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Musk & Trump are fighting over which one of them can make the US a more unequal & savage place

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"As the war between Donald Trump and Elon Musk worsens, what’s truly odd about this whole spectacle is that the actual substantive disagreement between them seems to be of little interest to media observers. And when you strip away the trolling and shitposting, here’s what becomes clear: This is really a battle over how comprehensively to screw over poor and working people, largely to the benefit of the wealthy.

...Musk is angry about the $2.4 trillion those changes would add to the debt. But, crucially, he’s said little—if anything—about the role that those tax cuts for the rich would have in that outcome. He is primarily obsessed with the bill’s “pork,” meaning that he wants the bill to cut more spending—much, much more. Where would that money come from? Musk’s cuts via his Department of Government Efficiency have already decimated foreign aid and other programs, producing more starvation, disease, and death among the global poor. Given that DOGE searched for “waste, fraud, and abuse” and found very little, if Musk wants massive additional cuts, by definition they would fall more heavily on important government programs, almost certainly ones that low-income Americans rely upon.

...Trump, who’s mindful of the MAGA-GOP’s image as a “working-class party,” has insisted the GOP won’t cut Medicaid and will target only fraud. That’s a lie—even some MAGA Republicans warn that the bill’s deep Medicaid cuts will hammer Trump’s working-class base and, in so doing, expose how Trump is betraying MAGA’s “populist” aura. Indeed, Trump is actively deceiving his base by pretending those cuts only target fraud. Musk, similarly, would use the “waste, fraud, and abuse” canard to absolutely annihilate the state if he could.


For Trump and Musk alike, the U.S. state provides opportunities for seemingly endless grasping and taking. It’s something to manipulate for megalomaniacal ends—though Musk imagines he’s saving human “consciousness” in doing so, while Trump is largely using it to line his family’s pockets and build chintzy gold-plated playgrounds abroad for the pleasure of the global superrich. In the end, Musk would use deficit fears to gut the state more thoroughly than Trump would, while Trump seems more focused on dramatically reducing the tax burden of the wealthy and slashing the safety net to pay for it. They are at odds, but mainly because they merely fall at different places on the same spectrum of impulses. And those impulses all tilt toward the same place—toward making our society a less egalitarian, more unequal, meaner, crueler, and much more savage place."

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What the MSM doesn't tell us.
 
I believe that YOU believe this drivel.

Let's take a step back: Elon has autism. He has admittedly said (and we can see when he speaks) that he has Asperger's.

Trump gave him purpose and mission with DOGE. Regardless if you agree or not, his perspective. Trump took it away.

Have you ever abruptly changed plans with someone that has autism?

What happens?
 
I believe that YOU believe this drivel.

Let's take a step back: Elon has autism. He has admittedly (and we can see when he speaks) he has asperger's.

Trump gave him purpose and mission with DOGE. Regardless if you agree or not, his perspective. Trump took it away.

Have you ever abruptly changed plans with someone that has autism?

What happens?

This has nothing to do with the topic, btw.
 
I believe that YOU believe this drivel.

Let's take a step back: Elon has autism. He has admittedly said (and we can see when he speaks) that he has Asperger's.

Trump gave him purpose and mission with DOGE. Regardless if you agree or not, his perspective. Trump took it away.

Have you ever abruptly changed plans with someone that has autism?

What happens?
Oh dear lord.

Musk is the wealthiest man on the planet.

He doesn't need defending.
 
Oh dear lord.

Musk is the wealthiest man on the planet.

He doesn't need defending.
Mental disorders only affect the poor/middle class.

Got it.
 
Mental disorders only affect the poor/middle class.

Got it.
Hoo boy... maybe stop making Musk a victim here.

He is a grown man with an amount of wealth and power that is simply staggering to comprehend.

To frame this as Trump taking away a toy from Musk is just silly... since that toy is the US Government.
 
Trump gave him purpose and mission with DOGE. Regardless if you agree or not, his perspective. Trump took it away.

Have you ever abruptly changed plans with someone that has autism?

Abruptly? Musk announced he was stepping down over two months ago...

Mar 31, 2025
President Donald Trump shared an update on the future of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) after its chief architect, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, revealed last week that he plans to step down from his role as a special government employee by the end of May.​
 
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