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Newly Unearthed Emails Show Trump Attorneys Coordinating Fake Electors

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I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
 
I hope the selfish corrupt traitor and all the anti-American cowards who aided him pay the price for this lawlessness and are held fully accountable. American trash....enemy within.
 
I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
That last paragraph perfectly sums up the Trump pathology.
 
All eyes on Chesebro and if he cooperates/flips.

I'd like to see that claim of immunity for those two verified outside of twitter.

I noticed in the article that "....the two discussed the procedures needed under state law to cast the electoral votes, with DeGraffenreid writing that “facts and legalities don’t matter – only what you can burn someone with.” We'd also need the context of this statement.

Of course, it's likely that Chesebro was operating at Trump's instruction because in Trumpworld, Trump's finger is in very pie. Proving that connection exposes Trump to 18 U.S.C. § 371 -- Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States. Five years prison max.
 
I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
What!!?? The Trump campaign orchestrating efforts to overturn the results of the election!!?? Inconceivable.
 
I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
I'm really interested in seeing all of the evidence for this because we heard about what allegedly happened, but the paper trail will be really fascinating. The call made to Raffensperger was already pretty bad, but emails telling people how to become fake electors will provide some insight into that broader goal of trying to deny the democratic process.
 
Why would these people not flip? Trump doesn't care one iota about them. He will sell them out in a heartbeat. These people have to protect themselves.
My understanding is the immunity wasn't offered and accepted it was stipulated by Smith. This way they cannot take the 5th. So it doesn't sound as if their cooperation is willful but rather forced.
 
I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
Can you trust those emails? The democrats don't seem to believe all the text and emails on Hunters laptop that incriminate him and his father of extortion and betraying this nation!
 
I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
I'm going to be very disappointed if Chesebro's name isn't on the insurrection indictment about to come down soon! The two stooges he was coaching have been given partial immunity for flipping, I don't see the need for Smith to offer him anything!
 
Or as those in the party of personal responsibility would say, "it's an FBI black flag deep state move".
The FBI, the DOJ, the courts, the State governments, the Deep State, and the Swamp are all corrupt and going after Trump because he's the one true President and the only man who can save America.
 
From the OP
While filling out a document proclaiming yourself an elector for a losing candidate is not a crime, lying to the federal government — or presenting a document to federal agencies or Congress saying that you are an elector — is.

Has anyone else seen all the objections that it was perfectly legal?

NYT
"We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a Phoenix-based lawyer who helped organize the pro-Trump electors in Arizona, wrote in a Dec. 8, 2020, email to Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser for the Trump campaign."

 
The spin from the usual suspects is going to be interesting.
 
Can you trust those emails? The democrats don't seem to believe all the text and emails on Hunters laptop that incriminate him and his father of extortion and betraying this nation!
You asking if I trust those emails that have been cooberated by the witnesses/recipients that are now cooperating with investigators... all because you said something, something, something Hunter Biden?

Such a brilliant deflection you've worked up there. Stupendous in fact.
 
I think the kraken lady is about to feel some heat.


Faced with loss in the 2020 election, Trump campaign attorneys built an elaborate mind palace in which the former president could steal victory from the jaws of defeat.

The problem was, building that universe required persuading real people to lie — not in the imaginary world where Trump reversed his loss, but in the actual world where lying has consequences.
And.....................? Discussing options is now a crime?
 
Can you trust those emails? The democrats don't seem to believe all the text and emails on Hunters laptop that incriminate him and his father of extortion and betraying this nation!


Wow.

15 posts before a "what about Hunter" post?

Yawn.

get a new act. Song and dance don't make it anymore, you need electric guitars and drums and a thing called 'substance'

Every time I see a hat about Hunter post I am more convinced Trump is a criminal since no one ever DENIES anything he says and does, merely point to the boogie man Hunter and expect the mindless the lurch in line.

What's really sickening is how ****ing lame it is!

You remind me of a three year old. Who broke the window?" "somebody".
 
Wow.

15 posts before a "what about Hunter" post?

Yawn.

get a new act. Song and dance don't make it anymore, you need electric guitars and drums and a thing called 'substance'

Every time I see a hat about Hunter post I am more convinced Trump is a criminal since no one ever DENIES anything he says and does, merely point to the boogie man Hunter and expect the mindless the lurch in line.

What's really sickening is how ****ing lame it is!

You remind me of a three year old. Who broke the window?" "somebody".
Discussing potential options is now a crime in your mind?
 
I'm going to be very disappointed if Chesebro's name isn't on the insurrection indictment about to come down soon! The two stooges he was coaching have been given partial immunity for flipping, I don't see the need for Smith to offer him anything!
He's got serious legal exposure hanging over his head. They could negotiate a guilty plea on lesser charges if he agrees to testify about who was directing the scheme.
 
My understanding is the immunity wasn't offered and accepted it was stipulated by Smith. This way they cannot take the 5th. So it doesn't sound as if their cooperation is willful but rather forced.
Legally forced.
 
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