New Kansas law lets pharmacists refuse to offer some drugs

[TheDemSocialist]

A new law signed Monday by Kansas Gov.Sam Brownback lets pharmacists deny offering drugs they think could cause an abortion, The Wichita Eagle reports.[FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Supporters of the Heath Care Rights of Conscience Act say it adds to a state law saying no one should have to participate in abortions. But critics say pharmacists potentially could decline requests for the “morning-after” pill and potentially also birth control, according to the report.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Read more @: [/FONT]New Kansas law lets pharmacists refuse to offer some drugs - Kansas City Business Journal

[FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Good god my great state of Kansas is really going off the ledge. This can hurt so many lives. This bill is irresponsible and idiotic. So many problems will be faced with this bill. The hypocrisy of republican "small government" is killing me. [/FONT]

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[FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Comments?[/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Response?[/FONT]

 

[tessaesque]

While I don't think it's okay to let religious ideology dictate law, I don't think we should allow law to mandate business participation in the selling of any particular item.

Mandating that a pharmacy sell Drug X would be equatable to mandating that a tire store sell Brand X of tire, regardless of their reasoning for rejecting the sale of Brand X within their corporation.

It's a tricky situation.

 

[Jerry]

Without having read a word of the OP, only the thread title...is this about BC? Because this thread is going to be very lame if this is about BC....I mean talk about your dead horses....

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Read more @: New Kansas law lets pharmacists refuse to offer some drugs - Kansas City Business Journal

Good god my great state of Kansas is really going off the ledge. This can hurt so many lives. This bill is irresponsible and idiotic. So many problems will be faced with this bill. The hypocrisy of republican "small government" is killing me.

Thoughts?
Comments?
Response?

.....great, another BC thread, and me caught without a "oh look it's this thread again" .jpeg

 

[Jerry]

Wait, Jerry, let's keep our faith in humanity just a bit longer. Maybe someone will have something informative or original to say.

 

[Jerry]

Wait, Jerry, let's keep our faith in humanity just a bit longer. Maybe someone will have something informative or original to say.

No, Jerry, someone's already chimed in with the 'religious bigot' angle, and of course they're always going to blame it on us Christians even-though they say this isn't a Christian nation out the other side of their mouth. $5 says someone will bring up the technical medical stages of conception before the first page is through.

 

[tessaesque]

No, Jerry, someone's already chimed in with the 'religious bigot' angle, and of course they're always going to blame it on us Christians even-though they say this isn't a Christian nation out the other side of their mouth. $5 says someone will bring up the technical medical stages of conception before the first page is through.

...if you're refering to my post I said nothing about bigotry, or did I condemn religion in any way.

 

[Jerry]

No, Jerry, someone's already chimed in with the 'religious bigot' angle, and of course they're always going to blame it on us Christians even-though they say this isn't a Christian nation out the other side of their mouth. $5 says someone will bring up the technical medical stages of conception before the first page is through.

That's not a fair bet since medial information is relevant to hormonal BC. Besides, most folks don't have their personal settings to display 40 posts per page like we do.

So how should we go about this, then? Some folks want BC, others, very few, do not. What's to discuss? We don't exactly make state law on this forum.

 

[Jerry]

That's not a fair bet since medial information is relevant to hormonal BC. Besides, most folks don't have their personal settings to display 40 posts per page like we do.

So how should we go about this, then? Some folks want BC, others, very few, do not. What's to discuss? We don't exactly make state law on this forum.

Well I guess I could just our general positions on this, maybe that would help:

Premise: No one has the right to kill someone else unless they are a direct threat.
~Given that premise, early use of plan-B does not cause an abortion, so no one dies.

 

[Jerry]

Well I guess I could just our general positions on this, maybe that would help:

Premise: No one has the right to kill someone else unless they are a direct threat.
~Given that premise, early use of plan-B does not cause an abortion, so no one dies.

True, but late use of Plan-B does cause abortion, so does that mean we should at least restrict access? Maybe require a second doctor's opinion?

 

[Jerry]

True, but late use of Plan-B does cause abortion, so does that mean we should at least restrict access? Maybe require a second doctor's opinion?

I don't think restricting access further is a solution, because that would only delay a woman's use of Plan-B, thus increasing the chance of causing an abortion. The earlier she get's Plan-B, the better.

Also, think of the complications military women getting Plan-B. Sure, it's true that all military pharmacies are required to carry Plan-B because taking soldiers out of the battle field due to pregnancy harms our military efforts. Adding restrictions adds to the risk.

On another note, shouldn't private businesses be able to choose what products they will and will not sell?

 

[Jerry]

I don't think restricting access further is a solution, because that would only delay a woman's use of Plan-B, thus increasing the chance of causing an abortion. The earlier she get's Plan-B, the better.

Also, think of the complications military women getting Plan-B. Sure, it's true that all military pharmacies are required to carry Plan-B because taking soldiers out of the battle field due to pregnancy harms our military efforts. Adding restrictions adds to the risk.

...just another reason women don't belong in the military....

On another note, shouldn't private businesses be able to choose what products they will and will not sell?

Generally I would say yes so long as the business isn't giving the product to some but not others. All or nothing imo.

 

[Jerry]

...just another reason women don't belong in the military....

That was uncalled for. Don't be a pig, this isn't /b/

Generally I would say yes so long as the business isn't giving the product to some but not others. All or nothing imo.

I don't know, I think I still have a problem with pharmacists refusing to give Plan-B because it needs to be used early.

 

[justabubba]

while i support & defend the right of any adult to buy the drugs/devices they believe they need, including the morning after pill, birth control pills, condoms, etc
i also support the right of any business owner to refuse to carry any item which they believe would be unconscionable to sell
no reasonable person would expect a kosher butcher to also be obligated to offer pork products

 

[Jerry]

That was uncalled for. Don't be a pig, this isn't /b/

...just say'n....

I don't know, I think I still have a problem with pharmacists refusing to give Plan-B because it needs to be used early.

What, so require private businesses to sell products? What other products are you going to require businesses to sell?

 

[Jerry]

...just say'n....

"Just" stop it.

What, so require private businesses to sell products? What other products are you going to require businesses to sell?

Whatever's in the public's interests I guess. We have to make hormonal BC available if we're to reduce unwanted teen pregnancy and abortion. It sucks but I don't see a better way.

 

[d0gbreath]

You've lost it Jerry.


Go look for it.

 

[Deuce]

While I don't think it's okay to let religious ideology dictate law, I don't think we should allow law to mandate business participation in the selling of any particular item.

Mandating that a pharmacy sell Drug X would be equatable to mandating that a tire store sell Brand X of tire, regardless of their reasoning for rejecting the sale of Brand X within their corporation.

It's a tricky situation.

No, it's not equatable to that because tires aren't pharmaceuticals.

Religion doesn't get to be a trump card over every regulation they happen to not like. After all, it goes against my religion for cars to have catalytic converters.

 

[Paschendale]

Why are so many people so afraid of women having sex without getting pregnant or wanting to get pregnant?

 

[JayDubya]

The hypocrisy of republican "small government" is killing me. [/COLOR][/FONT]

Wait, NOT dictating that folks must sell something is hypocritical from the perspective of "small government?"




Derp?

 

[nota bene]

Why are so many people so afraid of women having sex without getting pregnant or wanting to get pregnant?

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. Who is afraid of women having sex without becoming pregnant or wanting to be pregnant? Clarification please?