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N.Y. millionaire tax gets a push from poll, Occupy Wall St.


the people who claim that are rarely paying much of anything in taxes and rarely understand that taxing people more isn't for the greater good of anyone but the politicians who use that to pander to their voting bloc
 

Threatened banks with what? Fines, jail, ?
 

You're just scapegoating.
We pay for lots of people's mistakes, we have a social safety net and all sorts of other social programs.
Not hearing any gripes about those "bailouts."

Blaming one group of people is totally irrational and intellectually dishonest.

Want to know how the wealthy became wealthier?
Look at the stock market graph from the recession.
They bought low and got wealthier as it rose back up.
 
of course you don't. she needs to have her wealth confiscated so others can feel better

that her husband's estate paid millions in taxes after he paid millions each year is not enough for the leftist mentality

her situation is not tragic now but you all sure would like to change that if you could
 
the people who claim that are rarely paying much of anything in taxes and rarely understand that taxing people more isn't for the greater good of anyone but the politicians who use that to pander to their voting bloc


well of course your going to say that your rich!
 
Threatened banks with what? Fines, jail, ?

Yes! All of the above.

http://www.bos.frb.org/commdev/commaff/closingt.pdf

 

yep, we pounced on the discounts when others were bailing out

its doing really well now
 
well of course your going to say that your rich!

rich is often a state of mind. If you concede you won't ever be rich you will never be.

but I have no duty to pay for your existence nor do I expect you to pay for mine
 

The Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) is a United States law (codified at 15 U.S.C. § 1691 et seq.), enacted in 1974, that makes it unlawful for any creditor to discriminate against any applicant, with respect to any aspect of a credit transaction, on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, or age (provided the applicant has the capacity to contract);[1]

Equal Credit Opportunity Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's not even relevant to discussing the housing crisis. It was also enacted in 1974, and the housing market has gone up and down many, many times since 1974.
 
rich is often a state of mind. If you concede you won't ever be rich you will never be.

but I have no duty to pay for your existence nor do I expect you to pay for mine

I dont expect anyone to pay for my existence because I was raised in a good family and had a decent upbringing and had a good chance at life! Me and my wife work full-time and pay our taxes and save most of our money much like yourself. However it seems unlike you I was brought up a Christain and if my time in Iraq taught me anything it was that you need to help those less fourtunate than yourself. Not everyone is dealt a good hand and some hard working people get hit with some bad luck, they need our help to get back on their feet and get back to work and if raising taxes will help the poor by taking from the rich than im all for it! “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Luke 18:25)”
 

It's relevant. As with any legislation, agency rules enacted after the fact under its auspices can and do have effects.

Government crashed the housing market.
 

I don't buy into biblical BS especially when people try to twist it to justify socialism

I also note that many leftwingers assume that only government coerced redistribution of wealth is charity when it is people like me who spend far more on real charity than rich liberals who normally give money to elect other socialists or to "think tanks" that advocate more socialism rather than to entities that Actually help the poor

keep your myths to yourself. supporting a socialist government isn't going to get you into heaven.
 


lol who said anything about socalism? You guys love to throw that word out to scare the masses away, some of us are not that naive! Alos let us not forget income tax for the rich was at his highest during Americas boom, funny that!
 
lol who said anything about socalism? You guys love to throw that word out to scare the masses away, some of us are not that naive! Alos let us not forget income tax for the rich was at his highest during Americas boom, funny that!

Nobody paid it. Ask Ron Howard if Andy Griffith or Don Knotts were in the 90% tax bracket.
 
and warren buffet says the same about today "How many folks in that bracket are really paying 35%"
 
It's relevant. As with any legislation, agency rules enacted after the fact under its auspices can and do have effects.

Government crashed the housing market.

This a weak argument. Do you understand the purpose of the ECOA is to protect minorities from discrimination, and that has nothing to do with money or forcing anybody to sell a house to the poor or to somebody whom can't afford a house? The ECOA doesn't require anybody to sell a house to a minority either. It just makes it illegal to outright refuse to sell because of race, religion, gender, etc. You're basically blaming the housing crisis on black/Asian/Native America/Jewish/women, etc. Do you realize that?
 
lol who said anything about socalism? You guys love to throw that word out to scare the masses away, some of us are not that naive! Alos let us not forget income tax for the rich was at his highest during Americas boom, funny that!

what years were those

the ones where America was the ONLY remaining superpower economically after the factories of Japan, Germany, France and England were bombed flat

btw that was the era of Jim Crow, no civil rights etc. Cause and effect tend to bitch slap such claims

America was rapidly becoming the world superpower before we had the new deal and confiscatory income tax rates as well

How the hell did America go from being a new kid on the bloc to the big dog without socialist income redistribution?

gee FREEDOM must have worked and we didn't need 50% taxes on the most productive people as we have now
 

I run my house finances just like a business.
Cut costs, increase revenues, invest in income producing assets, keep some amount of liquidity and credit to float for unforeseen events(both good and bad).
 
It's relevant. As with any legislation, agency rules enacted after the fact under its auspices can and do have effects.

Government crashed the housing market.

Nonsense. No bank was ever forced to make loans to people who could not afford them. It is and was perfectly legal to deny a minority a loan if they failed to meet a particular lenders standards. What is and was illegal is to deny a minority a loan, and then give a non-minority a loan if both posed similar/identical credit risks to the lender.

We refer to this as being a market failure apologist.
 
and warren buffet says the same about today "How many folks in that bracket are really paying 35%"

Buffett sucks up the gullible who haven't figured out what a load of BS he spews in order to cyber slurp the democrats

lets see

death taxes-state and federal
income taxes -highest bracket state and federal
FICA (not supposed to be taxes but they are)
state sales tax of 7%
gasoline taxes
property taxes
airport taxes
excise taxes (I spend a fair amount on shooting sports where there is an 11% excise tax)
Hotel tax
etc etc etc

I am paying a ton of taxes
 
I run my house finances just like a business.
Cut costs, increase revenues, invest in income producing assets, keep some amount of liquidity and credit to float for unforeseen events(both good and bad).

and others think we should be taxed more for investing wisely and saving
 
The total effective tax rate for the top 1% is 29.5% in 2007.
Taxes go progressively lower for each bracket, as it goes down.

IMO, the problem is that the total effective tax rate for the top .001% is still 29.5% in 2007. Not very progressive is you ask me.
 


went from being the new kid on the bloc to the big dog by selling bombs etc to the allies at a very high interest...End of the day history tells you one thing if the guy at the bottom is doing well then the guy at the top is doing even better. It is in the rich's interest to invest in america rather than avoiding income tax by paying foreign taxes or donating to charity.
According to a recently released IRS report, almost 1,500 of America's 230,000 millionaires avoided paying any federal income tax in 2009.
 
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