Netanyahu Says Israel to Take Over All Gaza, Start Aid Flows

[Apocalypse]

Obviously the tens of thousands murdered by the rogue state terrorist army show the population has been the subject of a genocidal attack with the rogue state leaders coming out with dozens of comments showing intent and incitement to commit genocide.

Israel deliberately killed tens of thousands of Hamas terrorists. The rest who have been killed have tragically died as a direct result of Hamas' actions. That's hardly a genocide. The US and allies have caused over 400,000 civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq and it wasn't a genocide back then either. The Allied forces in WWII were not guilty of genocide either regardless of the millions of dead Germans.

They got the peace deal they offered in 1971 off the back of attacking Israel, as I said violence is the only currency Israel has

Israel offered Sinai in return prior to 1973 war. And the Egyptians did lose it. This history revisionism is beside the point.

And if you really wanted a two state solution why build illegal settlements in the first place? So as to annex territory, we got there in the end even if you had to be dragged kicking and screaming lol

If Israel doesn't force Palestinian demands over these lands where the settlements exist it means it works against the two states solution? Then how was it offered? Not caving in to demands from the other side does not mean you don't want a conclusive agreement. That's just stupid.

Blah blah, antisemitism , it's a pathetic misuse and you know it, you just don't care about throwing other Jews under the bus in service to your Jewish supremacist claptrap.

It's actually very accurate.

 

[Apocalypse]

Your shilling is better than your stand up and that's piss poor lol

Your recognition of good comedy is probably as good as your ability to grasp the concept of facts.

 

[oneworld2]

Your recognition of good comedy is probably as good as your ability to grasp the concept of facts.

All I do is facts, all you do is deny them with ridiculous accusations of antisemitism for any who present them well enough to debunk your daily propaganda screeds here.

The facts are what destroy your garbage here.

 

[oneworld2]

Israel deliberately killed tens of thousands of Hamas terrorists. The rest who have been killed have tragically died as a direct result of Hamas' actions. That's hardly a genocide. The US and allies have caused over 400,000 civilian deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq and it wasn't a genocide back then either. The Allied forces in WWII were not guilty of genocide either regardless of the millions of dead Germans.

You have no idea how many of those killed are Hamas fighters, not the only legitimate targets Israel has, Hamas civilian worker murders are murders just like the civilian ones outside of Hamas. This is the law and it's not surprising that you either don't know it or are deliberately misrepresenting it.

I don't recall the others denying food . fuel, water and meds to the people they were illegally occupying. I don't recall their leaders spouting genocidal incitements at the same time as their illegal occupations .

I don't recall those leaders stating that the populations should be removed from the lands either

People die and are killed, murdered in wars but genocide has its own criteria and Israel is ticking the boxes.

The ICJ will call this a genocide, not because they hate Jews or Israelis, but because it's obviously an ethnic cleansing genocidal attack aimed at clearing the Palestinians from the Strip so it can be absorbed, illegally, like the other Palestinian lands have been absorbed into the Israeli state.

 

[Gardener]

All I do is facts, all you do is deny them with ridiculous accusations of antisemitism for any who present them well enough to debunk your daily propaganda screeds here.

The facts are what destroy your garbage here.

Your steadfast support for Hamas reveals you to be the least libertarian poster imaginable.

 

[oneworld2]

Israel offered Sinai in return prior to 1973 war. And the Egyptians did lose it. This history revisionism is beside the point.

Citation?

If Israel doesn't force Palestinian demands over these lands where the settlements exist it means it works against the two states solution?

The settlements are illegal, all of them including in East Jerusalem, that Israel wants to hang onto them and has already illegally annexed East Jerusalem is one of the biggest obstacles to the two state solution and no amount of spin from you alters that. You support the illegal settlements and illegal annexations so stop trying to dupe people about what their presence and history have brought about vis a vis a two state solution.

Then how was it offered? Not caving in to demands from the other side does not mean you don't want a conclusive agreement. That's just stupid.

It was offered after Israel kept many of the settlements/most of the settlers and subjugated Palestinian security, water and economic/cultural to protecting those illegal settlements/settlers.

What's stupid is thinking you can murder and abuse people into accepting this.

It's actually very accurate.

No it's a cop out from addressing their points.

 

[oneworld2]

Your steadfast support for Hamas reveals you to be the least libertarian poster imaginable.

Whatever, I don't take the whines of Islamophobic posters here the least bit seriously.

 

[Apocalypse]

Citation?

Golda Meir offered Egypt most of Sinai for peace before 1973 war

New documents show Israel's proposal, conveyed via West German channels months before the Yom Kippur War, was bluntly rejected

www.timesofisrael.com

The settlements are illegal, all of them including in East Jerusalem, that Israel wants to hang onto them and has already illegally annexed East Jerusalem is one of the biggest obstacles to the two state solution and no amount of spin from you alters that. You support the illegal settlements and illegal annexations so stop trying to dupe people about what their presence and history have brought about vis a vis a two state solution.

Nonsense.

It was offered after Israel kept many of the settlements/most of the settlers and subjugated Palestinian security

And you said the two state was impossible somehow due to what predates the offer. As usual you can't handle factual discussion, it ends your arguments.

 

[Apocalypse]

You have no idea how many of those killed are Hamas fighters, not the only legitimate targets Israel has, Hamas civilian worker murders are murders just like the civilian ones outside of Hamas. This is the law and it's not surprising that you either don't know it or are deliberately misrepresenting it.

Anyone associated with Hamas and part of Hamas' organization is a terrorist. 'Civilian workers' who are Hamas members and do their part allowing the terror organization to exist and exert its evil are not combatants but are very much terrorists.

I don't recall the others denying food . fuel, water and meds to the people they were illegally occupying.

Israel distributes aid to Gazan civilians as we speak does it not?

People die and are killed, murdered in wars but genocide has its own criteria and Israel is ticking the boxes.

Genocide without any targeting of civilians, and when Israel actually goes out of its way to warn civilians prior to strikes, is such a ridiculous accusation only antisemites are capable of using it.

The ICJ will call this a genocide

They can claim the Earth is flat and Israel had it flattened too. They have the same credit every other UN body has.

 

[Apocalypse]

All I do is facts

Saying "the antisemites from the UN think like I do" is not a supporting fact of any argument you were trying to make. You always fail at factual discussions, that's why you've never won a single argument in your time here.

 

[oneworld2]

Golda Meir offered Egypt most of Sinai for peace before 1973 war

New documents show Israel's proposal, conveyed via West German channels months before the Yom Kippur War, was bluntly rejected

www.timesofisrael.com

Meirs offer was..........

A After Sadats offer

B Didn't include giving Egypt back all of its illegally occupied territory

C Egypt got back all of its territory AFTER it had attacked Israel in 1973

As I said and as the above breakdown also confirms, the ONLY currency Israel understands is violence. It tried to dupe the Egyptians they reacted violently and so Israel decided to give back what it wanted to hold illegally.

Nonsense.

Not nonsense at all and that's why you didn't even attempt to refute any of it.

And you said the two state was impossible somehow due to what predates the offer. As usual you can't handle factual discussion, it ends your arguments.

Correct, the continuance of the illegal Israeli settlements precedes the offers. It's not rocket science to understand that so I assume you are just engaging in nonsense yourself.

 

[Apocalypse]

Meirs offer was..........

Offering most of Sinai (nearly all of it) to Sadat prior to 1973.
Just like Israel offered the Golan back during the 90s.

Uncovered 90s memo shows Netanyahu's willingness to give up Golan Heights

British National Archive documents reveal then-newly minted premier was willing to engage with the Syrians on the principle of 'land for peace' agreements

www.ynetnews.com

Israel always chose peace over lands, just like it did after the 1973 victory over the Egyptians. I understand why it might hurt the feelings of antisemites.

Correct, the continuance of the illegal Israeli settlements precedes the offers. It's not rocket science to understand that so I assume you are just engaging in nonsense yourself.

So how do you attempt to promote the lie that the settlements "killed" the two-states solution if the offer was not predating them? Weird.

 

[oneworld2]

Offering most of Sinai (nearly all of it) to Sadat prior to 1973.

This is the Israeli way, they try to keep other peoples land illegally, hence why they didn't offer all of the land they were illegally occupying and Egypt, via the 1973 war, forced their hand into giving it all back. Israel only understands violence as a currency

Just like Israel offered the Golan back during the 90s.

Uncovered 90s memo shows Netanyahu's willingness to give up Golan Heights

British National Archive documents reveal then-newly minted premier was willing to engage with the Syrians on the principle of 'land for peace' agreements

www.ynetnews.com

from your own link lol.......

The efforts eventually failed, since Syria wanted to pick the talk up where they were previously left off, while Israel offered new ideas that did not necessarily include withdrawal from the Golan Heights.

Anyone familiar with Israeli politics will understand this cynical duplicity of always being for peace as they steal other peoples lands

Israel always chose peace over lands, just like it did after the 1973 victory over the Egyptians. I understand why it might hurt the feelings of antisemites.

Nope they lie about it, they want land

So how do you attempt to promote the lie that the settlements "killed" the two-states solution if the offer was not predating them? Weird.

It's embarrassing that you are still peddling this nonsense.

The settlements predate any offers, that Israel wants to hang onto most of them and thus make the Palestinian state nonviable is the reason why they killed the two state solution

 

[Apocalypse]

This is the Israeli way, they try to keep other peoples land illegally, hence why they didn't offer all of the land they were illegally occupying and Egypt, via the 1973 war, forced their hand into giving it all back. Israel only understands violence as a currency




from your own link lol.......



Anyone familiar with Israeli politics will understand this cynical duplicity of always being for peace as they steal other peoples lands

Evidently Israel has given up large sizes of lands following its victory over the Egyptians, in return for peace. As much as it pisses you off this is simply history.

The settlements predate any offers

Hence you're wrong.

 

[oneworld2]

Evidently Israel has given up large sizes of lands following its victory over the Egyptians, in return for peace. As much as it pisses you off this is simply history.

Hence you're wrong.

Vacuous and dishonest garbage from you again.

They tried to keep some Egyptian land and Sadat forced them to give it all back. That's the fact of the matter regardless of how you try to frame it.

 

[Apocalypse]

Vacuous and dishonest garbage from you again.

They tried to keep some Egyptian land and Sadat forced them to give it all back. That's the fact of the matter regardless of how you try to frame it.

Evidently following the victory over Egypt and Syria in 1973, Israel decided to choose lands for peace approach. Evidently this pisses you off.

 

[bythoughts]

According to one source the 5 aid trucks were made up of 3 trucks with actual aid on them and two trucks full of death shrouds.

I didn't see that when you posted it, but I was just asking Perplexity when Gaza was going to run out of shrouds and it tells me, no they won't... and here's a reference. I got to hand it to the Israeli government - just because they're monstrous psychopaths doesn't mean that isn't damned funny. It ain't my fault it's funny.

 

[pedex]

So you would promote Israel starving the people of Gaza to death because a grain of rice or a pinch of flour might go to feeding Hamas? Why not just bomb and kill absolutely everybody in the Strip? Why not just round up and shoot every single man, woman and child in the head just to be sure? Especially the children, because they are future Hamas recruits.

If we are going to dehumanize and objectify the civilian population of Gaza and call them "human shields" then let us just say that a full-on scouring and wiping out of Gaza's civilians is merely "striking and degrading Hamas's defenses."

That's essentially what's going on.