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My state, California, can be weird

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California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.
 
California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.

That's because voters haven't yet heard what kind of guy Larry Elder is.
He even makes pot look bad, and he partakes!

In one home video she provided to POLITICO, Elder brags about his relationship with Snoop Dogg, saying, “I introduced him to the evil weed… I taught him everything he knows...I’m the one who made him what he is, I can’t believe he turned his back on me, mother****er.”

You'll have to visit POLITICO to see the video clip, can't link it here because: BRIGHTCOVE don't play that.

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Elder’s attitude toward women has been a major issue in the campaign, with both Newsom and GOP rivals flagging a two-decade-old column in which he wrote, “Women know less than men about political issues, economics, and current events.”

“He was in the bedroom, and I was standing by the door,” she said. “We talked to each other.’’ He became silent, she said, and then slowly “walked over to the nightstand, opened the door, took out the gun,’’ a .45 pistol.

“And he checked if it was loaded — while I was talking,’’ she said. “He wanted to make sure I saw that he had it.”

“It was an act of silent scorn — and anger,’’ she said.

“For a minute there ... I thought it was a Phil Spector moment,’’
 
California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.
If you have a 2-1 advantage of Democrats, then Newsom should have nothing to worry about, right? Unless, of course, a lot of your Democrats don't like him.

btw, it looks like your election officials are doing what THEY can do to give Newsom an edge.


So, as they say...let not your heart be troubled.
 
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California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.
It can, indeed, be weird.

It has long been one of the most progressive states in the union. Women, for example, were allowed to vote in state and local elections and to own property not in their husbands' name long before they had those rights nation wide. Jim Crow laws were never in force in California. In more modern times, same sex marriage was legal in California five years before it was nation wide. California leads the way in social progress.

But, our recall process is seriously screwed up. In order to remain in office, Newsome has to get at least 50% of the vote, but a successor could be inaugurated with a single digits vote. That just ought not to be.

And then, there's the voters. They'll come out and vote in "important" national elections, but with only one issue on the ballot, all too many can't be bothered. For some reason, the minority of "conservatives," read "Trump supporters" are more likely to vote in larger numbers. That shouldn't be, either. Way too many lazy voters could result in a bad outcome in the current election.
 
California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.


My hat is off to you sir, on such a well written post. I have often wondered the same thing; how is it a state that created The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, Janis Joplin, Santana, and eventually The Eagles can deliver a Reagan let alone Nixon? For the record I would pick Reagan over Nixon based on a sympathy vote he was the last president shot, which brings me back to the start....A state that produces the horror of the Manson Family can't even aim straight - they missed.

Then again, I have to be careful here, I live in California North, British Columbia where "right" wing parties oppose power projects proposed by the current "Social Democrat" party.

They're just ****ing labels anymore, a couple of strips of color with which we are to rally to some kind of defense of some imagined threat or deliberately created threat (See George Bush). The more individualized we become, the more civilized the more we don't need them "saving" us with promises of tariffs and walls - which sound reasonable until you check reality. i.e. the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants arrive by air.
 
My hat is off to you sir, on such a well written post. I have often wondered the same thing; how is it a state that created The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, Janis Joplin, Santana, and eventually The Eagles can deliver a Reagan let alone Nixon? For the record I would pick Reagan over Nixon based on a sympathy vote he was the last president shot, which brings me back to the start....A state that produces the horror of the Manson Family can't even aim straight - they missed.

Then again, I have to be careful here, I live in California North, British Columbia where "right" wing parties oppose power projects proposed by the current "Social Democrat" party.

They're just ****ing labels anymore, a couple of strips of color with which we are to rally to some kind of defense of some imagined threat or deliberately created threat (See George Bush). The more individualized we become, the more civilized the more we don't need them "saving" us with promises of tariffs and walls - which sound reasonable until you check reality. i.e. the overwhelming number of illegal immigrants arrive by air.
It's easy to forget how solidly conservative the California hinterland is. I've spent a fair bit of passing-through, on the road time in California and you don't need to get far from the coastal urban areas to feel like you stepped through a door.
Good people, some of the nicest and most welcoming I've met, but Californian conservatives are definitely a thing. Not a Texas conservative thing, but the US is an amazingly diverse topic.
 
California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.
California has the largest percentage of welfare cases and children living in poverty. We have massive homeless problems. We have some of the highest person income tax rates, working people leaving to be replaced by Biden's brigades of illegals
 
NY created Trump and Giuliani... Nothing to be proud of either...

And the Dems here just forced Cuomo out of office. I'm no fan of Cuomo but if he was a Republican in a Red state they would be erecting statues of him. Republican elected Trump as Prez, a serial harasser and molester and adulterer.. They still love him...

Someday the Dems got to learn to play just as dirty and rotten as the Republicans, don't know if they ever will though..
 
NY created Trump and Giuliani... Nothing to be proud of either...

And the Dems here just forced Cuomo out of office. I'm no fan of Cuomo but if he was a Republican in a Red state they would be erecting statues of him. Republican elected Trump as Prez, a serial harasser and molester and adulterer.. They still love him...

Someday the Dems got to learn to play just as dirty and rotten as the Republicans, don't know if they ever will though..
"May learn . . ."? Dems hold post-doctoral degrees in Dirty, Rotten Politics - It's teh party that created the KKK.
 
California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.
I am a Californian too, it is the worst state in the union.......except for the other 49.

The land of fruits and nuts for sure.......go california.
 
NY created Trump and Giuliani... Nothing to be proud of either...

And the Dems here just forced Cuomo out of office. I'm no fan of Cuomo but if he was a Republican in a Red state they would be erecting statues of him. Republican elected Trump as Prez, a serial harasser and molester and adulterer.. They still love him...

Someday the Dems got to learn to play just as dirty and rotten as the Republicans, don't know if they ever will though..
No, we don't. Removing Cuomo was the right thing.
 
California has the largest percentage of welfare cases and children living in poverty.
I just love the hyperbole - never backed by facts, as if the rest of us can't look them up:

Here are the 10 states with the most welfare recipients:

  1. New Mexico (21,368 per 100k)
  2. West Virginia (17,388 per 100k)
  3. Louisiana (17,388 per 100k)
  4. Mississippi (14,849 per 100k)
  5. Alabama (14,568 per 100k)
  6. Oklahoma (14,525 per 100k)
  7. Illinois (14,153 per 100k)
  8. Rhode Island (13,904 per 100k)
  9. Pennsylvania (13,623 per 100k)
  10. Oregon (13,617 per 100k)

Here are the 10 states with the highest poverty rates:

  1. Mississippi (19.75%)
  2. Louisiana (18.83%)
  3. New Mexico (18.63%)
  4. West Virginia (17.54%)
  5. Kentucky (16.67%)
  6. Arkansas (16.36%)
  7. Alabama (16.13%)
  8. Oklahoma (15.00%)
  9. Tennessee (14.36%)
  10. Georgia (14.11%)
 
It's easy to forget how solidly conservative the California hinterland is. I've spent a fair bit of passing-through, on the road time in California and you don't need to get far from the coastal urban areas to feel like you stepped through a door.
Good people, some of the nicest and most welcoming I've met, but Californian conservatives are definitely a thing. Not a Texas conservative thing, but the US is an amazingly diverse topic.
You're right, but that only explains the 1/3 that's not Democratic.

Why the state is 2/3 Democratic but Newsom is in a dead heat and Davis was recalled, isn't explained by the hinterlands.
 
I just love the hyperbole - never backed by facts, as if the rest of us can't look them up:

Here are the 10 states with the most welfare recipients:

  1. New Mexico (21,368 per 100k)
  2. West Virginia (17,388 per 100k)
  3. Louisiana (17,388 per 100k)
  4. Mississippi (14,849 per 100k)
  5. Alabama (14,568 per 100k)
  6. Oklahoma (14,525 per 100k)
  7. Illinois (14,153 per 100k)
  8. Rhode Island (13,904 per 100k)
  9. Pennsylvania (13,623 per 100k)
  10. Oregon (13,617 per 100k)

Here are the 10 states with the highest poverty rates:

  1. Mississippi (19.75%)
  2. Louisiana (18.83%)
  3. New Mexico (18.63%)
  4. West Virginia (17.54%)
  5. Kentucky (16.67%)
  6. Arkansas (16.36%)
  7. Alabama (16.13%)
  8. Oklahoma (15.00%)
  9. Tennessee (14.36%)
  10. Georgia (14.11%)
Ouch.

That is going to leave a scar.
 
Voters generally speaking have memory problems. How can voters elect a republican when
no republican is on the ballot across the USA?

ALEC has eliminated republicans and set in place extreme right wing libertarians AND fundamentalists.

People behind ALEC have no use for Republicans much less democrats.

There is enough DOCUMENTED damaging information regarding ALEC and the GOP available to all if all
would seek out.
 
California is often the leader for the country, progressing, setting the model, solving problems.

We're largely the most progressive, Democratic state in the country. We have 2-1 Democrats to Republicans, and supermajorities for Democrats in both houses, and all Democratic statewide officials. So far, so good.

And yet.

We're the state that gave the country the two most damaging figures in modern American history last century, Nixon and Reagan.

When we had a ballot to legalize gay marriage shortly before the court forced it, we voted it down. Same with Marijuana. Just last election, the food delivery companies were able to buy voters to pass an exemption for those companies to our labor laws.

We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar. He was a bad governor, better because Davis helped him; so we re-elected him.

Then things got back to normal. Two (more) terms for Jerry Brown, then the perfectly fine Gavin Newsom.

Now, despite our 2-1 advantage of Democrats, Republicans as usual are trying to buy their old tricks and get him recalled, but voters are falling for it enough that it's a dead heat. It makes no sense. It's threatening to give corrupt Republicans a huge win and cause great damage to our state. Hopefully, our voters get a clue.
TOO many voters in California not voting ........ living on assumption which is what conservatives count on.
 
I just love the hyperbole - never backed by facts, as if the rest of us can't look them up:

Here are the 10 states with the most welfare recipients:

  1. New Mexico (21,368 per 100k)
  2. West Virginia (17,388 per 100k)
  3. Louisiana (17,388 per 100k)
  4. Mississippi (14,849 per 100k)
  5. Alabama (14,568 per 100k)
  6. Oklahoma (14,525 per 100k)
  7. Illinois (14,153 per 100k)
  8. Rhode Island (13,904 per 100k)
  9. Pennsylvania (13,623 per 100k)
  10. Oregon (13,617 per 100k)

Here are the 10 states with the highest poverty rates:

  1. Mississippi (19.75%)
  2. Louisiana (18.83%)
  3. New Mexico (18.63%)
  4. West Virginia (17.54%)
  5. Kentucky (16.67%)
  6. Arkansas (16.36%)
  7. Alabama (16.13%)
  8. Oklahoma (15.00%)
  9. Tennessee (14.36%)
  10. Georgia (14.11%)
Uh, I said "largest percentage" per 100k isn't a percentage. Maybe I wasn't clear - of the total welfare cases in the US, California has the highest percentage.
 
No, we don't. Removing Cuomo was the right thing.
I'm not saying if it was right or wrong. I'm saying if he was a Republican he'd be the GOP nominee and running for president..

30 years when people said there was little difference between the two parties they were correct... Now? The difference is day and night... And I don't think most Dems realize that yet..
 
You progressives just have to face facts. Your goofy religion is garbage. See Joe Biden for further information.
 
I'm not saying if it was right or wrong. I'm saying if he was a Republican he'd be the GOP nominee and running for president..

Ya, I agree with that, what I disagree with is where you said Democrats should copy that.
 
Conservatives represent about 20% of the voters .......... too many folks staying home instead of voting............
 

Arrogance by California Dems could give GOP improbable recall win — and flip control of the US Senate


Four weeks from now, a right-wing Republican could win the governor's office in California. Some polling indicates that Democrat Gavin Newsom is likely to lose his job via the recall election set for Sept. 14. When CBS News released a poll on Sunday, Gov. Newsom's razor-thin edge among likely voters was within the margin of error. How this could be happening in a state where Republicans are only 24 percent of registered voters is largely a tale of corporate-friendly elitism and tone-deaf egotism at the top of the California Democratic Party.
 
We had a good Democratic governor, Gray Davis, in his second term, early this century. But when Enron scammed the state for billions, which they'd owe, they tried to get him to sign a sweetheart deal letting them off the hook. He refused.

So they found our governor recall law, and went shopping for a puppet who would sign their relief, and found Arnold Schwarzeneggar. California voted to recall Davis and elect Schwarzeneggar.

The CA GOP was smart in dictating to Daryl Issa how the cow was going to eat the recall cabbage. Gray Davis would have remained governor if Issa had been the GOP candidate instead of the Gropenator-Baby Daddy.

I'll be mailing my completed ballot tomorrow.
 
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