Newly uncovered bombshell: Crowdstrike had no solid evidence Russians hacked the DNC computers

[marke]

Not only do we know the Russians did it but we even know the names of the GRU agents involved. They were indicted by Mueller who had overwhelming evidence to convict them if they showed up to court.

You say the Russians did it and yet you don't even know what the Russians are supposed to have done. CrowdStrike admitted under oath that they could not even irrefutably prove the emails had been hacked. Obama admitted in his last speech that the claims made by Clapper and others that the Russians had hacked the DNC computers was not a proven fact. Mueller admitted he had no idea how the emails got from the DNC computers into Julian Assange's hand, and the FBI and NSA, it now turns out, have evidence that has been hidden that Seth Rich may have been involved in the release of the information to Wikileaks.

So, when you say "we know" you should admit that you are only specaking for yourself and those who blindly believe liars like Schiff and thousands of democrat propagandists who have no more interest in sticking with the truth than fish have a desire to move from the sea in winter to hibernate in dens with bears.

 

[eohrnberger]

Now we find out what democrat insiders have known for years. The original claim attributed to Crowdstrike and rubber stamped by democrats in Obama administration and the leftist media that Russians stole the emails that ended up in Assange's hands was never backed by solid evidence of any kind.

Declassified transcripts: CrowdStrike couldn't say for sure Russians stole DNC emails | Just The News

Part of the force 'Russian Collusion' hoax narrative from the Democrats and the media (same thing anymore really). Color me unsurprised in the least. :roll:

 

[eohrnberger]

Like we've been saying from the start, Democrats pulled the whole Russia hoax out of their posteriors.

Politics Uber Alles.

'Never let a crisis go to waste'
'By any means necessary'
“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision,”
House Democrats eyeing much broader Phase 3 stimulus | TheHill

Not to mention criminality, malfeasance, malevolence, civil liberties violations, damage to the nation, etc. etc.

Operating values of the Democrat party. I disagree with them.

 

[marke]

And this is what this post is about? You are really losing it. The FBI verified what Crowdstrike said and so did Mueller. They all examined the same image of the DNC servers.

MR. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the
Russian Government.And our analysts that looked at it that had looked at these
types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different
environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were
moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being
targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with
Russian intelligence

You are missing a dump truck load of facts here, so let me fill in a few blanks.
1. Mr. Henry said he was contacted by Perkins Coie on Apr 30, 2016 about the hacking problem their client was having.
2. Mr. Henry said the FBI had been in contact with another DNC contractor for months and had been talking with that other DNC contractor about possible hacking of the DNC computers.
3. Mr. Henry never talked with the other contractor. He had no idea whether the other contractor had informed the DNC of the information the FBI had been feeding him for months about the hacking which took place before CrowdStrike got involved.
4. Mr. Henry worked for Perkins Coie, not for the DNC and not for the FBI.
5. Mr. Henry could not offer any explanation for why Perkins Coie was handling the criminal investigation instead of the FBI.
6. Perkins Coie was not talking, citing attorney-client privileges.

That, in a nutshell is the backdrop. In my next post I am going to drop the bombshell everyone is overlooking.

 

[marke]

You are missing a dump truck load of facts here, so let me fill in a few blanks.
1. Mr. Henry said he was contacted by Perkins Coie on Apr 30, 2016 about the hacking problem their client was having.
2. Mr. Henry said the FBI had been in contact with another DNC contractor for months and had been talking with that other DNC contractor about possible hacking of the DNC computers.
3. Mr. Henry never talked with the other contractor. He had no idea whether the other contractor had informed the DNC of the information the FBI had been feeding him for months about the hacking which took place before CrowdStrike got involved.
4. Mr. Henry worked for Perkins Coie, not for the DNC and not for the FBI.
5. Mr. Henry could not offer any explanation for why Perkins Coie was handling the criminal investigation instead of the FBI.
6. Perkins Coie was not talking, citing attorney-client privileges.

That, in a nutshell is the backdrop. In my next post I am going to drop the bombshell everyone is overlooking.

Here is more testimony from the House hearing:

Mr. Stewart: Okay. So at the end of the 6 weeks, you've concluded your work or close to it?

Mr. Henry: To be clear, our goal, my goal was to protect the client. We were hired to protect the client. We identified an adversary there. The goal was to make sure that the adversary was removed and the client had a clean environment with which to work.

Mr. Stewart: And at the end of that period, you feel you'd been able to accomplish that?

Mr. Henry: At the end of June, June 12, when we did the remediation event, yes. ...

Mission accomplished? Did CrowdStrike prove itself worthy of the task they were hired to do? Can they be trusted to stop hacking? Apparently not, considering the massive theft of the DNC emails which blew the secrets of the DNC wide out into the open did not take place until July 5, more than 3 weeks after CrowdStrike "secured" the clients servers from hacking, and five days before Seth Rich was murdered.

Did I mention that Seth Rich was a DNC staffer at the time, a Bernie supporter with some evidence of dislike for Hillary, and that the FBI and the NSA have records of communications between Seth Rich and Julian Assange in the weeks leading up to July 10, the day of his death?

 

[marke]

You're still not answering the question. Why did you change the claim in your thread title?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you explain?

 

[JustHanging]

The crime is shocking. The growing mountain of evidence is shocking. The deliberate rejection of truth, knowledge, facts and details by those who refuse to believe anything negative about democrats is unbelievable.

Of course it's shocking. But we both know the Hillary and Obama are Lizard people, so they'll get away with it. Bastard Lizard People!!!

 

[Moot]

No, the democrat operatives CrowdStrike and Fusion GPS did not work together. They were both hired by the Trump-hating law firm Perkins-Coie to help Hillary in the 2016 election. Yes, Trump will benefit from the fake collusion and fake hacking lies of those Trump-hating actors whose dirty secret deeds are now being exposed as formerly hidden government records are being released over democrat objections.

Yes, Trump did benefit...a fact it seems that even you can't deny.

Newly recovered bombshell: The same day that Trump asked Russia to find Clinton's emails...the Russians targeted her accounts. Coincidence? I think not.

Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around the same day, Russians targeted her accounts | PBS NewsHour


So much winning...but you think it's all fake? Trump wins but you think he's a victim. That's not logical, marke.

 

[marke]

Of course it's shocking. But we both know the Hillary and Obama are Lizard people, so they'll get away with it. Bastard Lizard People!!!

Is that image from a movie? How about this image? Is it from a movie? Planet of the Apes 3?

 

[tres borrachos]

I support all investigations into Seth Rich's murder, whether Barr is involved or not. What possible harm cpould come from continuing to investigat a famous unsolved murder where no motive has been established and no suspect has been named?

So you want an investigation, then you don't, then you do.

The Department of Justice has to investigate. You do know who is the head of the DOJ right? It's Bill Barr, So when I told you to tell Barr to investigate, you said you wouldn't presume to tell him his job.

So make up your mind.

 

[marke]

Yes, Trump did benefit...a fact it seems that even you can't deny.

Newly recovered bombshell: The same day that Trump asked Russia to find Clinton's emails...the Russians targeted her accounts. Coincidence? I think not.

Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around the same day, Russians targeted her accounts | PBS NewsHour


So much winning...but you think it's all fake? Trump wins but you think he's a victim. That's not logical, marke.

Trump was taunting democrats and their leftist dogs by suggesting in public that if Russia was hacking the DNC and stealing emails then they could possibly produce the emails Hillary had destroyed rather than turn them over to Congress as was required by federal law. Nevertheless, CrowdStrike was questioned about the Russian hacking and Mr. Henry never said anything about some supposed hacking in the last week of July 2016. In fact, he said he had finished installing protections against hacking on June 12 of 2016. I can understand why he would say nothing about hacking in July that allegedly occurred 6 weeks after he had supposedly installed expert protections against hacking.

But where did this July 17 date come from? Russia hacked the DNC just days after Trump's speech? Who made up that crap? What some leading democrats know and I believe CrowdStrike knows but is not talking about is the fact that 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC server around 6M Eastern on July 5, 2026, just 5 days before Seth Rich's murder, in a transfer to a storage device which took just 87 seconds to download. They know that was the date and time from the time stamps on the emails themselves. That was the bulk of what was released by Wikileaks before the Nov 2016 election.



A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack | The Nation

 

[marke]

So you want an investigation, then you don't, then you do.

The Department of Justice has to investigate. You do know who is the head of the DOJ right? It's Bill Barr, So when I told you to tell Barr to investigate, you said you wouldn't presume to tell him his job.

So make up your mind.

I think hundreds of reporters should have begun investigating the Rich murder as soon as it happened, but they didn't? Why not? Because democrats made it known they did not want anyone looking into the suspicious assassination.

 

[tres borrachos]

I think hundreds of reporters should have begun investigating the Rich murder as soon as it happened, but they didn't? Why not? Because democrats made it known they did not want anyone looking into the suspicious assassination.

Reporters are not the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice has jurisdiction over murder, not reporters. You may want to pull out the Cliff's Notes version of the Constitution to understand how that works.

 

[marke]

Reporters are not the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice has jurisdiction over murder, not reporters. You may want to pull out the Cliff's Notes version of the Constitution to understand how that works.

Let the Department of Justice investigate and let private investigators investigate and let investigative reporters investigate. Why all the efforts to stop multiple investigations into the suspicious unsolved murder?

 

[tres borrachos]

Let the Department of Justice investigate and let private investigators investigate and let investigative reporters investigate. Why all the efforts to stop multiple investigations into the suspicious unsolved murder?

Reporters don't exist to investigate murder. Good grief. Did you lean civics while studying at Trump University?

 

[cabse5]

If you can't trust American Truth Today, who can you trust?

Mebe you can trust Mueller because Mueller said the same thing in his report of his investigation that the Mueller investigation based their assumptions that Russia hacked the DNC emails from the Crowdstrike report on the server(s) which contained the DNC emails.Mueller Report: Special Counsel Didn't Examine DNC Servers -- Based on FBI Investigation that Didn't Examine DNC Servers You probably don't believe Breitbart, either.:lamo

WASHINGTON — In his extensive report, Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller notes that his investigative team did not “obtain or examine” the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in determining whether those servers were hacked by Russia.

Instead, Mueller’s assessment of the DNC’s allegedly hacked servers relied upon the investigations conducted by the FBI and other agencies. “The Office understands that the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the states have separately investigated that activity,” reads Mueller’s report.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Mebe you can trust Mueller because Mueller said the same thing in his report of his investigation that the Mueller investigation based their assumptions that Russia hacked the DNC emails from the Crowdstrike report on the server(s) which contained the DNC emails.

Where in the Mueller Report does it say that?

Page number and direct citation Please

 

[cabse5]

Crowdstrike wasn't the only cybersecurity firm to analyze and issue a report on the DNC's server...

Findings from Analysis of DNC Intrusion Malware | Fidelis Cybersecurity


https://www.fireeye.com/content/dam...st-senate-intel-committee-russia-election.pdf​

The RNC also used Crowdstrike...

Republicans hired the same cybersecurity firm as the hacked DNC, but it's not clear that was a bad idea​

Mueller solely used the findings of Crowdstrike to report that that Russia hacked the DNC emails...So did the FBI solely use the findings of Crowdstrike to investigate the hacking of DNC emails by Russia.

Side note:The fact that Crowdstrike also used the RNC or that in another post in this thread that Crowdstrike was hired by the same firm that hired the principles for the Steele dossier means nothing in particular.

 

[cabse5]

Where in the Mueller Report does it say that?

Page number and direct citation Please

Per the same Breitbart reportMueller Report: Special Counsel Didn't Examine DNC Servers -- Based on FBI Investigation that Didn't Examine DNC Servers

While the investigation <Mueller investigation> identified evidence that the GRU targeted these individuals and entities, the Office did not investigate further. The Office did not, for instance, obtain or examine servers or other relevant items belonging to these victims. The Office understands that the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the states have separately investigated that activity.

And the FBI investigated that activity by perusing the Crowdstrike Report on the server(s) in question.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Per the same Breitbart reportMueller Report: Special Counsel Didn't Examine DNC Servers -- Based on FBI Investigation that Didn't Examine DNC Servers

While the investigation <Mueller investigation> identified evidence that the GRU targeted these individuals and entities, the Office did not investigate further. The Office did not, for instance, obtain or examine servers or other relevant items belonging to these victims. The Office understands that the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the states have separately investigated that activity.

This is the Mueller Report

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf


Cite that.

 

[marke]

Reporters are not the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice has jurisdiction over murder, not reporters. You may want to pull out the Cliff's Notes version of the Constitution to understand how that works.

I don't blame you for not knowing reporters are supposed to do investigations. I realize that is not something liberals have done in a long time. Nevertheless, here is what they are supposed to be doing:

Investigative journalism is a form of journalism in which reporters deeply investigate a single topic of interest, such as serious crimes, political corruption, or corporate wrongdoing. An investigative journalist may spend months or years researching and preparing a report. Practitioners sometimes use the terms "watchdog reporting" or "accountability reporting".

Investigative journalism - Wikipedia

 

[marke]

Mebe you can trust Mueller because Mueller said the same thing in his report of his investigation that the Mueller investigation based their assumptions that Russia hacked the DNC emails from the Crowdstrike report on the server(s) which contained the DNC emails.Mueller Report: Special Counsel Didn't Examine DNC Servers -- Based on FBI Investigation that Didn't Examine DNC Servers You probably don't believe Breitbart, either.:lamo

WASHINGTON — In his extensive report, Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller notes that his investigative team did not “obtain or examine” the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in determining whether those servers were hacked by Russia.

Instead, Mueller’s assessment of the DNC’s allegedly hacked servers relied upon the investigations conducted by the FBI and other agencies. “The Office understands that the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the states have separately investigated that activity,” reads Mueller’s report.

Ironically, Mr. Henry of CrowdStrike testified that the FBI strangely did not take the leading role in the hacking crime, although the FBI had been the first to notify a DNC contractor of the hacking that had been going on for months. Mr. Henry could not offer a guess as to why the FBI failed to take the lead in investigating the crime but totally yielded all investigative interests to CrowdStrike.

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't blame you for not knowing reporters are supposed to do investigations. I realize that is not something liberals have done in a long time. Nevertheless, here is what they are supposed to be doing:

Investigative journalism is a form of journalism in which reporters deeply investigate a single topic of interest, such as serious crimes, political corruption, or corporate wrongdoing. An investigative journalist may spend months or years researching and preparing a report. Practitioners sometimes use the terms "watchdog reporting" or "accountability reporting".

Investigative journalism - Wikipedia

I don't blame you for not knowing that the Department of Justice is supposed to apply justice for murder. You flunked out of Trump University civics classes.

 

[marke]

Where in the Mueller Report does it say that?

Page number and direct citation Please

Mueller had no clue how the emails got from the DNC into Wikileak's hands. That is why he never claims he did find out, because he never did. Mueller did lie, or else one of his Hillary-loving, Trump-hating democrat hound dog prosecutors lied for him in the report. Mueller's report says Papadopolous told Misfud about "Russian possession of DNC emails."

In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen documents, a foreign
government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy
advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign
government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that
it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July
31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign
were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities
(Mueller Report, Vol. 1, p.9)

That was a lie. The truth was that Misfud told Papadopolous the lie first and if afterward Papadopolous said anything of the sort it was because he got his info from the lying Misfud. We know Misfud lied and set Papadopolous up from other knowledgeable sources.

While he was in Washington, the FBI approached Mifsud in the lobby of his hotel and questioned him about his interactions with Papadopoulos, prosecutors have said. Mueller wrote in his report that the Maltese professor made various inaccurate statements but that lies Papadopoulos had told the FBI about his interactions with Mifsud when he was interviewed 12 days earlier “undermined investigators’ ability to challenge Mifsud.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...74fe8c-8185-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html

Did Mueller or his team examine the DNC computers themselves to determine how Wikileaks got the emails? No. Did Mueller or his team question Assange, who had offered to give them a sworn statement about the emails? No. Did Mueller or his team contact the NSA about what they had on the DNC emails, Assange and Seth Rich? No. Mueller and his team simply blindly accepted the report issued by "Two unnamed federal agencies" as to how the emails left the DNC. Strangely, Mueller does not mention that those "two federal agencies" never examined the DNC computers themselves and that Obama had said of their assdessment that the opinionated fact-less conclusions "were not conclusive."

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack | The Nation

That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed
recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political
organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election
process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia
for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were
examining Russia’s interference in the election

Mueller Report, Vol. 1, p.9.

 

[marke]

This is the Mueller Report

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
Cite that.

This is from p. 50:

2. Guccifer 2.0
On June 14, 2016, the DNC and its cyber-response team announced the breach of the DNC
network and suspected theft of DNC documents. In the statements, the cyber-response team
alleged that Russian state-sponsored actors (which they referred to as “Fancy Bear”) were
responsible for the breach.145 Apparently in response to that announcement, on June 15, 2016,
GRU officers using the persona Guccifer 2.0 created a WordPress blog. In the hours leading up
to the launch of that WordPress blog, GRU officers logged into a Moscow-based server used and
managed by Unit 74455 and searched for a number of specific words and phrases in English,
including “some hundred sheets,” “illuminati,” and “worldwide known.” Approximately two
hours after the last of those searches, Guccifer 2.0 published its first post, attributing the DNC
server hack to a lone Romanian hacker and using several of the unique English words and phrases
that the GRU officers had searched for that day.



Let's say Mueller expects this 'evidence' to prove his case against the Russians. What is the first question the Russian defense attorney is going to ask? He will ask, "Mr. Mueller, you quote an unnamed source, referred to as "The DNC and its cyber-response team" as evidence of Russian hacking. Who are these people and why are you allowing them to tell you what to think instead of doing your own research? Did you examine the DNC computers yourself? No? Did the FBI share its 'irrefutable' evidence with you? If so, what are you doing quoting these unofficial reports from amateurs?

There are many problems with the Mueller Report which intelligent people without bias can see throughout. No wonder Mueller had a hard time rehearsing what he supposedly learned in his 3 year investigation. He had compiled a load of opinionated crap and expected gullible Americans to simply take him at his word that what he was presenting were irrefutable facts.