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aociswundumho said:
Perhaps, but that's what the word means.
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I need to point out that if you attended a philosophy class in socialism at a 101 level then that would be the question written up on the white board, " What does socialism mean." From there it would be expected that the conversation would expand to how socialism works in a modern society.

You need to take the same step of expanding from what the word means to how we are using it.


Every government has to allow some capitalism - otherwise everybody starves. Even Lenin, one of the most hate-filled commies that ever existed, allowed some capitalism in the USSR.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
True. But your being right here does not mean you are correct elsewhere. You are pointing out what marx already pointed out.

from your link.
Lenin took the position that in order to achieve socialism, he had to create "the missing material prerequisites" of modernization and industrial development that made it imperative for Soviet Russia to "fall back on a centrally supervised market-influenced program of state capitalism".[16] Lenin was following Karl Marx's precepts that a nation must first reach "full maturation of capitalism as the precondition for socialist realization."[17]
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Lenin was in to big a rush to become dictator to wait for capitalism to reach russia. He forced it in a brutal fashion. That was not communism.

Capitalism is not the enemy of socialism. But capitalism is also not the end game in human evolution.
 
aociswundumho said:
There is no "left wing ideology of individualism". Collectivism is a core value of the political left; they despise the individual and only think in terms of groups.
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I think you mistake us for the borg.

Regardless of whether there is an ideology or not, individualism exists as a real thing. There will always be people who are not satisfied with the status quo.
Both sides must deal with that.
 
aociswundumho said:
There is no "left wing ideology of individualism". Collectivism is a core value of the political left; they despise the individual and only think in terms of groups.
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Sure buddy whatever Tucker told you.
 
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