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Ok, then show me how I'm wrong. I will even admit I'm wrong and back down, but I'm not doing anything like that just yet.
Ok, then show me how I'm wrong. I will even admit I'm wrong and back down, but I'm not doing anything like that just yet.
The interesting thing is that many women don't actually get to ever see their children born. Yes, we experience it, but not really see it (not head and body out of the vagina anyway). I have two sons and I did not see my own hoohah while having them at all (not that I see this as a big problem). My husband was there for the first, and my sister saw both. He saw more than I did (the first glimpse I had of my firstborn was when the doctors and nurses (there were about 7-8 total in the room by the time he came out) were wrapping him in blankets as they moved him over to clean him up and do the apgar tests on him, I remember thinking I delivered a xenomorph from Aliens from that brief glimpse I had of him while they stitched me up). Pretty sure women don't even have this claimed right to see their child born considering doctors can put a woman under for a C-section if need be.
There is no right to see your child being born. There is right to access to the child, but even that is limited, especially if the couple having the child is not married to each other and/or separated. And considering that many hospitals are putting the babies in with the mother from birth to discharge now, the mother would even likely have a right to deny access to her room, limiting access to the child even more. This decision will always come down to the mother's right to decide who she wants in the delivery room (after the hospital clears that people can be there), no matter where she delivers that child (with the only exception being if she delivers in some unexpected place accidentally) because her privacy, comfort and stress level while delivering the child is always going to outweigh any access rights to the child the father of the child might want to claim. This is her medical procedure. The baby isn't included until the baby is born.
I have a question. IF the claim is that fathers have a right to be in the delivery room, then would that mean that all potential fathers would have that right? Could a very promiscuous woman with several potentials for the father of her child be forced to have all those men in the delivery room? DNA tests take a lot of time to come back. Are they going to order an amnio just to determine who has the real right to access the room? What about adopting parents who are chosen before the birth? Do they have a right to be in the delivery room with any delivering mother? What if the mother is underage? Or rapists? What about sperm donors?
Honestly, would it even really be a good idea for them to see it? From the medical training I've had with the Army, we're generally instructed not to allow persons who are in medical distress to look at parts of their bodies which might appear gruesome.
It can contribute to sending them into shock.
The interesting thing is that many women don't actually get to ever see their children born. Yes, we experience it, but not really see it (not head and body out of the vagina anyway). I have two sons and I did not see my own hoohah while having them at all (not that I see this as a big problem). My husband was there for the first, and my sister saw both. He saw more than I did (the first glimpse I had of my firstborn was when the doctors and nurses (there were about 7-8 total in the room by the time he came out) were wrapping him in blankets as they moved him over to clean him up and do the apgar tests on him, I remember thinking I delivered a xenomorph from Aliens from that brief glimpse I had of him while they stitched me up). Pretty sure women don't even have this claimed right to see their child born considering doctors can put a woman under for a C-section if need be.
There is no right to see your child being born. There is right to access to the child, but even that is limited, especially if the couple having the child is not married to each other and/or separated. And considering that many hospitals are putting the babies in with the mother from birth to discharge now, the mother would even likely have a right to deny access to her room, limiting access to the child even more. This decision will always come down to the mother's right to decide who she wants in the delivery room (after the hospital clears that people can be there), no matter where she delivers that child (with the only exception being if she delivers in some unexpected place accidentally) because her privacy, comfort and stress level while delivering the child is always going to outweigh any access rights to the child the father of the child might want to claim. This is her medical procedure. The baby isn't included until the baby is born.
They have special rooms in some hospitals called birthing rooms now, which are more comfortable than your typical hospital room for delivering your baby. I think you have to reserve them in advance though, but they have a mirror on the wall so that if you sit up, you could watch the baby be born.Kind of a cool option to have.
Proposed by whom and where, but more importantly how is it relevant?
I don't need a medical reason to be there and how in the hell am I acting towards her body by being in the room? Get real. Her right to her body doesn't extend towards the entirety of the room. She doesn't own the damn room. I can be where I damn well please, and I have a right to the child, just as she does. I have a right see my child being born, period.
I don't need a medical reason to be there and how in the hell am I acting towards her body by being in the room? Get real. Her right to her body doesn't extend towards the entirety of the room. She doesn't own the damn room. I can be where I damn well please, and I have a right to the child, just as she does. I have a right see my child being born, period.
No, you don't. Period.
Are you n the medical field?
If a mother is in immense pain, it will physiologically have a negative effect on the mother and possibly baby.
A mother stroking out from a hypertensive crisis due to excruciating pain is just FITH!
I do not think many of you appreciate the risks of childbirth and labor and delivery.
But on the pain control note, many women try for a natural childbirth. They may even go through classes to manage the pain and facilitate child birth. Of utmost importance is relaxation. Having an unwelcome observer seems like it is the polar opposite of attempting to maintain relaxation.
Seriously guys. Give it up. You want control and you cannot have it.
In the case of the man taking the pregnant woman to court....does anybody here think this was emotionally or physiologically a good thing for the mom (and baby that shares her life)
Unless you're the woman the state doesn't consider you having much rights at all. For that reason I don't care what they think.
If you aren't married really you have no right to her info. Even when you are there are still privacy laws in place. Technically it is not even legal to disclose medical info to a spouse unless they designate so.
Sounds like a temper tantrum.
Sounds like a temper tantrum.
Sounds more like I'm pissed off at the system.
A system that promotes privacy and allows a woman at her most vulnerable to not to become more stressed out - which may cause rise in heart rate and blood pressure and possible stroke.
Yup, that would piss anyone off!:roll:
Unless you're the woman the state doesn't consider you having much rights at all. For that reason I don't care what they think.
That is such a crock. You do know that there are some MEN who have custody of their children? I used to baby sit for a guy who had custody of all 3 of his children. Just because the mother may not wish for you to be in the room with her during the delivery does not mean you don't have any "rights." That is not a right anyway. It's like having someone in the room with you when having surgery. It would be YOUR decision.
What are the chances of that? Is there like a huge number of women dieing because the father was in the room that I'm unaware of?
Gosh, how do they even deal with the stress of the doctor being in the room? Jesus, those women be dieing with all that stress. Oh right, that doesn't happen.
There is no surgery taking place. It's called giving birth, which is a natural process of the womans body.
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