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Where is the national outcry to find the persons who burned the Toledo Islamic Center? Could it have been a non-Muslim religious act of violence? Hmmm?
In the United States, there is no need to try to find some sort of illusive formula to identify those Muslims not currently practicing violent Jihad and those that are. They're all the same, some are presently dormant because their numbers are small in certain areas.
Look around your own city. Regardless of how much you want to believe they like you, you will find that their Mosques are always built in a commanding position, overlooking all other aspects of your city, a clear sign of their perceived superiority and desire to fly their Muslim flag higher than any other. Notice how richly appointed their Mosques are, while their attendee numbers seem small. They build the Mosques and wait for the Muslim population to grow, just as they have for centuries.
Know that Sharia Laws and punishments are NOT in a separate book, Sharia law is the cornerstone of the Koran. There is only one book, that book is the Koran and Sharia Law is the cornerstone of the Koran, which they all worship.
If you choose to feel superior and worldly by seeking reasons to show deference for Muslims and argue on their behalf, know that you come across to others as a naive child.
The Buddhist should be putting some kung fu on these muslims. Frankly I'm getting sick and tired of the muslims thinking they can go ape**** at will.
You're just talking gibberish. A Muslim is an adherent of Islam, just like Christian is an adherent of Christianity. Muslim and Islam are LITERALLY the same word.
But hey, think whatever nonsense you like, and by all means keep talking about Muslims like they are an ethnic group. Tell EVERYBODY you meet that you think a person can be a Muslim but not Islamic. PLEASE.
Could be. And in the event that some radical Christian organization steps forward and claims responsibility (or brags about it), I'm sure 99% of the American populace, including 99% of Christians and the entirety of the media would denounce those people and see to it that they are brought to justice and to the best of our ability make sure that their ideology is eradicated utterly and completely.
What would be interesting in that scenario would be to see how you and those like-minded would treat the situation. Would you be seeking to find reasons why these Christians did it? Would you be seeking to point fingers at Muslim actions that may have provoked them? In other words, would you be treating them the way you treat Islamic extremists?
Fair enough. My position has never changed. I am not anti-religion. I am anti-extemism. I am anti-religionist. Extremist actions are wrong, not the religion. i am most wary of fundamentalism. Extremists are not moderates, they were largely fundamentalist before they became extremists. There are extremists in every religion, even Buddhism. Wrong is always wrong, no? Religionists are extremists.
It is my opinion that when we try to paint any entire religion as extremist that in doing so we harm ourselves. We should not need for other religions to be wrong and bad so that ours can be right and good.
Extremism is the issue, not religion. Acts of hatred and violence committed in the name of religion are acts of extremism. All violent acts in the name of religion should be viewed and treated equally.
RT....I grew up fighting El Rukns and Ancient Family as well as some Bantu Stones. They are Muslim Gangs Right here in the Good Ole US of A. Are you Familiar with Jeff Fort who was convicted of being a terrorist. Did they come at me and my people over our religion in the US. NO! Did they come at us because of our way of life where we hung out, what we did, and because the color of our skin. Yes!
In the United States, there is no need to try to find some sort of illusive formula to identify those Muslims not currently practicing violent Jihad and those that are. They're all the same, some are presently dormant because their numbers are small in certain areas.
Look around your own city. Regardless of how much you want to believe they like you, you will find that their Mosques are always built in a commanding position, overlooking all other aspects of your city, a clear sign of their perceived superiority and desire to fly their Muslim flag higher than any other. Notice how richly appointed their Mosques are, while their attendee numbers seem small. They build the Mosques and wait for the Muslim population to grow, just as they have for centuries.
Know that Sharia Laws and punishments are NOT in a separate book, Sharia law is the cornerstone of the Koran. There is only one book, that book is the Koran and Sharia Law is the cornerstone of the Koran, which they all worship.
If you choose to feel superior and worldly by seeking reasons to show deference for Muslims and argue on their behalf, know that you come across to others as a naive child.
So the reason they sought you out to harm you was because of your religion?
By your reasoning Latino gangs are anti-protestant as most Latinos are Roman Catholic? Anyone harmed by a Latino is actually a protestant victim of religious warfare?
Now, as soon as you realize the degree of fundamentalism differs greatly among the adherents of various religions and the language inherent in the religions, themselves, vary by way of the tendency towards such, then you will arrive at a truly rational position.
Critical thinking involves seeing the differences between things rather than painting different things as the same.
Absolutely. But would you not agree that there is a radical difference in the way that people in general walk on eggshells so as not to offend Muslims in reaction to Muslim extremism, whereas we would not be nearly so "sensitive" or apologetic were the extremism committed by Christians, for example?Fair enough. My position has never changed. I am not anti-religion. I am anti-extemism. I am anti-religionist. Extremist actions are wrong, not the religion. i am most wary of fundamentalism. Extremists are not moderates, they were largely fundamentalist before they became extremists. There are extremists in every religion, even Buddhism. Wrong is always wrong, no? Religionists are extremists.
It is my opinion that when we try to paint any entire religion as extremist that in doing so we harm ourselves. We should not need for other religions to be wrong and bad so that ours can be right and good.
Extremism is the issue, not religion. Acts of hatred and violence committed in the name of religion are acts of extremism. All violent acts in the name of religion should be viewed and treated equally.
I said No to the issue over religion. or at least they never said so. Pretty much it was over the Color of our Skin and the way we lived. I never said latino gangs are anti protestant. Most are Catholics. What I did state was that the Drug Cartels in Colombia Mexico and Central America who give monies to the Catholic Churches or Churches in their Countries. Wouldn't put up with Mobs of Muslims torching the buildings down. Attacking Christians. Then I said do you think that any of those Governments are going to take Muslims to Court and Prosecute them.
The Buddhist should be putting some kung fu on these muslims. Frankly I'm getting sick and tired of the muslims thinking they can go ape**** at will.
Don't patronize me by lecturing me on the critical thinking. I have always assumed you to be above that.
Many factors come into play regarding fundamentalism: level of education, culture, real employment expectations, relative financial security, size of practitioners of a particular religion, to name some of the most prevalent.
The single biggest factor influencing fundamentalism is the degree to which the religion, itself, stresses fealty to the religion and accompanying adherence to law. The factors that work against fundamentalism have to do with the way a religion stresses spirit over law and is voluntary rather than having punishments for non belief or apostasy.
I don't know anyone either. I'm sure there are some Americans who because of their religion have been set upon in America by Muslims. Apparently the number is insignificant. We've been living relatively peacefully in America, side by side, for at least one hundred years. That's why your blanket argument unconvincing.
Look around your own city. Regardless of how much you want to believe they like you, you will find that their Mosques are always built in a commanding position, overlooking all other aspects of your city, a clear sign of their perceived superiority and desire to fly their Muslim flag higher than any other. Notice how richly appointed their Mosques are, while their attendee numbers seem small. They build the Mosques and wait for the Muslim population to grow, just as they have for centuries.
Absolutely. But would you not agree that there is a radical difference in the way that people in general walk on eggshells so as not to offend Muslims in reaction to Muslim extremism, whereas we would not be nearly so "sensitive" or apologetic were the extremism committed by Christians, for example?
And can you not also acknowledge (WITHOUT blaming the religion of Islam in it's entirety) that Islam has been WAY more of a problem in modern history as far as violent extremism than any other religion? And as far as human rights violations? And as far as being conducive and accepting of extremism, with stubborn refusal against any sort of reform or modernization?
Acknowledging these things is NOT the same as condemning all Muslims. I think what drives a lot of people crazy is the refusal to recognize or admit what is CLEARLY a huge problem.
Not at all. You Muslims kill Americans in the United States and throughout the world and now you seem to be bleating that we should simply try to study and understand you? It's too late for that, you've killed too many good American boys.
Go watch (and listen to the screams) the video of your Muslim heroes slowing sawing through Nicholas Berg's neck. Go watch the pictures of that young American girl all dressed up for work jumping out of the 23rd floor of the Twin Towers on 9/11 because she was being hurt so badly by the fire you Muslims created. That, Amigo, is the face of true evil. No further understanding is warranted.
I don't completely disagree, but I would say that what we don't see much of is well educated, accomplished, professional Muslim men throwing rocks, rioting in the streets, making IEDs. Some, of course, but the vast majority we see are young men up to about age 40 who are marginally educated by western standards, who have no jobs or **** jobs and who have little hope for anything better. If all these same people had promising futures and were at least beginning to see the real possibility of reaching the next rung on the ladder to success, very few would be involved in acts of violence.
COX'S BAZAR, Bangladesh (Reuters) - Hundreds of Muslims in Bangladesh burned at least four Buddhist temples and 15 homes of Buddhists on Sunday after complaining that a Buddhist man had insulted Islam, police and residents said.
Muslims took to the streets in the area late on Saturday to protest against what they said was a photograph posted on Facebook that insulted Islam.
The protesters said the picture had been posted by a Buddhist and they marched to Buddhist villages and set fire to temples and houses.
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