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Nate Silver now givers Bernie a round 0% chance; time to drop out

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OK, how can we spell "it's over" any clearer?

538's Nate Silver has downgrade Bernie's chances to a round zero.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? | FiveThirtyEight

Biden is now projected to finish with 2,436 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out until the end. Such huge popular vote difference (so far, +1,472,542 and counting) and plenty of pledged delegates to win the first ballot of the convention without any help from superdelegates, should dispel any notion that the nomination is being "stolen from Bernie" like some of his fans like to say. Again, like I've been saying, for something to be stolen from you, it needs to be yours to start with, and the nomination has not been and will never be Bernie's to start with. Also, there is no rigging. There were consolidations and endorsements which are part of the normal political process in ALL elections everywhere in the world, but the people have spoken, and the people's choice is clearly Biden.

The margin of error is insufficient for Biden to drop below 1991, and also insufficient for Bernie to go up to 1991.

In national polls, the average now shows Biden 21.1% ahead of Sanders.

Decisive advantages for Biden also exist in all major states coming up this Tuesday: Florida +42.8%, Illinois +31.4%, Ohio +24%, Arizona +23.4%.

If Bernie cares for a party he always had a contentious relationship with, he should drop out at the latest after the inevitable shellacking he will get this coming Tuesday.

Something, though, tells me that he won't, which will be really, really a regrettable move.

Bernie, come on! Time to heal the party and try to keep most Bernie fans engaged in the bigger (and difficult but not impossible) task of kicking Trump out of the White House.
 
Oops, sorry for the typo in the title, should obviously be "gives"
 
GreatNews2night said:
OK, how can we spell "it's over" any clearer?

538's Nate Silver has downgrade Bernie's chances to a round zero.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? | FiveThirtyEight

Biden is now projected to finish with 2,436 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out until the end. Such huge popular vote difference (so far, +1,472,542 and counting) and plenty of pledged delegates to win the first ballot of the convention without any help from superdelegates, should dispel any notion that the nomination is being "stolen from Bernie" like some of his fans like to say. Again, like I've been saying, for something to be stolen from you, it needs to be yours to start with, and the nomination has not been and will never be Bernie's to start with. Also, there is no rigging. There were consolidations and endorsements which are part of the normal political process in ALL elections everywhere in the world, but the people have spoken, and the people's choice is clearly Biden.

The margin of error is insufficient for Biden to drop below 1991, and also insufficient for Bernie to go up to 1991.

In national polls, the average now shows Biden 21.1% ahead of Sanders.

Decisive advantages for Biden also exist in all major states coming up this Tuesday: Florida +42.8%, Illinois +31.4%, Ohio +24%, Arizona +23.4%.

If Bernie cares for a party he always had a contentious relationship with, he should drop out at the latest after the inevitable shellacking he will get this coming Tuesday.

Something, though, tells me that he won't, which will be really, really a regrettable move.

Bernie, come on! Time to heal the party and try to keep most Bernie fans engaged in the bigger (and difficult but not impossible) task of kicking Trump out of the White House.
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Bernie will do what he wants and should be able to do exactly what he wants. The Democratic Party doesn't care about him so why should he sing to their tune and be at their beck and call?
 
trixare4kids said:
Bernie will do what he wants and should be able to do exactly what he wants. The Democratic Party doesn't care about him so why should he sing to their tune and be at their beck and call?
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As a committed Trumper, your opinion is very predictable. Anything that helps Don Don, right?
 
trixare4kids said:
Bernie will do what he wants and should be able to do exactly what he wants. The Democratic Party doesn't care about him so why should he sing to their tune and be at their beck and call?
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Well, he represents the progressive cause in America. How does it look if he keeps losing?

He should step aside and let someone younger and more capable take over.
 
One more good thing if Bernie stays in longer is if it irks the OP and similar people. Another is increasing the pressure for better policies.
 
trixare4kids said:
Bernie will do what he wants and should be able to do exactly what he wants. The Democratic Party doesn't care about him so why should he sing to their tune and be at their beck and call?
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Why should the Democratic Party care about an ineffectual independent who claims to be a Democrat every four years because he's too lazy to run on an independent ticket?
 
Nate Silver = DNC toadie

Biden should drop out before he embarrasses himself further.
 
Airyaman said:
Why should the Democratic Party care about an ineffectual independent who claims to be a Democrat every four years because he's too lazy to run on an independent ticket?
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Two criminal syndicates control US politics.

Bernie's been forced to align with one of them by necessity.

Like the US with Stalin during WW II.

:shrug:
 
Bernie sees what everyone see's. Biden is a coughing fit away from a mental collapse. IF Bernie puts pressure on Biden to win this thing, Biden is likely to collapse physically and mentally. Then what do you do? Do you demand Bernie step aside for another candidate of the DNCs choosing?
 
VanceMack said:
Bernie sees what everyone see's. Biden is a coughing fit away from a mental collapse. IF Bernie puts pressure on Biden to win this thing, Biden is likely to collapse physically and mentally. Then what do you do? Do you demand Bernie step aside for another candidate of the DNCs choosing?
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Probably.

Democrat Party = Shameless criminal syndicate
 
3leftsdoo said:
Probably.

Democrat Party = Shameless criminal syndicate
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Somewhere out there Hillary Clinton is ironing her pants suits....rested and ready...

And even though Im joking, every single person that reads this could actually see it play out this way at the convention.
 
GreatNews2night said:
OK, how can we spell "it's over" any clearer?

538's Nate Silver has downgrade Bernie's chances to a round zero.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary? | FiveThirtyEight

Biden is now projected to finish with 2,436 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out until the end. Such huge popular vote difference (so far, +1,472,542 and counting) and plenty of pledged delegates to win the first ballot of the convention without any help from superdelegates, should dispel any notion that the nomination is being "stolen from Bernie" like some of his fans like to say. Again, like I've been saying, for something to be stolen from you, it needs to be yours to start with, and the nomination has not been and will never be Bernie's to start with. Also, there is no rigging. There were consolidations and endorsements which are part of the normal political process in ALL elections everywhere in the world, but the people have spoken, and the people's choice is clearly Biden.

The margin of error is insufficient for Biden to drop below 1991, and also insufficient for Bernie to go up to 1991.

In national polls, the average now shows Biden 21.1% ahead of Sanders.

Decisive advantages for Biden also exist in all major states coming up this Tuesday: Florida +42.8%, Illinois +31.4%, Ohio +24%, Arizona +23.4%.

If Bernie cares for a party he always had a contentious relationship with, he should drop out at the latest after the inevitable shellacking he will get this coming Tuesday.

Something, though, tells me that he won't, which will be really, really a regrettable move.

Bernie, come on! Time to heal the party and try to keep most Bernie fans engaged in the bigger (and difficult but not impossible) task of kicking Trump out of the White House.
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I agree that Bernie should drop out, but not before the next primary round on Tuesday. I want to see how Biden does in the one on one debate. It's best to get him toughened up before the general.
 
Trumpers NEED Bernie.
 
I think the earliest he'll drop out is after the debate and Tuesday's voting results.
 
trixare4kids said:
Bernie will do what he wants and should be able to do exactly what he wants. The Democratic Party doesn't care about him so why should he sing to their tune and be at their beck and call?
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To beat Trump. I thought the OP was very clear about that.
 
Craig234 said:
One more good thing if Bernie stays in longer is if it irks the OP and similar people. Another is increasing the pressure for better policies.
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As usual, Craig234 is adversarial to posters/voters without realizing that this is one of the multiple reasons why his candidate is losing (badly).

What irks Craig234 is this: Biden with +1,470,722 popular votes.

The pressure for better policies will never give fruits if Trump wins. Why, does Craig234 think that Trump will implement those policies Bernie is pressuring for???

The interesting thing is that if Craig234 thinks that it is worth pressuring Biden for policies, then Craig234, unlike what he preaches at every corner, is actually acknowledging that Biden *can* win in November.

Yes, he can. It will be difficult, but not impossible. If Bernie really wants his policies to prevail, sure, he should meet with Biden behind closed doors and extract policy concessions in exchange for dropping out and endorsing Biden, but then, Bernie should indeed drop out, to give these policies a chance.

If Bernie is all about himself and his narcissism and actually couldn't care less about policies for the people, then sure, he should continue to do his best to wound Biden and help electing Trump, since Trump obviously has the very opposite policies.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Nate Silver = DNC toadie

Biden should drop out before he embarrasses himself further.
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Math has a well-known liberal bias :lamo
 
bearpoker said:
I agree that Bernie should drop out, but not before the next primary round on Tuesday. I want to see how Biden does in the one on one debate. It's best to get him toughened up before the general.
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That would be good politics. Can't say I trust Sanders to view it this way, but I'd like to see him graciously get onboard with defeating Trump.
 
VanceMack said:
Somewhere out there Hillary Clinton is ironing her pants suits....rested and ready...

And even though Im joking, every single person that reads this could actually see it play out this way at the convention.
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How would it play out like this at the convention? Biden is projected to win the race with more than 2,400 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out, so he will win the convention in first ballot with plenty of room to spare. Are you still under the impression that there will be a contested convention and Hillary will step in for the second ballot with superdelegate help in shiny armor??? LOL. There will be no second ballot.

Nate Silver now gives to a contested convention, a 0.2% chance of happening.

You need to seriously update your information.
 
GreatNews2night said:
How would it play out like this at the convention? Biden is projected to win the race with more than 2,400 pledged delegates even if Bernie doesn't drop out, so he will win the convention in first ballot with plenty of room to spare. Are you still under the impression that there will be a contested convention and Hillary will step in for the second ballot with superdelegate help in shiny armor??? LOL. There will be no second ballot.

Nate Silver now gives to a contested convention, a 0.2% chance of happening.

You need to seriously update your information.
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It's hard for him to let go of his wet dream scenario.
 
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