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New state study highlights negative effects of marijuana.......

Absentglare said:
Btw, for the record, stonewall50 and i seem to have been in a disagreement over what looks to be a misunderstanding.

When stonewall50 said this :



And i responded with this :



It looked like i was trying to claim that there's nothing wrong with stoned driving, that i was opposing his point. I can see how it looks that way, but it wasn't what i meant to say. I meant to simply elaborate because i don't believe in attaching overly strict punishments and i have concern over residual THC being used to criminalize drivers who may infrequently use marijuana in the safety of their own home.
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I dunno. Seems to me like you were listing a number of thins that were also "bad" to do while driving, and then noted that drunk drivers kill a lot more people statistically speaking. That's accurate.
 
Mr Person said:
I dunno. Seems to me like you were listing a number of thins that were also "bad" to do while driving, and then noted that drunk drivers kill a lot more people statistically speaking. That's accurate.
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I consider both interpretations to be reasonable.
 
Absentglare said:
Btw, for the record, stonewall50 and i seem to have been in a disagreement over what looks to be a misunderstanding.

When stonewall50 said this :



And i responded with this :



It looked like i was trying to claim that there's nothing wrong with stoned driving, that i was opposing his point. I can see how it looks that way, but it wasn't what i meant to say. I meant to simply elaborate because i don't believe in attaching overly strict punishments and i have concern over residual THC being used to criminalize drivers who may infrequently use marijuana in the safety of their own home.
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And I reacted like an asshole to push buttons because I needed to vent on someone.












I hate my job
 
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If weed is as bad as some believe, wouldn't we have some REAL proof, folks have been using it for ever as a natural remedy.
 
yankintx said:
If weed is as bad as some believe, wouldn't we have some REAL proof, folks have been using it for ever as a natural remedy.
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If weed is as bad as some say, we would not need to check somebody's urine to find out if they have used it?
 
Mr Person said:
Anonymous internet person proves that cancer and other terminal disease patients are lying when they say that marijuana relieves their pain by saying he "just do not by" those claims....
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No serious person is claiming that smoking pot relieves pain. The claim I have seen repeated often is that it relieves nausea. However there are many legal and more effective alternatives. I am just not buying that one's nausea can only be treated effectively by getting stoned.
 
ObamacareFail said:
No serious person is claiming that smoking pot relieves pain. The claim I have seen repeated often is that it relieves nausea. However there are many legal and more effective alternatives. I am just not buying that one's nausea can only be treated effectively by getting stoned.
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My Aunt succumbed to cancer. She suffererd immensely from it. Marijuana did indeed relieve her nausea and ease some of her pain. Other family members who are preachy bible thumpers still didn't have the balls to tell a 79 year old woman suffering from brain cancer that she shouldn't use marijuana because it doesn't work bla bla bla. When you get a terminal illness then you can report back if it alleviates nausea and pain or not.
 
beefheart said:
Oh, Fenton....please, tell me....how many people have ever died from overdosing on marijuana?

You always avoid that question...don't ya?
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Your arbitrary standards for legalization and reliability are irrelevant.

It can cause debilitating mental illness including psychosis.

It's not " healthy ", its not safe and it should never be legalized
 
Fenton said:
Your arbitrary standards for legalization and reliability are irrelevant.

It can cause debilitating mental illness including psychosis.

It's not " healthy ", its not safe and it should never be legalized
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Then you must support outlawing alcohol, and many prescription drugs. And High fructose corn syrup, or processed foods, those are far from healthy.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Then you must support outlawing alcohol, and many prescription drugs. And High fructose corn syrup, or processed foods, those are far from healthy.
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Sorry, we don't and have never based the legality of distinct psychoactive compounds on objective comparison to alcohol.

Don't know why you folks keep using this argument because it makes zero sense
 
Fenton said:
Your arbitrary standards for legalization and reliability are irrelevant.

It can cause debilitating mental illness including psychosis.

It's not " healthy ", its not safe and it should never be legalized
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Oh, look, you aren't answering a simple question, are you?

How many people have died from overdosing on marijuna Fenton? Come on, answer the question. If you are going to debate this topic, you have to be able to answer a very simple question.
 
Fenton said:
Sorry, we don't and have never based the legality of distinct psychoactive compounds on objective comparison to alcohol.
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Sorry, we don't and have never based the legality of distinct psychoactive compounds on an objective comparison of how healthy or dangerous they are.
 
beefheart said:
Oh, look, you aren't answering a simple question, are you?

How many people have died from overdosing on marijuna Fenton? Come on, answer the question. If you are going to debate this topic, you have to be able to answer a very simple question.
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The folks who are very anti marijuana are usually the ones who have not tried it lol

They can have there six pack every night, poison. Keep it green
 
Fenton said:
Sorry, we don't and have never based the legality of distinct psychoactive compounds on objective comparison to alcohol.

Don't know why you folks keep using this argument because it makes zero sense
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How many people have OD'd from marijuana? What are the stats of alcohol poisoning? Many regularly take doctor prescribed medications that contain psychoactive compounds that have also killed people. Medications are constantly being recalled. Marijuana compared to alcohol and many prescription medications is nothing.
 
yankintx said:
The folks who are very anti marijuana are usually the ones who have not tried it lol

They can have there six pack every night, poison. Keep it green
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Exactly, and they probably have a medicine cabinet full or prescription meds that cause liver damage and who knows what else.
 
Fenton said:
There's is REAL proof, you and every other pro-legalization advocate just ignore it outright.

King's College London - Uncovering the link between cannabis and psychosis
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A post from near the beginning of this thread (below) links to a news article, which links to the link you've provided above. The article calls it a "study", yet what your "study" actually is just another article....and not a study.

You're effectively re-posting the same thing.

Fenton said:
'Skunk' cannabis can cause 'significant' brain damage | Health News | Lifestyle | The Independent

There's a also distinction between the marijuana of the 70s and 80s and the stuff that's available today.

It can cause significant brain damage according to the study I just posted.
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Since the debunking of this (above) earlier post was already done back in pps 3-5, I won't bother to rehash it. Suffice it to say that the only relation of marijuana to "psychosis" is that marijuana use (and just about any other type of drug use including alcohol) can activate latent mental illness that the person already had.
 
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yankintx said:
The folks who are very anti marijuana are usually the ones who have not tried it lol

They can have there six pack every night, poison. Keep it green
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Marijuana can kill you...if a ton of it falls on top of you.

Fenton has been dodging my question for months, I wonder why?
 
Once I smoked a joint and I did think that I was going to die if I didn't get my hands on some beef Jerky.
 
Fenton said:
Sorry, we don't and have never based the legality of distinct psychoactive compounds on objective comparison to alcohol.

Don't know why you folks keep using this argument because it makes zero sense
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What we're pointing out is the standards you're using to justify outlawing pot are arbitrary, unmoored from any defensible principle of harm reduction, etc. and the evidence for that is the wildly different standards applied to pot versus other substances, such as alcohol, nicotine, HFCS, fast food, etc.
 
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