My thoughts on what Democrats need to do to become relevant again

[daeler]

so??? News for ya------things have to be paid for,

Yes and people want the national debt to start going down.

and this would free up our economy

Not necessarily, it really depends on how it was structured.

I also think this is something that will not happen for a very long time, too much corruption, the way society is structured. The capitalist society we have makes this near impossible.

 

[tshade]

Yes and people want the national debt to start going down.

well---the GOP certainly doesn't, so they should get on board with National Healthcare. Since most people voted Trump in office, it stands to reason they do NOT want to lower the debt......

 

[daeler]

well---the GOP certainly doesn't, so they should get on board with National Healthcare. Since most people voted Trump in office, it stands to reason they do NOT want to lower the debt......

Except the GOP is against healthcare, let alone universal healthcare. I mean they took health care away from millions of people and you think they will be willing to give it to everyone? They don't even want kids to have lunch in schools.

 

[tshade]

Except the GOP is against healthcare, let alone universal healthcare. I mean they took health care away from millions of people and you think they will be willing to give it to everyone? They don't even want kids to have lunch in schools.

The GOP has an excellent healthcare plan: "die as soon as possible"

 

[daeler]

The GOP has an excellent healthcare plan: "die as soon as possible"

Yep hence Universal healthcare is not needed.

Seriously tho, there is just no way they can pull it off currently, you would need 65% of both houses and a crap ton of money.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Except the GOP is against healthcare, let alone universal healthcare. I mean they took health care away from millions of people and you think they will be willing to give it to everyone? They don't even want kids to have lunch in schools.

Why doesn’t some ‘blue’ state offer those “free” perks to all residents of their state? After all, it would allegedly save money and become popular.

 

[tshade]

Yep hence Universal healthcare is not needed.

Seriously tho, there is just no way they can pull it off currently, you would need 65% of both houses and a crap ton of money.

a crap ton of money was just thrown out by the GOP in the Big Beau. Bill-------

 

[Perotista]

No kidding to all of this. It's a huge glaring problem for them, IMO. And no kidding about NOW. They are wasting valuable time, and no Dem is strongly/effectively stepping up (other than maybe AOC and Crockett). Many Dems say it's too early to worry about the lack of a leader stepping forth. I think it's getting too late and, as a result, they are getting to the point where they are just literally giving all the idea and goal conversations to the GOP.

Also, no kidding about having NO message but anti-Trump. Just the other day, I was chatting with @Chomsky about voters not liking the way Trump is going about deportations (according to him and to some polling). I pondered that and wondered how Dems might choose to run on or message what they see as a better plan. I can't think of a single prominent Dem who has introduced their "better ideas". But they also haven't introduced their ideas with any foreign policy or wars, with taxation, with their plans for the economy, and more. To me, they all seem incredibly lazy and unmotivated - with the lone exception of AOC. But even she is just putting in energy and time, but is lacking ideas.

If AOC becomes the face of the democratic party, then they’re in much more trouble than I ever thought they were in. One big problem for the democrats is the infighting for control of the democratic party by several different factions which they are attempting to keep under the public radar. This plays right into Trump’s hands. The question is can the democrats regroup, come up with that positive message, unite in time for next year’s midterms. I was looking at Charlie Cooks House ratings for next year, 40 total seats in the competitive or at risk of switching, tossup plus lean seats. 22 belong to the democrats, 18 to the republicans. Not a good sign if the goal is regaining control of the house. But it’s early. The longer the democrats go leaderless and rudderless, the less chance I’d say they have in regaining control of the house.

2026 CPR House Race ratings | Cook Political Report

www.cookpolitical.com

 

[gbg3]

If AOC becomes the face of the democratic party, then they’re in much more trouble than I ever thought they were in. One big problem for the democrats is the infighting for control of the democratic party by several different factions which they are attempting to keep under the public radar. This plays right into Trump’s hands. The question is can the democrats regroup, come up with that positive message, unite in time for next year’s midterms. I was looking at Charlie Cooks House ratings for next year, 40 total seats in the competitive or at risk of switching, tossup plus lean seats. 22 belong to the democrats, 18 to the republicans. Not a good sign if the goal is regaining control of the house. But it’s early. The longer the democrats go leaderless and rudderless, the less chance I’d say they have in regaining control of the house.

2026 CPR House Race ratings | Cook Political Report

www.cookpolitical.com

Thanks. I hadn't yet seen that link you posted. That's interesting and consistent with one of Enten's recent discussions about the House.

I think the higher Dem voter enthusiasm might end up putting the Dems in control of the House, but I certainly don't think it's a given.

But assuming the Dems win the House and the GOP keeps the Senate next year, that scenario won't convince me the Dems will likely win the White House in 2028. Vance is already looking fairly strong for the 2028 election and that infighting in the Dem party is a big problematic deal in figuring out what direction and what leader they'll be able to successfully unify around.

 

[CimpleMan]

Starts with regaining some credibility with voters. Was hoping autopsy report of last election loss would be the beginning.

From what I've read it's going to deflect blame and won't deal with Biden/Kamala as the candidate or campaign. Waiting for final draft to come out.

 

[Perotista]

Thanks. I hadn't yet seen that link you posted. That's interesting and consistent with one of Enten's recent discussions about the House.

I think the higher Dem voter enthusiasm might end up putting the Dems in control of the House, but I certainly don't think it's a given.

But assuming the Dems win the House and the GOP keeps the Senate next year, that scenario won't convince me the Dems will likely win the White House in 2028. Vance is already looking fairly strong for the 2028 election and that infighting in the Dem party is a big problematic deal in figuring out what direction and what leader they'll be able to successfully unify around.

I’m one election at a time. It’s the midterms that has my attention. Usually there’s a surprise or two in the midterms that directly effect the upcoming presidential election. The house in my opinion is a 50-50 shot. That either party could gain or lose 1-5 seats given today’s numbers. There’s certainly no indication of a blue wave like happened in 2018 when the democrats gained 42 seats.

I would say in the senate, no more than a 1-2 seat change. The GOP has Maine and North Carolina to worry about, the democrats Michigan and Georgia. The scuttlebutt down here is that Trump told Kemp not to run for the Georgia senate seat, he has someone else in mind. I have no doubt that Kemp would have won, probably fairly easily. If that someone else is MTG, she’ll probably lose and the republicans would have blown an excellent chance of picking up a democratic held senate seat. Then there’s North Carolina where Democratic governor Cooper has decided to run for that’s state open seat. It seems to me that the democrats are going with their best chance of winning candidate in North Carolina while the republicans have declined to go with their best chance of winning candidate here in Georgia. Or perhaps, more accurately, Trump has decided to not go with the candidate with the best chance of winning.

 

[Rexedgar]

Any Democrat that runs on restoring the White House Rose Garden in 2029 will have my vote!

 

[Airyaman]

Any Democrat that runs on restoring the White House Rose Garden in 2029 will have my vote!

But it's so beautiful!