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New Covid variant allegedly coming back

There will still be new covid variants until long after we are all dead. Nothing new under the sun.

I had the vaccine and the booster when it first came out. It was useful back then since I had no desire to continue to hide myself away from the rest of humanity. Have had covid twice since then 12/22 and 5/24 - both were complete non events. Maybe the vax had something to do with that, maybe not. But personally I don't see the point in vaccinating myself going forward at this point in time.

Doesn't mean I think the vax is a "death jab" or other complete Internet stupidity.
 
I don't mean to say that the jab will cause literal death. I call it death jab as a figure of speech to show how much I despise it.
 
Tiny said:
I don't mean to say that the jab will cause literal death. I call it death jab as a figure of speech to show how much I despise it.
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Fair enough but you kinda have to expect people to take you at your word when all they have to go on is your words.

If I may ask why do you despise it? Is there a scientific basis for that? Do you literally think it's dangerous? Or is it more you just don't want it shoved down your throat?
 
Tiny said:
They call it XEC. See link:

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...nt-makes-headlines/3550632/?os=avefgi&ref=app

You know what this means. They are pushing their newer, more souped up version of Covid "vaccines".

Get ready to protect your loved ones from the Covid death jabs and don't listen to CDC, Health Canada, or the equivalent of them in Europe.
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I took the Janssen "One-shot and Done" option back in 06/2021.

I only did that as a requirement to keep my job, otherwise I would not have done so. I have no intention of worrying about this disease, and since I am now retired, I don't have to do anything I don't want to.
 
Eh. I won't be getting the vax. I did get the tax and one booster for the first variant way back when but then I just sort of kept forgetting to get the next booster and it just never happened after that. I did get covid after that period and it was fairly bad but nothing like when I had it before vaxes were available.

Subsequent strains seem to be weaker. AFAIK.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I see the plague rat mentality is alive and well.
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Craig234 said:
OP is a menace to your health. Get the vaccines.
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Yep. Covid still kills, especially among the immune-compromised and the over-65 age group.

We never know whether a more easily-transmitted and/or a more lethal strain is in our future.

"Winter is coming"....many of us will be spending more time indoors.

AND don't forget the seasonal flu shot.
 
Gaius46 said:
Fair enough but you kinda have to expect people to take you at your word when all they have to go on is your words.

If I may ask why do you despise it? Is there a scientific basis for that? Do you literally think it's dangerous? Or is it more you just don't want it shoved down your throat?
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Thank you sir for genuinely trying to understand my position. I wish more were like you.

I despise the jabs because of how much the mainstream media (including Facebook, twitter) and the world governments were pushing them. It really made me question what was really in the vaccines. I wonder why they wanted us to take them so badly. I don't believe that a bunch of strangers in Ottawa care about our health that much.
 
Tiny said:
Thank you sir for genuinely trying to understand my position. I wish more were like you.

I despise the jabs because of how much the mainstream media (including Facebook, twitter) and the world governments were pushing them. It really made me question what was really in the vaccines. I wonder why they wanted us to take them so badly. I don't believe that a bunch of strangers in Ottawa care about our health that much.
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It could be the case that world governments and msm were trying to save lives when they promoted uptake of the covid vaccines.
 
Gaius46 said:
Fair enough but you kinda have to expect people to take you at your word when all they have to go on is your words.

If I may ask why do you despise it? Is there a scientific basis for that? Do you literally think it's dangerous? Or is it more you just don't want it shoved down your throat?
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it's the conservative fear mentality and it rears its ugly head in politics.
Nothing more.
 
At my next appt, my doctor will bring up whatever shots and stuff I might need and we will talk about them.

Don’t really care what a rando on the internet says.

To me, that seems like a common sense approach to the subject.
 
Pyrite said:
It could be the case that world governments and msm were trying to save lives when they promoted uptake of the covid vaccines.
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You are free to believe those actors are benevolent. I am free to believe they are not.
 
Tiny said:
Thank you sir for genuinely trying to understand my position. I wish more were like you.

I despise the jabs because of how much the mainstream media (including Facebook, twitter) and the world governments were pushing them. It really made me question what was really in the vaccines. I wonder why they wanted us to take them so badly. I don't believe that a bunch of strangers in Ottawa care about our health that much.
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your reasoning is IRRATIONAL
 
Captain Adverse said:
I took the Janssen "One-shot and Done" option back in 06/2021.

I only did that as a requirement to keep my job, otherwise I would not have done so. I have no intention of worrying about this disease, and since I am now retired, I don't have to do anything I don't want to.
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Thank you sir for your support.

Don't you feel that it was wrong to threaten people with their livelihood like that?
 
It is a virus.
Mutating into new variants is what a virus does, and will continue to do.
And I for one will get the new vaccine shot.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I took the Janssen "One-shot and Done" option back in 06/2021.

I only did that as a requirement to keep my job, otherwise I would not have done so. I have no intention of worrying about this disease, and since I am now retired, I don't have to do anything I don't want to.
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This attitude is such a dumb **** piece of false macho nonsense. Do you feel this way about seatbelts? Gonna tough guy your way out of physics too? LOL.
 
Tiny said:
Thank you sir for your support.

Don't you feel that it was wrong to threaten people with their livelihood like that?
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Don't you feel that it is wrong to endanger your own life and that of others because you're worried that getting a vaccine makes you less of a big manly man?
 
Pay Big Pharma. Collectivists love you .
 
My wife and I are okay with annual shots since we frequently visit our increasingly elderly parents whom we adore and love and want to spend time with, and the vaccines provably reduce viral load in the event of an infection at very little cost to ourselves. Of course, we’re selfless in that way but accept that smaller people may be more selfish.

If other diminutive posters don’t care about nor feel any love for their parents or immunosuppressed loved ones… and don’t care if they die horribly because prevention of their painful death would have resulted in a minor inconvenience to said small-of-stature posters, well, that’s up to them.
 
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Deuce said:
This attitude is such a dumb **** piece of false macho nonsense. Do you feel this way about seatbelts? Gonna tough guy your way out of physics too? LOL.
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This kind of response is why I typically don't respond to people like you. So smugly superior and all-knowingly judgmental.

But no, the reason why I didn't feel a need to get a Covid shot was because I had a serious hospitalization incident with the Flu when I was 5 years old. I recovered and have never caught either a cold or a version of the Flu since. I had no need of a vaccination.

Now, back to permanent tagline time you go. (n):coffee:
 
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Tiny said:
Thank you sir for genuinely trying to understand my position. I wish more were like you.

I despise the jabs because of how much the mainstream media (including Facebook, twitter) and the world governments were pushing them. It really made me question what was really in the vaccines. I wonder why they wanted us to take them so badly. I don't believe that a bunch of strangers in Ottawa care about our health that much.
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Np. If I just wanted to hear opinions that I agreed with I wouldn't be here.

So I understand what you're saying and I don't think that Washington cares about me all that much either but they don't have to to have a good reason to push the vaccines. It's in any government's best interest to have a functioning working class. I think you can simply enough explain the push for vaccines on the fact that it was better for the country as a whole - and costs the government a lot less money - to have had the pandemic done with as soon as possible.

Certainly money may have come into it. Pfizer, for one, made something like 37 billion off of covid vaccines in 2022. Could Pharma be overselling vaccines at this point in time? Certainly possible. I don't recall ever hearing of RSV vaccines before last year for example. Which is why I won't just blindly accept any vaccination that gets peddled by Pharma companies. I trust my doc and if she thinks I should get a particular vaccine I will seriously consider it.
 
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