You honestly think that a generation all of a sudden having off the charts identification as pansexual, gender fluid and so on is simply due to social acceptance, that we would have seen the same thing throughout human history if it would have been socially acceptable?
Sexual desire is a spectrum. I've posted some material below so you can read up on it.
www.google.com
Yeah, that poll sucks.
Allow me to rephrase that for you: Your anecdotal experience aside, 1 in 5 is 20%. But, I'm thinking the more societies stigmas concerning lgbtq lessen, the more folks are going to feel comfortable admitting it. But, who knows, maybe 40% is shorting the actual numbers.....
IMHO, All that has changed is the lessening of the social stigma against being LGBTQ which has led to more people feeling comfortable enough to openly admit it. I think the human race will survive.
Okay, lets say its 1 in 5, with the vast majority of the gains coming from those identifying as Bs and Qs, do you think that changes the points laid out in the opening post? You still have the problem that a solid majority of women are unwilling to date a man identifying as bisexual, and even lower numbers are willing to date someone gender fluid or pansexual.
Yeah. I was talking to a friend's teenage kid a while back and she mentioned that more than half the kids in her class identified as something other than straight. When I asked if that was more reality or more attention seeking they just grinned and said they figured the vast majority of it was attention seeking or acceptance seeking.
Is it your claim that all these folks identifying as LGBTQ is going to be detrimental to man's survival?
Of course not, and I never said that in the opening post either. My point is that most people instinctually want a romantic relationship - at some point, gay or straight, we all want to pair up with someone and build a relationship. When you have a large percentage of a generation identifying as a B or Q (whether it is 20% or 40% really doesn't matter that is a lot of people either way), and that identification of B or Q makes them much less appealing to date and form romantic relationships by most people (right or wrong, that is the case), then that is a problem.
What's the problem?
Even if its just 20%, that is an exceptionally high number. It seems your point is that 40% would be a big deal but 20% of a generation having trouble dating and forming romantic relationships is not a problem.
Humans almost universally instinctually want romantic relationships. That is a psychological need that the vast majority of people have. You don't see an issue with large numbers of a generation may not be able to meet that need?
Oh, so you believe that LGBTQ folks don't form romantic relationships? I'm sorry, but there's no evidence of this.
www.google.com
Why is it a problem?
LGBTQ folks are just like everyone else. The same needs and wants and desires. Where did you ever get the idea they were so different from straight folks?
When did I argue that? In fact, I pointed out that its not an issue for gay people as gay people want to date other gay people.Oh, so you believe that LGBTQ folks don't form romantic relationships? I'm sorry, but there's no evidence of this.
Asexuality, Attraction, and Romantic Orientation
Asexual – A term used to describe someone who does not experience sexual attraction toward individuals of any gender. Asexuality is a sexual orientation, and is different from celibacy...
I think that is kind of the point. We have a generation that thinks they can have it all, but you can't, that is the point. If you are gender fluid, pansexual, or bisexual, and you want to form long term romantic relationships, which most people do, at some point, you may realize you can't have it all, you have to pick a preference and go with it. For example, if you are bisexual and want to marry a woman, than at some point, you are probably going to have to decide that you are going to be functionally heterosexual otherwise you will have a hard time finding someone to date. If you are a gender fluid female but you want to marry or date a man some day, you are going to have to pick the female gender to identify as. This is far from true for everyone, but a significant number of Bs and Qs in Gen Z will end up figuring out they have pick something.Why is it a problem?
They won’t date.
So they’ll either change their behavior to be more attractive to those they want to date…or they won’t date.
Show in the thread where I made that argument. The fact they have the same needs, wants and desires is exactly my point.
You mean eventually they will have to “settle down” if they want to be in a long term monogamous relationship?
There is a huge difference in prior generations. You didn't have between 2 and 4 in 10 identifying as B or Q (LGBTQ). This generation is having sex and dating far less than previous generations, there is a reason for that.You mean eventually they will have to “settle down” if they want to be in a long term monogamous relationship?
Well, that’s pretty self explanatory.
I don’t see much difference than in prior generations.