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Whats my blanket argument other than questioning those that they state our Constitution is just stuff and does not compare to Islam. Questiong those that say they have tolerance yet don't get out there forcefully and direct Change within their religious Hierarchy.
I don't see TV filled with their religious people controlling the flow of information or directing others to not Riot. Nor do I hear radio stations with their people preaching that Good Word. The Newspapers arent filled with Prominent leaders advocating Rights and Law of their own Countries and that of others.
Where is Louis Farrakan the Prominent American Muslim Leader and the Million-man March? Any reason he isnt out there in full force and Affect explaining to those Muslims over seas what is like with law for all it's people. Women and all having protected Rights. Given to them from something other than Man.
When do we see that Justice come down on those religious leaders for inciting people to riot and hurt others? Just like in Pakistan. Do you think the Teachers should explain to the kids what the protests are about and not tell them to go out go to the protests......protest USA and Israel? Do you think they should stop teaching their younger generations to stop the hate?
That is up to them....I say pull the monetary aid, and manpower, and tell them to have fun in the 8th century.
A typical display of medieval intolerant, dangerous behavior for which there is no excuse whatsoever!
If one film against muslisms is made they take to the streets and kill but the rest of the world is expected to put up with those sort of actions, turn the other cheek and make excuses for their barbarism.
Radical Islam once again has been shown in its disgraceful true colors
Can you provide pictures and hopefully blueprints.
Let's face it!
Radical Islamics will attack everything that is not Islamic. Gotta to be Islamic...
Sad but true.
Let's face it!
Radical Islamics will attack everything that is not Islamic. Gotta to be Islamic...
Sad but true.
Radical Islam, yes. I would submit they are not really Muslims, but rather Islamists.
Good thought on the blueprints. After I read that this was the Muslim operational plan, I drove around and I have addresses in my own city. Try it in your city, you will be shocked at what you find. All behind locked gates, all with huge golden, spires and flags.
Better yet, just google Red House Va.
Good thought on the blueprints. After I read that this was the Muslim operational plan, I drove around and I have addresses in my own city. Try it in your city, you will be shocked at what you find. All behind locked gates, all with huge golden, spires and flags.
COX'S BAZAR, Bangladesh (Reuters) - Hundreds of Muslims in Bangladesh burned at least four Buddhist temples and 15 homes of Buddhists on Sunday after complaining that a Buddhist man had insulted Islam, police and residents said.
Muslims took to the streets in the area late on Saturday to protest against what they said was a photograph posted on Facebook that insulted Islam.
The protesters said the picture had been posted by a Buddhist and they marched to Buddhist villages and set fire to temples and houses.
Many people in predominantly Muslim Bangladesh have been angered in recent days by a film made in California that mocks the Prophet Mohammad.
Muslims in Bangladesh and beyond have also been outraged by violence over the border in Myanmar where members of the majority Buddhist community clashed with minority Muslims this year.....snip~
Muslim protesters torch Buddhist temples, homes in Bangladesh - Yahoo! News
Reuters – 1 hr 25 mins ago<<<<< More Here!
Here they go again.....now they said a Buddhist Posted a pic that insulted Islam. Do you think when thugs want to be bangers. They should be met by the same fire that those Bangers usually come back with? What should be done about Muslims that just can't accept tolerance. Thoughts?
Your role here is as an apologist. You start off with the premis you must defend Islam, so offer false equivalencies, logical fallacies and obfuscation. You do not ask yourself "why aren't we seeing fundamentalist Buddhists killing over an insult to the fat man". After all, many Buddhists live impoverished lives and whatnot.
The apologists playbook follows a typical pattern, usually involving dishonest comparisons to other religions, most notably Christianity. If something is common in Islam, find something rare in Christianity and equate. If something is happening today in Islam, find something in Christianity from 400 years ago and compare the two. If something is truly horrific in Islam, find something merely objectionable in Christianity and compare the two. That's what people do when they have predetermined they must defend. Heck, one poster in the thread even indicated she wished to remain ignorant on the subject of Islam -- it sure makes it much easier to defend when you don't know anything.
Instead of indulging in equalences, you need to ask more questions. Which religion was started by a Warlord who was in the business of conquering other tribes and how did he use this religion towards that end? How does the language of this religion stress conformity, and what punishments does it contain for non conformity? How is the religion built upon the infallability of this warlord differ from those built around men of peace?
You simply aren't asking any questions at all, but merely indulging in this "they are all the same" cr@p that so many people indule in. Religions AREN'T all the same, and treating them as if they are does showe a lack of critical thinking skills.
Sorry, man, I can't help it. It's time for a musical interlude.
since so many of us love Jimi .... can we have another musical interlude?:2razz::mrgreen:
The apologists playbook follows a typical pattern, usually involving dishonest comparisons to other religions, most notably Christianity. If something is common in Islam, find something rare in Christianity and equate. If something is happening today in Islam, find something in Christianity from 400 years ago and compare the two. If something is truly horrific in Islam, find something merely objectionable in Christianity and compare the two. That's what people do when they have predetermined they must defend. Heck, one poster in the thread even indicated she wished to remain ignorant on the subject of Islam -- it sure makes it much easier to defend when you don't know anything.
Man, the apologists' playbook really fails here.Seriously, i know you are driving a point here, but I don't see the relevance. It seems to me that your position is the defense of Christianity. It is my understanding that the thread is about Buddhism and Islam.
Mainstream Islam supports the notion of death for apostates. With that as a baseline,what is "radical" is pretty far out there.
Interestingly, we never do hear about Buddhists supporting the killing of those who leave Buddhism. In a world where all religions are the same, I wonder why not?
Man, the apologists' playbook really fails here.
I wonder how the term 'apologist' even got started. It's such an absurd notion, to deny the value of humility.
I didn't read this whole thread, but I assumed this started out of a discussion of an apology from the buddhist community? That would be a very natural, good, buddhist thing to do. The right mind, the right action, to prevent further violence. I don't see how this is a bad thing.
Having grown up Christian, with parents who took me to church every time the doors were open, I feel comfortable in saying that Christians actually feel sadness and loss when one of their adherents leaves the fold. They start reflecting on how it could have been a failure on their own part, and they wonder if there is anything they can do to help.
His position isn't clear to me, but I'm guessing that he somehow feels that he must defend his personal beliefs, whatever they are.
That's kinda different than thinking they should be killed, ain't it?
Heck, having heard about some of the crazy stuff the Church of Scientology does to those who leave their cult, that still isn't as bad as killing them. People mock Scientologists unmercifully, and rightly so, for their harassment of ex cult members, yet they remain silent on the penalty of death under Islam because of political correctness.
Weird.
All religions are the same, though, right?
They are only all the same to those who wish them to be, as a matter of convenience.
When it comes to all these people who offer that all religions are the same so as to earn the accolades from all the other people who say all religions are the same, I imagine that if they saw a fish and a submarine, they would be quite eager to call them the same as well. After all, both are shaped in fairly similar fashion and move about under the water. THey MUST be the same, right?
When it comes to all these people who offer that all religions are the same so as to earn the accolades from all the other people who say all religions are the same, I imagine that if they saw a fish and a submarine, they would be quite eager to call them the same as well. After all, both are shaped in fairly similar fashion and move about under the water. THey MUST be the same, right?
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