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Nation’s Largest Teachers Union Says It Will Teach Critical Race Theory In All 50 States, 14,000 School Districts

I don't need to name laws that discriminate; only to observe that they're applied unequally. It's not exactly a shocker: if it a certain race is seen as more prone to committing crimes, more resources will be put to policing that race's communities, and they're going to get hit disproportionately to other races. And of course, being targeted by law enforcement is going to devastate those communities' economies.
That's why business loans Biden proposed were deemed discriminatory by the courts. This Is the thoughts of Bidens laws applied unequally or will be. The same with teaching CRT in schools.
 
So what? Narratives change to fit the available info. Today's argument that CRT is only being discussed at graduate levels will become moot if the NEA succeeds.

I'm not saying anything different (it's not being taught currently) but if that's a major reason to not be concerned over CRT then the NEA just threw cold water on that point. They're expecting to see it in 14,000 school districts. Districts that oversee K-12 education. So much for college level discussions only.
The headline of the DailyWire article and the content of said article do not match,.
 
Which isn't history, but indoctrination to the far left politics. I'm glad, parents and some teachers have been vocal about it and many states are looking to ban such teachings.
Opinion noted.
 
That's why business loans Biden proposed were deemed discriminatory by the courts. This Is the thoughts of Bidens laws applied unequally or will be. The same with teaching CRT in schools.

Thats absurd. Nothing is applied "unequally" by teaching about racism in schools.
 
Along with law enforcement and the justice system.


I wasn't saying that, but yes, that is actually the case, now that you mention it.




Narratives correlating black people and crime. It's a favorite of networks like Fox News.



Case in point.



There are multiple components in the system that perpetuate poverty and crime, to which I've listed nine reforms. Mind you, they hardly constitute all the solutions, but they are examples of policies that we, the voters, actually have some control over.

1) Eliminate mandatory minimums and return sentencing discretion back to judges.
2) Ban private prisons.
3) Ban slave labor in prisons.
4) Give full voting power back to ex felons.
5) Ban the ex felon question on job applications.
6) Ban asset forfeiture.
7) Legalize drugs (end the war on drugs).
8) End bail for non-flight risk crimes.
9) End voter suppression.

If your race is feared or distrusted by society, the above practices will squeeze you like a vise and perpetuate the cycle of poverty.




If you're in prison, are you making a living for yourself or your family?



You're assuming a fair system. If the system was fair and applied fairly, then I could agree with that.


A moot point if black people are targeted disproportionately for law enforcement due to being seen as inherently criminal.

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THE CYCLE OF POVERTY TO WHICH YOU REFER IS THE RESULT OF YOUR CYCLE OF DENIAL


BLAMING OTHERS AGAIN (1)


No it isn’t Fax News that has made people of all races in America more afraid in the presence of a Black man than in the presence of an Asian man.

You know very well that Blacks are more violent. Cops are more on edge when they interrogate or arrest a Black suspect because Black Blacks have the highest rate of killing cops. I can dig up the stats if you choose to deny my claim.

BLAMING OTHERS AGAIN (2)

The first 8 of your 9 components do not “squeeze [the Black man particularly] like a vise and perpetuate the cycle of poverty”.

That was very poetic but it has no relevance to reality. Again, you are blaming others for acts that caused people to get themselves sent to prison. Don’t commit crime, don’t go to jail, get a job, and you will not become the subject of Cardinal’s Poetry Readings.

The ninth component of your listing is, indeed, discriminatory but to be accurate its goal is not to discriminate against Blacks – its goal is to suppress the Democratic vote. And if you think that the 77 million people who voted for Biden were Black then you need to do some serious research.

BLAMING OTHERS AGAIN (3)

I just find it amusing that you can sit there and whine about people getting tough sentences when incarcerated.

That’s like a thief who gets 3 years complaining about a rapist who only got 2 years and saying “why did I get 3 years; what I did wasn’t as bad as what he did!”

It’s laughable. You committed a crime and now you whine about the sentence; ha ha ha.

Roger Stone’s lawyer complained about his original sentence being too long because his crimes were just technicalities. To me it was laughable; they shouldn’t have cut Stone any slack. But it helps to be connected and to have money – just like Jussie Smollett.

BLAMING OTHERS AGAIN (4)

You claim that “black people are targeted disproportionately for law enforcement due to being seen as inherently criminals.”

Well you can’t prove this nationwide but even if we accept it as truth isn’t there a good reason for it? Or are you sticking with the narrative that Fox News tricks people into thinking that Blacks are the most violent criminals out there while it isn’t true but that Asians, Hispanics, Arabs, Jews are more violent than Blacks?
 
The headline of the DailyWire article and the content of said article do not match,.
Close enough to make my point.
"The nation’s largest teacher union pledged to teach critical race theory — the ideology that claims America is irredeemably rooted in racism — in all 50 states and across the more than 14,000 school districts the union works with." -- from the article

And my point has nothing to do with supporting or criticizing CRT but makes an observation about the narrative defending CRT.
 
Along with law enforcement and the justice system.


I wasn't saying that, but yes, that is actually the case, now that you mention it.




Narratives correlating black people and crime. It's a favorite of networks like Fox News.



Case in point.



There are multiple components in the system that perpetuate poverty and crime, to which I've listed nine reforms. Mind you, they hardly constitute all the solutions, but they are examples of policies that we, the voters, actually have some control over.

1) Eliminate mandatory minimums and return sentencing discretion back to judges.
2) Ban private prisons.
3) Ban slave labor in prisons.
4) Give full voting power back to ex felons.
5) Ban the ex felon question on job applications.
6) Ban asset forfeiture.
7) Legalize drugs (end the war on drugs).
8) End bail for non-flight risk crimes.
9) End voter suppression.

If your race is feared or distrusted by society, the above practices will squeeze you like a vise and perpetuate the cycle of poverty.




If you're in prison, are you making a living for yourself or your family?



You're assuming a fair system. If the system was fair and applied fairly, then I could agree with that.


A moot point if black people are targeted disproportionately for law enforcement due to being seen as inherently criminal.

(Part 2 of 2)



YOUR REPORT

Your attached report suggests that Blacks received harsher sentences than Whites with similar violent backgrounds.

The report does not account for other criminal history that may appear on the defendants’ RAP Sheets.

It doesn’t tell us that it is a state-by-state comparison. As such, harsher sentencing guidelines of some states can skew aggregate federal tabulation that would otherwise have been a true comparison.

It also does not account for the fact that Whites may be able to afford better lawyers than Blacks.

I spent one night in jail a long time ago and I was amazed by something that a young Black man, who was in a neighboring cell, said.

He could have avoided staying in jail until his trial date by paying $700 bail. But he chose to stay in jail because “you know how much weed I can get with that $700?” I’m not making this up; I was stunned when I heard it. I was in there for twelve hours and I absolutely hated it – you’re damned right I would have paid $700 to get out.

And some of the Blacks who were being held were actually trying to out-do each other with sports-talk and they were genuinely enjoying their selves. The only thing on my mind was getting out of there and these guys were practically having a party.

STATISTICS

Statistics can be deceptive.

I’m sure you’ve heard the one that says that in the US women make 71 cents to every dollar made by a man.

When that stat was released it was actually true.

What they did not tell you was that the accounting used by the IRS to make this finding, examined all of the money made by men in the US and all of the money made by women in the US and they compared to two.

It did not account for overtime, profession type, education level, age or absolutely any other criterion.

My point is that you are eager to accept the findings of one report that presents something to you in a manner that makes it easy to draw a desired conclusion. Actually we all have done this. Hopefully with time you shall learn not to be so trusting of statistics. They are very easy to manipulate in terms of presentation to convince us of any narrative.
 
This kind of puts a monkey wrench into the narrative that CRT isn't being taught in any K-12 classroom but that CRT is a graduate level topic for discussion.
Yeah. I wonder if the NEA realized what kind of a massive donation-in-kind they just made to the GOP. If they actually attempt to start pushing this stuff from the national level....

....well, that's how the GOP wins back the Suburbs.
 
Yeah. I wonder if the NEA realized what kind of a massive donation-in-kind they just made to the GOP. If they actually attempt to start pushing this stuff from the national level....

....well, that's how the GOP wins back the Suburbs.
Not only that, but the GOP will gain even more support of school choice, which had already been gaining support even before this.
 
Not only that, but the GOP will gain even more support of school choice, which had already been gaining support even before this.
That would be excellent, especially if the GOP wants to start winning larger portions of minority voters. Teachers Unions burned through a lot of public goodwill during COVID. I guess they decided to set the rest on fire?
 
Close enough to make my point.

And my point has nothing to do with supporting or criticizing CRT but makes an observation about the narrative defending CRT.
You quoted a lie from the article. It's Daily Mail for ****'s sake.
 
Not only that, but the GOP will gain even more support of school choice, which had already been gaining support even before this.
Meh. What WON'T you people believe? The article in the OP is designed to affect your behavior.
 
(Part 2 of 2)



YOUR REPORT

Your attached report suggests that Blacks received harsher sentences than Whites with similar violent backgrounds.

The report does not account for other criminal history that may appear on the defendants’ RAP Sheets.

It doesn’t tell us that it is a state-by-state comparison. As such, harsher sentencing guidelines of some states can skew aggregate federal tabulation that would otherwise have been a true comparison.

It also does not account for the fact that Whites may be able to afford better lawyers than Blacks.

I spent one night in jail a long time ago and I was amazed by something that a young Black man, who was in a neighboring cell, said.

He could have avoided staying in jail until his trial date by paying $700 bail. But he chose to stay in jail because “you know how much weed I can get with that $700?” I’m not making this up; I was stunned when I heard it. I was in there for twelve hours and I absolutely hated it – you’re damned right I would have paid $700 to get out.

And some of the Blacks who were being held were actually trying to out-do each other with sports-talk and they were genuinely enjoying their selves. The only thing on my mind was getting out of there and these guys were practically having a party.

STATISTICS

Statistics can be deceptive.

I’m sure you’ve heard the one that says that in the US women make 71 cents to every dollar made by a man.

When that stat was released it was actually true.

What they did not tell you was that the accounting used by the IRS to make this finding, examined all of the money made by men in the US and all of the money made by women in the US and they compared to two.

It did not account for overtime, profession type, education level, age or absolutely any other criterion.

My point is that you are eager to accept the findings of one report that presents something to you in a manner that makes it easy to draw a desired conclusion. Actually we all have done this. Hopefully with time you shall learn not to be so trusting of statistics. They are very easy to manipulate in terms of presentation to convince us of any narrative.
So everything you learned about race and the justice system you learned from a guy you were in jail with who used his money on weed instead of bail.

This is why you don't use anecdotes to support your argument.
 
This reads like a teachers union putting out an education campaign about what an academic theory is and then telling its members to fight back on attempts to restrict teaching anything else inappropriately wrapped up in the social discussions.
 
So what? Narratives change to fit the available info. Today's argument that CRT is only being discussed at graduate levels will become moot if the NEA succeeds.

Except not. First you have a very decentralized system when it comes to the devising of social studies standards. We never had anything like Common Core for social studies. We tried it in the mid-90s and the project crashed and burned before any state really picked up the efforts. Second, as I said before, most social studies standards are incredibly bland documents that do very little to tell anybody what to teach anyone at any age (https://fordhaminstitute.org/sites/...dards-civics-and-us-history-20210.pdf#page=15).

Second, you have textbooks. The textbooks are far less "radical" on the left or the right than one would suppose, given the heightened nature of political discussions about history in the classrooms.

Third, you have teachers. Teachers have a variety of opinions and those opinions filter into their lessons. And yeah, there's 3.7 million of them, and a lot of them are conservatives or right wingers of various stripes. And, they aren't exactly the most intellectually exposed people (hence why the NEA is even having a "what is CRT" discussion for only the most attentive teachers on their membership lists).

Fourth, you have students. Students aren't going to really be getting into the nitty gritty details of any theoretical framework. Maybe, just maybe, little nuggets will get in there here or there (like most of the traditional national mythos does).

The nature of education is as such where the conceptional frameworks may seem bold, very consequential, etc., and they very well can be. But, we need to remember that what we are talking about on a base level is 5 days a week, 50 minute slots (and we aren't going a full 50 on course content), one or so week units, where students aren't studiously reading textbooks or other source materials. They are probably hunting for "the right answers" on a series of basic worksheets where students are matching names and definitions, some short answers here or there. Quiz. Test. Rinse repeat. The historical narrative devices that your kids' school textbook might be intentional (read the introductory materials in school American history textbooks sometime), but you really have to be skeptical that either the instructor or the student are going to be catching on to that and entering into a dialogue with that design (including whether they agree with the framework or not).
 
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I struggle to think how any law that bans teaching CRT can't just be gotten around by changing the label of the lesson plan.
Particularly when Republicans don't actually even know what it is.

What's hilarious here is that CRT wasn't ever really taught at the high school level in the past, but this stupid bullshit is likely going to lead to that happening more so now.
 
People who defend CRT can't even describe what it is.

If I banned Thetans from the planet Xenu, they'd just snicker at the ridiculousness of it. But if I ban CRT, you fight it tooth and nail.

What is it, exactly, about CRT that you all think it MUST be taught in schools and to our children?
Xenu isn't a planet, Xenu is an evil galactic overlord.
 
Looks like NEA has since erased that pledge from their website.

Hopefully they'll pull back from conducing oppositional research against people who complain about this stuff showing up in their kid's backpacks, as well.
 
Looks like NEA has since erased that pledge from their website.

Hopefully they'll pull back from conducing oppositional research against people who complain about this stuff showing up in their kid's backpacks, as well.

I think the whole thing is overblown, personally, mostly because I think conservatives over-interpreted what was being said and even if the NEA was guilty as charged, anyone who spends enough time researching the impact of educational studies or even small or large investments to change institutional practices in education, the results don't speak kindly to embarking on those endeavors. Federal government funding gets a bit of impact, but not so much, and small grant funded projects from non-goverment entities (like what this seemed to be) are often a waste of time, akin to some of Campus Reform's efforts. So, I rate it as "rah rah" material for culture warriors on the left and the right and not much more.
 
You quoted a lie from the article. It's Daily Mail for ****'s sake.
It matched the headline. Close enough for me.

Like I said, I'm not commenting on CRT but commenting on a CRT narrative. In this case it's the "CRT is graduate level stuff" narrative vs. the counter point "CRT is about to quit being graduate level stuff" narrative.
 
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