New state study highlights negative effects of marijuana.......

[Fearandloathing]

This is different from alcohol how?

There is no evidence that Marijuana causes cirrhosis of the liver.

Marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol, in fact it is considered a 'psychological' addiction.

There is no evidence using pot shortens your life, while alcohol use is said to take off from 3 to 12 years depending on the level of the addiction.

Marijuana is a proven pain management tool.

Marijuana is being used to treat serious addictions, a well as sleep disorders, as well as depression, anxiety, PTSD, chronic alcohol syndrome, and a treatment for schizophrenia. There are documented cases where marijuana is credited as curing a cancer and is used as a treatment for skin cancer and other skin ailments.

The fiber from the pot plant makes the finest linen in the world [I have a shirt. It is illegal in the US....what kind of a ****ed up police state makes a ****ing shirt illegal?]


Those are just a few differences. I could get into issues about impairment and studies done about driving -- did you know that 50% of those tested become BETTER drivers?

I suggest, my good friend, that you do some research.

Very important and well educated, highly respected people are leading the charge and have succeeded in showing the benefits in high places. People may have a low opinion of Canada, but we do have a Supreme court, considered fairly conservative and THEY have approved the use of marijuana as a medication...not only in smoke form, but as an edible...


Supreme Court: Medical Marijuana More Than Just Dried Pot

Note, all nine justices weighed in...

The decision was yet another rebuke of the Harper government's tough-on-crime agenda.

Not only was it unanimous, but the court made a point of attributing the written decision to the entire court — something the justices do when they want to underline a finding.

"The prohibition of non-dried forms of medical marijuana limits liberty and security of the person in a manner that is arbitrary and hence is not in accord with the principles of fundamental justice," said the written judgement.

 

[Fearandloathing]

I don't care what you do to yourself, but don't expect me to pay for your rent and healthcare when your life goes woefully wrong.

Can you supply a list of people whose lives have gone "woefully wrong" because of pot?

Ten will do

 

[Fearandloathing]

You will never convince current drug addicts of the negative effects of MJ no matter how many studies you come up with.

"Drug addicts" don't use marijuana.

This is how out of touch is the entire right of the US. "Drug Addicts" use heroin, speed, extacy, etc. Marijuana is less addictive than coffee. Further, medical users don't SMOKE it, in fact hardly anyone does anymore. At the least a user will vapor his weed. More often it is more highly refined into products that can be more easily vapored or eaten.

What you and the other dinosaurs need to know is that most "addicts" today are addicted to prescription or over the counter drugs, especially in the US.


Drug Rankings by Harm
Substance Physical Harm Dependence Social Harm UK Class US Schedule
Heroin 2.78 3.00 2.54 A I
Cocaine 2.33 2.39 2.17 A II
Barbiturates 2.23 2.01 2.00 B III
Street Methadone 1.86 2.08 1.87 A II
Alcohol 1.40 1.93 2.21 n/s n/s

Ketamine 2.00 1.54 1.69 C III
Benzodiazepines 1.63 1.83 1.65 C IV
Amphetamine 1.81 1.67 1.50 A II
Tobacco 1.24 2.21 1.42 n/s n/s
Buprenorphine 1.60 1.64 1.49 C III

Cannabis 0.99 1.51 1.50 B I
Solvents 1.28 1.01 1.52 n/s n/s
4-MTA 1.44 1.30 1.06 A n/s
LSD 1.13 1.23 1.32 A I
Methylphenidate 1.32 1.25 0.97 B II

Anabolic steroids 1.45 0.88 1.13 C III
GHB 0.86 1.19 1.30 C I
Ecstasy 1.05 1.13 1.09 A I
Alkyl nitrites 0.93 0.87 0.97 n/s n/s
Khat 0.50 1.04 0.85 C I




This list places marijuana 13th behind coffee
''http://www.ranker.com/list/the-most-addictive-drugs/prescription-drugs-list

So feel safe feeding your kid sugar and coffee, let them have alcohol, both more addictive than pot. but under no circumstances shall you let them have pot. Let them have the most highly addictive legal drug on the planet, responsible for millions and millions of ugly and prolonged deaths every year....it's called tobacco.

Your stance is kind of like gun freaks, you want to outlaw something that really is NOT a problem. Frankly I find the right far more closed-minded on this issue than the left is on gun control. You guys are at war against a myth, crowding prisons with people who wear hemp shirts

 

[Fearandloathing]

Of all the ironies. While I try to hold back Luddites on this forum, the radio is broadcasting a show on cancer treatment using marijuana. It in itself is presenting an incredible irony. We have evidence gallor of pot curing or treating various conditions and diseases, but there is very little research because it has been illegal. This show is dealing with the previous Harper Government who re-started the war on and who fought court rulings, did so in part sop there could be no research.

Get that...so there could be no research. "The burning weed from hell" as presented by the film "Reefer Madness" is still alive in the minds of the right. The deliberately created smear campaign still has power today, despite the fact no one can produce ONE 'marijuana addict'. FFS, I am an addict, an alcoholic who got clean and sober May 21, 1991. I have worked with addict/alcoholics for all of those years, and NOT ONE of them was addicted to pot; most hard core users hate pot, they do not want their minds awakened, but shut down entirely.

In the last four or five years my work has taken me into the street, to those who could not take the 12 steps and for whom it is thought there is no hope. There is but that is a very long story. The typical we will call Jeremy. Jeremy has a bad heroin monkey. It has claimed parts of his body, including somehow the tip of his nose.

He lives in various camping spots in the city. He has been able to stay with methadone, but like every methadone user anyone has ever seen, he needs to 'top up' as methadone relieves the physical and painful craving, it does not alter reality, which is his addiction. So he drinks **** loads of cheap wine to the point his stomach is shot, he begs coin in front of market and people bring him food, which he sells as he can't really eat normal food.

The thing is, Jeremy can score any mind bending, instant addiction, high powered hell drug known to mankind, you'll probably have to front him the money. He can score pot, but never uses it.

This is typical.

The association of pot with hard core addiction is asinine. We have been convinced by pot smoking comedians and movie writers that stoners are couch surfers who can barely string five words together. The stigma of "reefer madness' remains.

What I am told by the people in white coats and lightening-fast reactions [ER staff] is that the majority of OD's are not street people, not illegal drugs, but prescription drug use. They are trained to look for that first in certain type clients. The trillion dollar pharmaceutical companies go far greater, and legal lengths, to promote their product for use in the slightest of symptoms.

Worrying about the unhealthy effects of pot in a world where known cancer creating products, the number one killer - cigarettes, where alcohol claims millions of lives on the highways alone, is like worrying about who gets to own a gun when a nuclear missile is on its way.

 

[beefheart]

Of all the ironies. While I try to hold back Luddites on this forum, the radio is broadcasting a show on cancer treatment using marijuana. It in itself is presenting an incredible irony. We have evidence gallor of pot curing or treating various conditions and diseases, but there is very little research because it has been illegal. This show is dealing with the previous Harper Government who re-started the war on and who fought court rulings, did so in part sop there could be no research.

Get that...so there could be no research. "The burning weed from hell" as presented by the film "Reefer Madness" is still alive in the minds of the right. The deliberately created smear campaign still has power today, despite the fact no one can produce ONE 'marijuana addict'. FFS, I am an addict, an alcoholic who got clean and sober May 21, 1991. I have worked with addict/alcoholics for all of those years, and NOT ONE of them was addicted to pot; most hard core users hate pot, they do not want their minds awakened, but shut down entirely.

In the last four or five years my work has taken me into the street, to those who could not take the 12 steps and for whom it is thought there is no hope. There is but that is a very long story. The typical we will call Jeremy. Jeremy has a bad heroin monkey. It has claimed parts of his body, including somehow the tip of his nose.

He lives in various camping spots in the city. He has been able to stay with methadone, but like every methadone user anyone has ever seen, he needs to 'top up' as methadone relieves the physical and painful craving, it does not alter reality, which is his addiction. So he drinks **** loads of cheap wine to the point his stomach is shot, he begs coin in front of market and people bring him food, which he sells as he can't really eat normal food.

The thing is, Jeremy can score any mind bending, instant addiction, high powered hell drug known to mankind, you'll probably have to front him the money. He can score pot, but never uses it.

This is typical.

The association of pot with hard core addiction is asinine. We have been convinced by pot smoking comedians and movie writers that stoners are couch surfers who can barely string five words together. The stigma of "reefer madness' remains.

What I am told by the people in white coats and lightening-fast reactions [ER staff] is that the majority of OD's are not street people, not illegal drugs, but prescription drug use. They are trained to look for that first in certain type clients. The trillion dollar pharmaceutical companies go far greater, and legal lengths, to promote their product for use in the slightest of symptoms.

Worrying about the unhealthy effects of pot in a world where known cancer creating products, the number one killer - cigarettes, where alcohol claims millions of lives on the highways alone, is like worrying about who gets to own a gun when a nuclear missile is on its way.

The anti marijuana crowd is so set in their ways, they refuse to open their minds, just a tiny bit...

 

[Fearandloathing]

The anti marijuana crowd is so set in their ways, they refuse to open their minds, just a tiny bit...

What is frightening as, one, it is a 1950's mindset, and two, some people I know and respect are among them. For us, the debate now is how to make it available, not whether it should be. And the government is making no distinction between medical or recreational as one proposal is to sell it through provincial liquor outlets.

When I think of how many college kids who have been busted and sentenced for a few grams and who, through contact with hardened criminals become hardened criminals I want to cry. To give someone a life sentence as a "felon', unable to even vote for possession of a weed that grows wild throughout the US, I do cry.

 

[sookster]

Does this study distinguish between level of studying amongst the underage marijuana users?

The last study suffered from the flaw that they didn't bother to look into the amounts of studying and the time of studying. It only compared chronic underage pot smokers to non-smokers, and concluded that chronic/heavy underage users ended up several IQ points lower than their sober counterparts.

The problem being that there is a debate in the field regarding the effect of studying on IQ. If the side of the debate holding that studying math and language properly leads to a higher IQ is correct, then you'd want to see whether there was a difference in studying habits amongst chronic underage smokers.

It may be that those who get high and then don't study end up with a lower IQ, or get high before school (or what this study looked at: "learning, reading and mathematics") suffer primarily because they never bothered to educate themselves. And that, conversely, those who did all their studying before getting high and who don't get high before school end up with a substantially higher IQ.

Or, it could of course be a simple fact that you shouldn't smoke pot while underage.



Anyway, as far as adult users go, it is pretty much the safest drug taken for recreational purposes that exists.

Not positive, but I don't think IQ measures the ability to learn, rather your intellectual ability.

 

[MAGAnificent]

So have I most of my life, that is until a case of Meniere's was enhanced by cluster migraines. One of the reasons it took them so long to figure it out was that I never expressed what was happening as a headache, since I had never had one outside of hang overs when I was drinking. I never even kept ibuprofen, sometimes a viatmine C tab to clear my nasal passages and that was it.

So through 15 months of excruciating pain I used nothing to manage the pain. It was only after starting a course of amitriptyline, a preventative that I was encouraged to try different pain relievers, including marijuana, however, probably unlike your mother I have a history of addiction so anything on the opiate side is contraindicated, meaning they loose their license if they give it to me.

One of the advantages of marijuana is that once you use it, and I vaporize, you are unlikely to have a reoccurrence. The downside it is not covered by MSP and is more expensive. One of the reasons he included marijuana as a possibility is that since I have never been on any form of painkiller, even when I broke my ribs, it was possible we would see an "over-medication" side effect with the kind of heavy doses of ibuprofen (1,200 mg) or naproxen.

The goal is to not need anything, but the conundrum is that ion order to get there I need to be more active and with migraines I often can't get out the door unless I am medicated

Knowing what I know I would prefer to have THC inside my system than any opiate

I am glad that you are getting some control of the headaches, even if I am against legalization of pot for recreational use.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Not opiates and not marijuana. What then?

Relax. In some cases an occasional simple dose of ibuprofen will do.

 

[Reformedfindlay]

New state study highlights negative effects of marijuana on adolescent, young adult brains | FOX31 Denver



Duh.

Oh well, thins the herd for the kids smart enough to know better.

Why have a study on a population that no one agrees should be legally allowed to smoke marijuana anyways (adolescents)?

 

[Fearandloathing]

I am glad that you are getting some control of the headaches, even if I am against legalization of pot for recreational use.

Well, get used to the idea. This country WILL legalize it well before the next election and the Liberals are making NO distinction between medical and recreational.

Further, yesterday a federal court judge struck down the Harper Conservatives attempt to control production in ruling that a patient may indeed grow their own. And by having tinkered with the legislation and how the new bill replaced old legislation, it is now, technically legal for anyone with a flower pot to raise a crop.

Lawmakers are idiots. While trying to curb distribution they inadvertently opened it up as wide as it gets. There are some 400 possession and possession for the purpose of trafficking now before the courts. A retired judge on the radio this afternoon said it is unlikely ANY of them can now proceed.

 

[countryboy]

There is no evidence that Marijuana causes cirrhosis of the liver.

Marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol, in fact it is considered a 'psychological' addiction.

There is no evidence using pot shortens your life, while alcohol use is said to take off from 3 to 12 years depending on the level of the addiction.

Marijuana is a proven pain management tool.

Marijuana is being used to treat serious addictions, a well as sleep disorders, as well as depression, anxiety, PTSD, chronic alcohol syndrome, and a treatment for schizophrenia. There are documented cases where marijuana is credited as curing a cancer and is used as a treatment for skin cancer and other skin ailments.

The fiber from the pot plant makes the finest linen in the world [I have a shirt. It is illegal in the US....what kind of a ****ed up police state makes a ****ing shirt illegal?]


Those are just a few differences. I could get into issues about impairment and studies done about driving -- did you know that 50% of those tested become BETTER drivers?

I suggest, my good friend, that you do some research.

Very important and well educated, highly respected people are leading the charge and have succeeded in showing the benefits in high places. People may have a low opinion of Canada, but we do have a Supreme court, considered fairly conservative and THEY have approved the use of marijuana as a medication...not only in smoke form, but as an edible...


Supreme Court: Medical Marijuana More Than Just Dried Pot

Note, all nine justices weighed in...

The decision was yet another rebuke of the Harper government's tough-on-crime agenda.

Not only was it unanimous, but the court made a point of attributing the written decision to the entire court — something the justices do when they want to underline a finding.

"The prohibition of non-dried forms of medical marijuana limits liberty and security of the person in a manner that is arbitrary and hence is not in accord with the principles of fundamental justice," said the written judgement.

I am for complete legalization of Marijuana. However, the plant grown for fabric and oil (hemp) contains so little THC, you couldn't get high off it if you wanted to. Many Hemp products are legal in the USA.

Don't forget, not only does Hemp make a fine linen, it also produces some of the best paper in the world.

 

[beefheart]

Eric Holder: It's Time To Talk About Decriminalizing Marijuana | ThinkProgress

Eric Holder: It’s Time To Talk About Decriminalizing Marijuana

by Aaron Rupar Feb 25, 2016 10:39 am



In a newly published PBS “Frontline” interview, former Attorney General Eric Holder comes out in support of reclassifying marijuana from a Schedule I substance — a classification reserved for dangerous drugs that have no medical use — into a less restrictive category.

“I certainly think it ought to be rescheduled,” Holder says. “You know, we treat marijuana in the same way that we treat heroin now, and that clearly is not appropriate.”

That statement goes a bit further than Holder’s comments on marijuana when he was attorney general. In September 2014, he said rescheduling the drug is “something that I think we need to ask ourselves, and use science as the basis for making that determination.”

But the current scheduling scheme as specified by the Controlled Substances Act is far from scientific. Marijuana falls under Schedule I, while highly addictive and potent drugs such as cocaine, opium poppy, morphine, and codeine are listed as less-restricted Schedule II controlled substances. Meanwhile, the synthetic version of THC, known as dronabinol, is listed as Schedule III, even though THC is the ingredient in cannabis that causes psychoactive effects.

In the “Frontline” interview, which was filmed last September but just released on Tuesday, Holder says Congress should act to reschedule marijuana. But as ThinkProgress has previously reported, the executive branch and Drug Enforcement Agency both have the capability to unilaterally reschedule controlled substances without congressional input.

 

[Fearandloathing]

I am for complete legalization of Marijuana. However, the plant grown for fabric and oil (hemp) contains so little THC, you couldn't get high off it if you wanted to. Many Hemp products are legal in the USA.

Don't forget, not only does Hemp make a fine linen, it also produces some of the best paper in the world.

There is NO THC in the stems, seeds or leaves. None.

THC is a byproduct of the growing process. It can been seen in high quality weed as a very fine crystalate. THC is amount is determined by the growing conditions not the breed of marijuana. Taste, smell, appearance are factors along with flavinoids which form on the flower itself. Now how much flower and so forth ARE determined by the breed, so one pot will be understood to be stronger than another, but what is really happening is that there is simply more flowers produced.

Technically, the US is in violation of its own laws by banning seeds and fiber from the plant as neither actually produces THC. Also, if you allow marijuana to simply grow wild, it will cease to produce THC, no one knows why. It is believed it forms as some kind of prevention from predators, but no one is sure

 

[yankintx]

Question for the Conservatives who oppose lifting the fed prohibition on cannabis

Most conservatives lean towards smaller government, and States having more autonomy from the Feds, do you not feel that the cannabis federal ban is unconstitutional in regards to the 10th Amendment?

I believe there is a case making its way to the Supreme Court now which may provide some guidance on the issue.

Marijuana Legalization: Antonin Scalia?s Death Could Sway Supreme Court Decision On Major Cannabis Lawsuit

 

[Thoreau72]

Eric Holder: It's Time To Talk About Decriminalizing Marijuana | ThinkProgress

Eric Holder: It’s Time To Talk About Decriminalizing Marijuana

by Aaron Rupar Feb 25, 2016 10:39 am



In a newly published PBS “Frontline” interview, former Attorney General Eric Holder comes out in support of reclassifying marijuana from a Schedule I substance — a classification reserved for dangerous drugs that have no medical use — into a less restrictive category.

“I certainly think it ought to be rescheduled,” Holder says. “You know, we treat marijuana in the same way that we treat heroin now, and that clearly is not appropriate.”

That statement goes a bit further than Holder’s comments on marijuana when he was attorney general. In September 2014, he said rescheduling the drug is “something that I think we need to ask ourselves, and use science as the basis for making that determination.”

But the current scheduling scheme as specified by the Controlled Substances Act is far from scientific. Marijuana falls under Schedule I, while highly addictive and potent drugs such as cocaine, opium poppy, morphine, and codeine are listed as less-restricted Schedule II controlled substances. Meanwhile, the synthetic version of THC, known as dronabinol, is listed as Schedule III, even though THC is the ingredient in cannabis that causes psychoactive effects.

In the “Frontline” interview, which was filmed last September but just released on Tuesday, Holder says Congress should act to reschedule marijuana. But as ThinkProgress has previously reported, the executive branch and Drug Enforcement Agency both have the capability to unilaterally reschedule controlled substances without congressional input.

Egads, citing Eric Holder is rather like citing John Yoo or Charles Manson, eh?

 

[justabubba]

Eric Holder: It's Time To Talk About Decriminalizing Marijuana | ThinkProgress

Eric Holder: It’s Time To Talk About Decriminalizing Marijuana

by Aaron Rupar Feb 25, 2016 10:39 am



In a newly published PBS “Frontline” interview, former Attorney General Eric Holder comes out in support of reclassifying marijuana from a Schedule I substance — a classification reserved for dangerous drugs that have no medical use — into a less restrictive category.

“I certainly think it ought to be rescheduled,” Holder says. “You know, we treat marijuana in the same way that we treat heroin now, and that clearly is not appropriate.”

That statement goes a bit further than Holder’s comments on marijuana when he was attorney general. In September 2014, he said rescheduling the drug is “something that I think we need to ask ourselves, and use science as the basis for making that determination.”

But the current scheduling scheme as specified by the Controlled Substances Act is far from scientific. Marijuana falls under Schedule I, while highly addictive and potent drugs such as cocaine, opium poppy, morphine, and codeine are listed as less-restricted Schedule II controlled substances. Meanwhile, the synthetic version of THC, known as dronabinol, is listed as Schedule III, even though THC is the ingredient in cannabis that causes psychoactive effects.

In the “Frontline” interview, which was filmed last September but just released on Tuesday, Holder says Congress should act to reschedule marijuana. But as ThinkProgress has previously reported, the executive branch and Drug Enforcement Agency both have the capability to unilaterally reschedule controlled substances without congressional input.

why the **** did this fellow not express these views when he was the attorney ****ing general

 

[Fearandloathing]

why the **** did this fellow not express these views when he was the attorney ****ing general

It might have cost Obama some points

 

[Mr Person]

So your perspective is that every problem looks like a nail? Brilliant.

Migraines? Morphine.

Rheumatoid arthritis? Morphine.

Lupus? Morphine.

Crohn's Disease? Morphine

Fibromyalgia? Morphine.

Multiple sclerosis? Morphine.

Neuropathy? Morphine.

No, sport, however I would not prescribe smoking pot for any of them.

Not opiates and not marijuana. What then?

Relax. In some cases an occasional simple dose of ibuprofen will do.

Advil all around?

You must be young and lucky enough not to ever have had, or to ever have known, anyone with a serious disease or injury. Either that, or you're being incredibly intellectually dishonest about this.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Relax. In some cases an occasional simple dose of ibuprofen will do.

Indeed. It doesn't seem to me, however, that anyone here has advocated completely replacing effective OTC or prescription pharmaceuticals with cannabis. Certainly ibuprofen is and can be effective for many things. No one said we should toss them out and simply inhale or ingest marijuana. Continued ibuprofen use, or should we say abuse, can be dangerous. There have been a few articles published in the mainstream lately addressing the subject.

No one here is condemning the use of ibuprofen or prescription pharmaceuticals as a whole.

 

[Mr Person]

Also, if you allow marijuana to simply grow wild, it will cease to produce THC, no one knows why.

Where do you get that?

As you asked me recently: Source?



Even wild-growing C. Ruderalis (central russia) produces some THC. It's just way less than cultivated sativa or indica.

Even industrial hemp has some THC, it's just that the concentration is so low that it might as well be treated as zero. You couldn't consume enough of it to get high. But "very very very little" =/= "none at all". The ratio of CBD-to-THC is also relevant.

HEMP AND MARIJUANA: Myths and Realities
(Link to sources it summarizes)

ie, "They are taking a new approach that classifies any sample with less than 1.0 percent THC and a CBD-to-THC ratio greater than one as "ditchweed," in order to have a proper discrimination among the samples. This was never done for the data on which the claims of great potency increase are based, from pre-1983 samples. Interestingly, this same threshold- THC less than 1 percent and the ratio of CBD to THC greater than one -is a prescription for industrial hemp.

Current hemp varieties grown in Canada and Europe are certified to have THC levels below 0.3 percent. The certification system originally developed in Europe to allow for the commercialization of industrial hemp considered the ratio of CBD to THC as well as the absolute percent THC. The original THC threshold was 0.8 percent."

 

[JasperL]

Indeed. It doesn't seem to me, however, that anyone here has advocated completely replacing effective OTC or prescription pharmaceuticals with cannabis. Certainly ibuprofen is and can be effective for many things. No one said we should toss them out and simply inhale or ingest marijuana. Continued ibuprofen use, or should we say abuse, can be dangerous. There have been a few articles published in the mainstream lately addressing the subject.

No one here is condemning the use of ibuprofen or prescription pharmaceuticals as a whole.

That's part of the point, though, that ibuprofen, acetaminophen, and other NSAIDs sold over the counter kill FAR more people than pot each year, and cause all kinds of liver and stomach problems. It's just another in a long list of reasons why the ban on pot is so misguided in nearly every possible way.

 

[Risky Thicket]

That's part of the point, though, that ibuprofen, acetaminophen, and other NSAIDs sold over the counter kill FAR more people than pot each year, and cause all kinds of liver and stomach problems. It's just another in a long list of reasons why the ban on pot is so misguided in nearly every possible way.

Absolutely. Migraine headaches, as FearandLoathing pointed out, might be a good illustration of that.

Fortunately I've never had much of an issue with headaches. Migraines I've had maybe a handful or less times. Ibuprofen helped and I was glad I had it. I wouldn't want to know what it is like to experience chronic migraine headaches. From what I have read while ibuprofen may help people who endure chronic migraines, the short term relief gained from ibuprofen may not be worth the longterm and possibly permanent side effects. That's a nasty dilemma.

Why would anyone want to deny a less harmful alternative to some/many/most (?) chronic migraine sufferers?

 

[JasperL]

Absolutely. Migraine headaches, as FearandLoathing pointed out, might be a good illustration of that.

Fortunately I've never had much of an issue with headaches. Migraines I've had maybe a handful or less times. Ibuprofen helped and I was glad I had it. I wouldn't want to know what it is like to experience chronic migraine headaches. From what I have read while ibuprofen may help people who endure chronic migraines, the short term relief gained from ibuprofen may not be worth the longterm and possibly permanent side effects. That's a nasty dilemma.

Why would anyone want to deny a less harmful alternative to some/many/most (?) chronic migraine sufferers?

Heck, I can't figure out why anyone would deny pot as a generally less harmful alternative to booze, so I sure don't get why anyone would have ANY problem with using it for any real or even imagined medical purpose. I've seen pain studies that point out "mood" is improved with people on pot. If it's because they get high and simply enjoy being high, I say fantastic!

 

[Risky Thicket]

Heck, I can't figure out why anyone would deny pot as a generally less harmful alternative to booze, so I sure don't get why anyone would have ANY problem with using it for any real or even imagined medical purpose. I've seen pain studies that point out "mood" is improved with people on pot. If it's because they get high and simply enjoy being high, I say fantastic!

Bingo! I think you hit the nail on the head. People who are against medicinal cannabis don't want people feeling good, IMHO. Feeling better? Yeah they probably want people to feel better. But, they had better, by God, not feel good. We aren't supposed to feel good. We are supposed to suffer. It's the American way, I'm afraid.

If you do feel good it must be a government feel good. People can't just go off and feel good on their own. If, for an example, you have a migraine it is fine to take an OTC palliative or a prescribed pharmaceutical to ease or end the pain because the government said that it is OK. But people have no right to go out there and use a natural weed that is not approved by government. It is even worse if the non government approved pain remedy makes a migraine person feel good. People are not supposed to feel good. They are only supposed to feel better.

Them: Is your migraine gone? How do you feel now? Do you feel better?

Migraine person: My migraine is gone. In fact I feel great! My anxiety, my stress and my migraine are gone. I'm feeling great now.

Them: Holy ****! You aren't supposed to feel great. We ****ed up. You are supposed to feel better, not great. Next time we're giving you ibuprofen so that you'll only feel better. This feeling great **** has to end now. No one is supposed to feel great.