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Muslim terror cell opened fire on hikers

coldjoint said:
Salem was over 300 years ago. Historical violence is over, present violence isn't.
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But witch hunts are still alive and well it seems.

coldjoint said:
You have the truth about Muslims from their actions in Europe, and Africa. What makes you think America is different?
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So the actions of all Christians demonstrate Christianity...including murders and every heinous act done in "God's" name?
Your broad generalization amounts to bigotry. It is just sad that you can't see it.

coldjoint said:
Why is it hatred? Do you know the difference between hate and awareness? Now you do.
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Yes. Awareness does not use false articles and does not insert suspicions in the place of facts. Hatred does that.

coldjoint said:
Their scripture contains abrogation. Look it up.
And where is the violence in the NT?
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Jesus indicated that the entire OT is true...thus you don't get to pick and choose the parts of the Bible you want to use, unless you are Jewish.
But you already said the past doesn't matter and since the Bible is from the past it doesn't matter.
 
Somerville said:
You were the one who asked the question: And where is the violence in the NT? I was simply asking if that meant you only used the books found in the New Testament - well some of them anyway - as the foundation for your faith.
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I never mentioned my faith. But thanks for the information.
 
coldjoint said:
If you saw the earlier post, Jihad(killing for Allah) has taken 270 million lives.

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Care to provide source(s) for your claim as to the number of humans killed by jihadists. A quick search has found little if any support for such a number
 
Ntharotep said:
But witch hunts are still alive and well it seems.


So the actions of all Christians demonstrate Christianity...including murders and every heinous act done in "God's" name?
Your broad generalization amounts to bigotry. It is just sad that you can't see it.


Yes. Awareness does not use false articles and does not insert suspicions in the place of facts. Hatred does that.


Jesus indicated that the entire OT is true...thus you don't get to pick and choose the parts of the Bible you want to use, unless you are Jewish.
But you already said the past doesn't matter and since the Bible is from the past it doesn't matter.
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Most of what I said has nothing to do with the article. Why don't you tell us about Islams hatred of non-Muslims and Western civilization?

And which hunts continue in Saudi Arabia. Did you know that?


Saudi Arabia's War on Witchcraft
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Saudi Arabia's War on Witchcraft - The Atlantic
 
coldjoint said:
You can put Snopes where the snopes don't shine. Why don't you tell me what 15 Muslim men are doing in a remote area?
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Same thing 15 Christian men are doing? Hunting?
 
coldjoint said:
Most of what I said has nothing to do with the article. Why don't you tell us about Islams hatred of non-Muslims and Western civilization?

And which hunts continue in Saudi Arabia. Did you know that?

Saudi Arabia's War on Witchcraft - The Atlantic
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Witch hunts continue here in America to, with this article and your support of it.
Why don't you stick to the OP you brought us or admit it is pointless, has nothing to do with the real world, and start a new general hate thread on Islam.
The switch and bait show of "Look an article on killing hikers...oh wait no hikers were killed but ISLAM BAD!" really doesn't work.
 
coldjoint said:
Telling you what Islam is about and that you should be aware is not a story. The article became irrelevant after a few replies.
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What I should be aware about is you posting a false story, but that is OK up to a point, everybody can get it wrong sometimes. But then it started in a "why I hate Islam" thread and it is no longer about the alleged shooting by Muslims.

And that is the story we ought to be talking about. And not by why you hate Islam, let me count the ways.
 
The part of the story I don't like is the men were harassed at all. Our sheriff dept is awesome, Im suprized they took it as far as they did. A bunch of us were shooting clays out in a place called Johnson valley. Some weenie called and complained. 2 sheriff SUVs rolled up on us, checked us out, asked if the kids were hitting clays, and said have fun and be safe.

A shame these guys were detained at all.
 
American said:
I thought it was a hoax.
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What is true: the police where called in about gunshots. They and the FBI went in, found a bunch of guys having fun, shooting off guns. The guys cooperated, the guns where legal, no crime was committed.

What is not true: pretty much everything else. No Muslims(probably, though not for sure, the actual police report does not say), no shooting at hikers, no turbans(one guy had a scarf), no "allah akbar".
 
Redress said:
What is true: the police where called in about gunshots. They and the FBI went in, found a bunch of guys having fun, shooting off guns. The guys cooperated, the guns where legal, no crime was committed.

What is not true: pretty much everything else. No Muslims(probably, though not for sure, the actual police report does not say), no shooting at hikers, no turbans(one guy had a scarf), no "allah akbar".
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No allah Akbar??
 
Redress said:
What is true: the police where called in about gunshots. They and the FBI went in, found a bunch of guys having fun, shooting off guns. The guys cooperated, the guns where legal, no crime was committed.

What is not true: pretty much everything else. No Muslims(probably, though not for sure, the actual police report does not say), no shooting at hikers, no turbans(one guy had a scarf), no "allah akbar".
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No beheadings either? **** this ****!!!
 
I didn't know they had found guns...I thought they had not.
If guns were involved that changes everything. They were probably shooting at airplanes!

*For the sarcastically impaired
 
Redress said:
What is true: the police where called in about gunshots. They and the FBI went in, found a bunch of guys having fun, shooting off guns. The guys cooperated, the guns where legal, no crime was committed.

What is not true: pretty much everything else. No Muslims(probably, though not for sure, the actual police report does not say), no shooting at hikers, no turbans(one guy had a scarf), no "allah akbar".
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And Muslims generally don't wear turbans, Sikh's do.
 
coldjoint said:
You have the truth about Muslims from their actions in Europe, and Africa. What makes you think America is different?
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then there is no need to twist anything or to misrepresent the truth

i refuse to allow fear to twist my perspective and reality

it is dangerous and will bring no good for anyone
 
coldjoint said:
Xenophobia, or any phobia, is not fact based. Muslims in the US are radicalized every day. The suspicion, and the fears, are warranted.
And, I contend, that dismissing such things and putting the onus on Americans only helps the radicals.
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FACT is white folks are being radicalized everyday if the Oregon loonies are any sign of how radical white folks are becoming. The suspicion, and the fears are warranted... :roll:

Before you continue to use faux reports as 'proof' perhaps an old tale of a boy, a flock of sheep and the threat of wolves should guide you...

Be careful how many times you cry wolf and it be false... :peace
 
OrphanSlug said:
This sort of erroneous fear mongering "journalism" is going to cause problem after problem. Worse, several sources seem to be doing this purposefully.

The debate is over, there is a business model speaking to this nation's xenophobia. A real model of taking a decreasing segment of our population and making them increasingly scared and/or angry at any perceived opposition.

Take a wild stab in the dark at what the likely conclusion of this will be...
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Do tell........
 
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