No mask if social distancing

[uptower]

 

[Simpletruther]

And; in all but one case the WHO recomends wearing a mask.

Well no. There is more than one.

But one of those is, like I have said all along, is when social distancing is possible, in that case, no mask recommendation.

 

[Simpletruther]

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Now apply that to yourself.

 

[uptower]

Now apply that to yourself.

Generally speaking a Venn diagram needs at least two groups...oh forget it.

Masks, social distancing and sound medical advice should not be a political issue - that's the poi...oh forget it.

 

[Simpletruther]

Generally speaking a Venn diagram needs at least two groups...oh forget it.

Masks, social distancing and sound medical advice should not be a political issue - that's the poi...oh forget it.

I agree.

 

[Lursa]

But yet thst is exactly what the WHO recommendations say. When it’s possible, no need to wear a mask.

And of course it isn’t just possible, it is actually done most every moment I have been in Walmart and other places lately.


You are arguing with the WHO wording, not me.

Yeah...in your car, in a park, when there are no people in close vicinity...mask isnt necessary.

How are you not embarrassed not to get this, so many months in?

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Lursa]

Well no. There is more than one.

But one of those is, like I have said all along, is when social distancing is possible, in that case, no mask recommendation.

I gave some pretty clear examples where you cant 'depend on' social distancing. Where you cant control other people, or diminished spaces or lines or kids or...a million other things. :roll:

And yet, according to you, YOU should get it because of course the WHO thought of this already :doh

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Irwin Corey]

Well no. There is more than one.

But one of those is, like I have said all along, is when social distancing is possible, in that case, no mask recommendation.

Not really:

Table 1. Type of mask for use by health workers depending on transmission scenario, setting and activity*
who
Personnel (working in health care facilities but not providing care for patients, e.g. administrative staff)

setting
Health care facility (including primary,secondary, tertiary care levels, outpatient care, and LTCF)

activity No routine activities in patient areas

what type of mask*
Medical mask not needed. Medical mask should be considered only if in contact or within 1m of patients, or according to local risk assessment.

So if you're somebody that has a private office you don't need to wear a mask while you're in your office. Which, btw, this report AbsaByGodLutely IS primairly for health care workers protecting themselves from contracting the virus. The other case is for a "Comunity outreach worker", the only instance that says "no mask needed". Nobody's arguing that if your out and about in the open air you should wear a mask, but IF you might be going to be in close contact with others Wear the ****ing MASK! It WILL SAVE LIVES!

 

[Court Jester]

So sure, if you are in the middle of the woods and not around people, you can avoid the mask, but not out in public and around people

Cloth and paper masks will not prevent the spread given proximity and extended time near an infected person. These masks are just basically in case someone sneezes on you. If everyone were wearing a mask including a single infected person, and then they all got on a 4 hour bus ride someplace sharing the same air, you could expect there would be spread to at least the people nearest the infected person---even with masks.


Masks are actually the cause of spread right now. People thinking they help and then not isolating or social distancing.

 

[Irwin Corey]

cloth and paper masks will not prevent the spread given proximity and extended time near an infected person. These masks are just basically in case someone sneezes on you. If everyone were wearing a mask including a single infected person, and then they all got on a 4 hour bus ride someplace sharing the same air, you could expect there would be spread to at least the people nearest the infected person---even with masks.


Masks are actually the cause of spread right now. People thinking they help and then not isolating or social distancing.

in a study of mandatory mask policies in 15 states and washington, d.c., researchers found that infection rates were lower compared to states that didn't mandate masks, with as many as 450,000 people spared covid-19 infections. In countries where wearing masks was policy or a cultural norm, deaths were lower compared to countries with neither.

A new england journal of medicine study demonstrates how masks stop oral and aerosolized droplets dispersed when people speak normally. One study emphasizes the value of mask-wearing in reducing transmission of covid-19 to other people, especially from people with no symptoms, who account for as many of half of all people with covid-19. With the abundance of evidence in favor of masks, the cdc is wholeheartedly urging americans to wear masks now.

Now, the scientific consensus tells us that masks can save lives. Together with staying at least 6 feet apart from one another and diligent hand-washing, masks are a cheap, effective way to reduce the spread of covid-19, especially when in indoor spaces and when social distancing isn't possible.

the one thing we can all do easily, with little cost, minimal discomfort and no disruption to our daily lives, is to listen to the science and wear a mask.

COVID-19 mask guidance in America has evolved — but rejecting science isn't the answer

just do it!

 

[snakestretcher]

i just don't understand zealots that post like this

It's simple. 'FREEDOM!'. These idiots believe that being told in no uncertain terms to use common ****ing sense (a concept clearly unknown to them), is an affront to their 'liberty' and an imaginary violation of their 'rights'. Are there enough Darwin awards left to hand out?

 

[AlphaOmega]

To the extent that they screwed up the same guidelines that everyone else was supposed to follow, yes of course.
The problem is, no one wants to get in between the First Amendment, so these people, fools and forthright alike, were "on their honor" and, yes unfortunately some of them threw caution to the wind.

What else does anyone expect? Perfection? Do you honestly think I see the protesters as perfect little angels?
Stop being a jerk, of course I don't.
Thing is, a good many of the protesters said right at the get go that they recognized the risks and were going to go protest anyway.

But that's not really what YOU want.
You just want me (and everyone else) to DENOUNCE the protesters.
Yeah sure, do I get to play gotcha in return when a MAGA Covidiot gets in people's faces and coughs at them?
The difference is, I don't have the emotional maturity of a seven year old so I don't need you to "denounce" them.
They already denounce themselves.

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Do you have any other parlor tricks better than Tu Quoque?

Yes that is exactly what I want. I want you to either denounce protesters (all of you, media included) or admit you are hypocrites.

 

[snakestretcher]

Yes that is exactly what I want. I want you to either denounce protesters (all of you, media included) or admit you are hypocrites.

Why, would it help?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Why, would it help?

Why wouldnt it. If people forming massive crowds were villified like someone who doesnt want to wear a mask maybe we would see less crowds and therefore less spread of the disease. Or is the disease just hype bull****?
Based on leftist response such as yourself we can easily demonstrate it is bull****. The typical leftist wants you to wear a mask while ordering a cup of coffee and will cite the dangers of spreading covid, then when darkness falls that same lefty has no problem burning that coffee shop down with 200 of his rioting friends.

 

[snakestretcher]

Why wouldnt it. If people forming massive crowds were villified like someone who doesnt want to wear a mask maybe we would see less crowds and therefore less spread of the disease. Or is the disease just hype bull****?
Based on leftist response such as yourself we can easily demonstrate it is bull****. The typical leftist wants you to wear a mask while ordering a cup of coffee and will cite the dangers of spreading covid, then when darkness falls that same lefty has no problem burning that coffee shop down with 200 of his rioting friends.

Tell that to the idiots crowding Trump's rallies unmasked and with no social distancing. Or is it only democrats and 'leftists' who spread the disease in your opinion? Have a word with yourself mate, and quit treating a global pandemic like a political tennis match. That's the reason why your rates of infection and death are so embarrassingly high, because irresponsible idiots think a temporary and mild inconvenience, wearing masks, is an affront to their 'rights' and a 'violation' of the constitution or some such nonsense, so they happily go around spreading disease because 'freedom!'. How unbelievably pathetic is that? Good luck, you need it.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Tell that to the idiots crowding Trump's rallies unmasked and with no social distancing. Or is it only democrats and 'leftists' who spread the disease in your opinion? Have a word with yourself mate, and quit using a global pandemic like a political tennis match.

So which is it. If Trump rallies spread covid then so do leftist protests and riots.
So do crowds spread covid or not? Apparently you believe they do correct? If thats true then why are you and your ilk flat out refusing to call out leftist protesters and rioters as disease spreaders?

 

[snakestretcher]

So which is it. If Trump rallies spread covid then so do leftist protests and riots.
So do crowds spread covid or not? Apparently you believe they do correct? If thats true then why are you and your ilk flat out refusing to call out leftist protesters and rioters as disease spreaders?

Yes, of course crowds spread the disease, but according to you it's only 'leftists' doing so. Why do you never criticise your fellow conservatives for doing the same, or did I miss your denouncement? I have never shied away from condemning anyone acting dangerously irresponsibly during this pandemic. What about you?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Yes, of course crowds spread the disease, but according to you it's only 'leftists' doing so. Why do you never criticise your fellow conservatives for doing the same, or did I miss your denouncement? I have never shied away from condemning anyone acting dangerously irresponsibly during this pandemic. What about you?

oh no...if what they say is true then all crowds are bad. When will you lefties be demanding the rioters and protesters be stopped and fined and their utilities turned off?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Yes that is exactly what I want. I want you to either denounce protesters (all of you, media included) or admit you are hypocrites.

Why is it binary with you?
Are you another DP-er who uses this place as the monkey house in the zoo?
Why is it important for you to fling your feces?
Are you incapable of actually debating or are you scared someone might make sense and it's not just to pimp your confirmation bias?

I think that no matter what anyone says to you, if they're not a Trumper, you won't believe them anyway.
You NEED to have all those people hugging violence so your narrative doesn't sound like a retarded cult script.
You NEED us there, so you don't sound like Jim Jones or Marshall Applewhite.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

So which is it. If Trump rallies spread covid then so do leftist protests and riots.
So do crowds spread covid or not? Apparently you believe they do correct? If thats true then why are you and your ilk flat out refusing to call out leftist protesters and rioters as disease spreaders?

Which group is wearing masks or doesn't that count because of your CT issues?
Have you licked any handrails to prove that masks are a hoax?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

oh no...if what they say is true then all crowds are bad. When will you lefties be demanding the rioters and protesters be stopped and fined and their utilities turned off?

Why are masks not effective?
Oh I get the feeling that just arresting them and shutting off the electricity for their family isn't good enough for you.



The anger and hatred in your posts is palpable.
You won't be satisfied with just fines and arrests, oh no...

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

oh no...if what they say is true then all crowds are bad. When will you lefties be demanding the rioters and protesters be stopped and fined and their utilities turned off?

When will you be condemning the 250 thousand bikers at Sturgis?
The head of Bikers for Trump seems to think the COVID pandemic is a leftist plot.



Do you agree with him?

If so, why aren't you cheering him on and if not, why aren't you condemning him?
PS: The head of the Minneapolis Police union is also a member of Bikers for Trump.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

What has been proven is YOU, with this thread have proven YOU are a manipulator of facts.

Compared to Jack Hays he's a rank amateur.

 

[Simpletruther]

Not really:



So if you're somebody that has a private office you don't need to wear a mask while you're in your office. Which, btw, this report AbsaByGodLutely IS primairly for health care workers protecting themselves from contracting the virus. The other case is for a "Comunity outreach worker", the only instance that says "no mask needed". Nobody's arguing that if your out and about in the open air you should wear a mask, but IF you might be going to be in close contact with others Wear the ****ing MASK! It WILL SAVE LIVES!

Only thst isn’t what it says for the general public, as I have directly quoted several times. It clearly says, for the general public in situations where social distancing is possible, no mask is recommended.


I haven’t a single time denied that health care workers should wear masks.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Why is it binary with you?
Are you another DP-er who uses this place as the monkey house in the zoo?
Why is it important for you to fling your feces?
Are you incapable of actually debating or are you scared someone might make sense and it's not just to pimp your confirmation bias?

I think that no matter what anyone says to you, if they're not a Trumper, you won't believe them anyway.
You NEED to have all those people hugging violence so your narrative doesn't sound like a retarded cult script.
You NEED us there, so you don't sound like Jim Jones or Marshall Applewhite.

Lets debate why a crowd of 50 at a home is different than a crowd of 50 rioters. Tell us what science makes leftist crowd not contagious.