It has been pointed out that alternative energy sources result in a net energy loss. While this is true, it is not exclusively true of alternative energy.
By comparison, the energy used in gasoline production-which includes exploration, production, transportation, and refining-is only about 12 to 15 percent of the energy yield.
National Center for Policy Analysis
The comparative energy loss is what is important, really. This along with the relative cost of the energy inputs. The article cited is comparing ethanol and gasoline, where gasoline comes out ahead by too much; making ethanol undesirable from a purely economic standpoint.
This thread has postulated the viability of the
hydrogen storage of nuclear energy for use later as a transportable energy source. It is not enough to say that there is a net loss of energy with regard to hydrogen. Very simply, the sceptic must show that hydrogen is a more expensive energy store than gasoline.
This would address the value to our economy of the cheapest possible energy source. It ignores the value to our country (and indirectly, our economy), of energy independence. The value of energy independence is not easily factored into the economy.
Does anyone really think we'd be in Iraq at all if oil wasn't a consideration? Yes, yes, I realize that Bush is supposedly attempting to spread freedom and democracy. Nevertheless, would he have any support at all for supposedly doing so in Iraq if oil wasn't right there? Do we really think he'd be interested in doing so if it weren't for oil? Ok, lets take a flying leap of faith (ignoring all evidence to the contrary) and assume its about making the world safe from terrorism :roll: Would our policies even interest potential terrorists if our policies weren't ones that tried to preserve stable American friendly regimes in the Middle East?
No matter how you slice it, these costs are part of the cost of preserving 'cheap' oil based energy. Stable access to oil has been a cost, not just to economies, but in human lives, for the past century. I would love to cut these countries loose from American policy considerations, and let them figure out for themselves how best to be governed.
Even with all of this, I don't think we would necessarily end up with cheaper energy if we switched to hydrogen. I simply don't know, and don't have the time just now to do the research to decide, and thus compare these costs to what it costs us in non-economic terms. However, I hope I've contributed by pointing out that the answer the question the thread asks is of greater complexity than the narrow considerations that have been put forward allow.
My own qualified answer is that, even though I'm very friendly to the environment and a raving liberal, I would be quite favorable to the exploration of nuclear power solutions to cheap energy supply. Regardless of whether transportable energy will be hydrogen or not, we need to seriously begin to prepare for an alternative to gasoline and other oil derivatives. No matter what adequate energy source is developed, it seems inevitable that it will involve the management of pollution as a factor. Nuclear seems to be the most likely candidate for the amount of energy we will need, and development of it should not wait for a crisis.