It depends. Is the ban really about the clean, fresh air or is it more about the fact that people are slobs and keep littering the place with cigarette butts?
I'm all for keeping parks and beaches as clean as possible.
It depends. Is the ban really about the clean, fresh air or is it more about the fact that people are slobs and keep littering the place with cigarette butts?
I'm all for keeping parks and beaches as clean as possible.
Even if it infringes on individual freedom?
It's either a complete ban or putting a fines system in place that would be impossible to enforce. :shrug: Public parks and beaches are not private property. Their upkeep is the responsibility of the state. I have no problem with this at all. I'm against smoking bans on private property, though, like bars, restaurants etc...
You must always see such measures for what they truly are. They are not about public health or safety, or littering, at the very core of this and all other policing of habits, is control of the people. You are too stupid, friendo, you need Big Brother to guide your life and keep you on the wagon like a good churl.
Yeah, but the cups, cans, bottles, dirty diapers, newspaper, paper wrappings, old food, dog **** and used needles are nooooooo problem.It's probably more about litter. It costs the city money to supply butt receptacles, empty them, dispose of the butts and clean up after smokers. Littering laws are ineffective and hard to enforce. Smokers not policing themselves led to this law. They can blame themselves.
Yeah, but the cups, cans, bottles, dirty diapers, newspaper, paper wrappings, old food, dog **** and used needles are nooooooo problem.
Probably the bottom line truth of any of these stupid ordinances.Hey hey hey, smokers brought this on themselves. As for readers, eaters, drinkers, and pet owners....they'll get theirs soon enough. But it's easier to get people to freak out about smoking than it is about eating McDonald's.
But in seriousness, the law is retarded. But IMO its not about health or litering. It's about creating another law with another fine so that the government can squeeze more out of ya. More and more and more laws, but we don't really seem to get rid of any old ones. Maybe that's not the best route to take.
Hey hey hey, smokers brought this on themselves. As for readers, eaters, drinkers, and pet owners....they'll get theirs soon enough. But it's easier to get people to freak out about smoking than it is about eating McDonald's.
But in seriousness, the law is retarded. But IMO its not about health or litering. It's about creating another law with another fine so that the government can squeeze more out of ya. More and more and more laws, but we don't really seem to get rid of any old ones. Maybe that's not the best route to take.
Yeah, but the cups, cans, bottles, dirty diapers, newspaper, paper wrappings, old food, dog **** and used needles are nooooooo problem.
And you see no problem with this? So you'll be able to go to a park, just don't bring any food, drink, diapers, reading material or your dog. Sounds fun.Of course they are. Someday those items will be banned in public places too.
What that does is keep families from drinking Snapple while doing nothing to discourage the beer bottles left by the bums overnight.Some already are. Glass bottles were banned on beaches years ago. Was that part of a plan to social engineer?.
No it reduces the amount of broken glass in the sand.What that does is keep families from drinking Snapple while doing nothing to discourage the beer bottles left by the bums overnight.
And you see no problem with this? So you'll be able to go to a park, just don't bring any food, drink, diapers, reading material or your dog. Sounds fun.
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Maybe people should start cleaning up after themselves.
New York City Council bans smoking in parks, beaches, Times Square
Is the new ban in New York a good thing or is it going too far.
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