s a symbol of Nazism. Which meaning should the swastika have? The meaning that has been around for 2500 years or the meaning from the 1940’s?
 
I don't give it much thought. Why would I? It's a German workers' party that dissolved in 1945. Seems kind of irrelevant to 2025 current events. Save that shit for Solovyov Live!


Who it hurts? I'm doing fine! I'm not a liberal that talks about his "mental health" every other sentence.
Gee dude, in case you hadn’t noticed the Nazis didn’t simply vanish when the Soviets smashed their way into Berlin and crushed the Third Reich.
 
Example: many years ago my nephew got married on a southern plantation to a southern gal with the guys in the wedding party, including the racially mixed guys, wearing Confederate uniforms, complete with stars and bars on their sleeves.
I visited three different plantatlons in New Orleans last October. To each his own, but personally I would not be comfortable calebrating anything on their grounds, given the evil and human misery that took place there.
 
Perhaps for the uncultured of the South.

Tacky and well, downright despicable.
Hardly. We stayed in the plantation’s remodeled old slave cabins, the plantation had exhibits depicting the horrors of slavery, the bride’s family had some civil rights activism in its background, with, as I noted, mixed race family members. The family will meet in Alabama this year together with the family of descendants of one of the lawyers who defended Rosa Parks decades ago to commemorate her work.
Yeah, that wouldn't have gone well if I had been asked to speak.

No doubt an inspiration of folk in the South who are still idiotically angry at the 'Northern War of Aggression' even though it was the traitorous Southerners that fired the first shots of the war.

Yeah, small bad ideas are oft turned into even greater bad ideas and via 'tradition' seem to lose their bad idea reputation, like hazing.

To what end?
To always have a static display teaching aid for students to relate to during lessons?
Then OK.

Perhaps we are making some progress.
My point exactly.
What a bizarre story. So much reverence for a symbol of white supremacy.
As I said, I think that progress is measured as we increasingly realize what the horrors of slavery we’re all about, and how it’s flags and Confederate monuments are insults to our country. Next up, a greater teaching of the US’s history of lynching. I visited the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Alabama. It will break your heart. And finally, driving a steak through the heart of the notion that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

Another example from my own experience. Growing up a Dodger fan in Brooklyn, my childhood hero was Jackie Robinson, whom I worshipped for what he did for our country and how he played the game. (Don’t get me started on him, I still use 42 as part of some passwords.) My older sister, born in Queens, used to tease me as a rebel cause I was born in Baltimore. So I got a small stars and bars flag to spite her. I saw no contradiction there. I would now.
 
Lefties don't care about that. They see a chance to pretend racism and thus manufacture some "outrage", so, your family's generations of service, is just a price they are happy to pay.
Here’s my plan to counter the leftist phony outrage at, for example, statues of southern generals. We leave the statues there or put them back up, but on the pedestals or lawns surrounding them, we have plaques with the names of those Black persons lynched in that state. Everyone wins.
 
I visited three different plantatlons in New Orleans last October. To each his own, but personally I would not be comfortable calebrating anything on their grounds, given the evil and human misery that took place there.


Evil and human misery is/was everywhere.

I visited a plantation in Virginia, two actually. It was interesting to see how the place was hacked out of wilderness basicall with hand tools and skill and hard work.

I felt bad for the musicians that had to play up in that little platform on the top of the place. I forget what it is called.
 
Lefties don't care about that. They see a chance to pretend racism and thus manufacture some "outrage", so, your family's generations of service, is just a price they are happy to pay.
Bullshit. The Confederate flag is used by many to support racism and intimidation. Even today.
 
Evil and human misery is/was everywhere.

I visited a plantation in Virginia, two actually. It was interesting to see how the place was hacked out of wilderness basicall with hand tools and skill and hard work.

I felt bad for the musicians that had to play up in that little platform on the top of the place. I forget what it is called.
Evil and human misery were actively promoted and perpetrated on the grounds of plantations. IMO they are not a place to celebrate things like weddings, any more than celebrating birthdays at Soviet gulags or christenings in execution chambers.
 
Name a school actually flying a Nazi flag.

Because the 1st Amendment let's you wear a swastika T-shirt but I've never seen anyone actually wear one myself 🤷
That's a good thing. Singling out the pride flag is not. Be an interesting test if the pride flag was worn in school. Stupid law by Christian fascists against the LGBTQ community. Bigotry, that's all this is.
 
Bullshit. The Confederate flag is used by many to support racism and intimidation. Even today.

No, it's not. This country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for racial minorities since the mid 60s. The idea that there is a sizable or significant population of white racists is just false.

YOur claim makes no sense.
 
I don't give it much thought. Why would I? It's a German workers' party that dissolved in 1945. Seems kind of irrelevant to 2025 current events. Save that shit for Solovyov Live!


Who it hurts? I'm doing fine! I'm not a liberal that talks about his "mental health" every other sentence.
You think NAZIs "dissolved"? Suuuuuure. 🤭 🤭 :poop:
 
No, it's not. This country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for racial minorities since the mid 60s. The idea that there is a sizable or significant population of white racists is just false.

YOur claim makes no sense.
77 million is a sizable or significant population.
 
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