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Musk claims that Trump is “in the Epstein files”

President Donald Trump can call out Mr. Elon Musk on the Epstein files comment simply by making the entire file public.

Regards, Stay safe 'n well . . . informed.
Shall we wait with baited breath?
 
Low effort response.

"2 weeks" - Healthcare....never came to fruition
"Ceasefire to begin immediately" - still on-going fighting between Russia and Ukraine
"BBB to reduce deficit" - CBO and others claiming the complete opposite

Only a few times he spoke, and was proven to be a complete lie.

Of course MAGA believe him.
The biggest single-issue Trump ran on, border enforcement. was accomplished in a matter of weeks. Inflation is down, and he is addressing the US subsidizing everyone else on trade, prescription meds, etc. I can be patient on the rest.
 
The biggest single-issue Trump ran on, border enforcement. was accomplished in a matter of weeks. Inflation is down, and he is addressing the US subsidizing everyone else on trade, prescription meds, etc. I can be patient on the rest.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Holy ****ing shit.
His blatant lie about healthcare was back in 2019. That lying sack of shit even produced blank copies of the supposed "plan" to make it seem like something was happening.
And MAGA slurp it up.
 
So saying that about one's daughter is cool? Maybe in your neck of the woods.............
I would not have said it in that way; however it was just his way of stating that his daughter is beautiful. Nothing to be obsessed over for years. Bill Clinton has said worse.
 
I would not have said it in that way; however it was just his way of stating that his daughter is beautiful. Nothing to be obsessed over for years. Bill Clinton has said worse.
I think my daughter is beautiful, but never has it crossed my mind to say "I'd date her if she wasn't my daughter."
That is disgusting.
But hey, MAGA cheer that.
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Holy ****ing shit.
His blatant lie about healthcare was back in 2019. That lying sack of shit even produced blank copies of the supposed "plan" to make it seem like something was happening.
And MAGA slurp it up.
Severe TDS destroys your objectivity. We have been subsidizing prescription meds for every nation but our own for decades.
 
I think my daughter is beautiful, but never has it crossed my mind to say "I'd date her if she wasn't my daughter."
That is disgusting.
But hey, MAGA cheer that.
Bill Clinton upon viewing a mummified 12-14 year old Inca girl joked that he would date her. And I would bet that you voted for him twice.

 
The biggest single-issue Trump ran on, border enforcement. was accomplished in a matter of weeks.
I thought it was build the wall? Then repeal and replace? Recall trump's health care plan that was going to be so much better and so much cheaper? Oh yeah... he told those lies last time.

Inflation is down...
It has been trending down for the past 3 years.

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, and he is addressing the US subsidizing everyone else on trade, prescription meds, etc. I can be patient on the rest.
He's made a real mess of global trade. Tariffs are taxes on America. Inflation is sure to follow as prices rise. All that was wholly unnecessary, and accomplished nothing.

Prescription drugs? What has he done?

Bringing shitty jobs back from China won't ever work, and we don't want those jobs here.

The sad reality is that our nation would be significantly better today if trump had done noting but play golf since he took office.

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You've already lied several times. You can run your mouth but you're doing it for your own benefit. Maybe you should see if you could be an anchor for CNN.

Really? You say I’ve lied but make no case to support it.

I don’t just say things. I point to why I say them. I make the case that underpins my opinion.

History will speak to this eventually, and as I’ve stated I’m more than comfortable with how I’ve read this.

I’ll take it a step further and state that by the end of this term most working and middle class supporters of Trump will be suffering buyer’s remorse. It’s started already. Occuring:



More Trump voters regret choice, non-voters lean Harris

Percent responding to the question "Regardless of who you voted for last time, if the U.S. was holding a do-over election today, who would you vote for?"

Trump %Harris %Other/Would not vote
8659
1927
51976
223642




Data: Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll of 1,000 U.S. adults conducted May 1-6, 2025
Source: gelliottmorris.com
Verasight
 
Ad hominem arguments don't impress me.

I’m not attacking the messenger in this. Trump is the message. His past behavior and the public record on it the evidence that makes that case. The failure of Trump supporters to recognize the obvious is the message as well. The disregarding of what was obvious to the rest of us very much the case being made.
 
The biggest single-issue Trump ran on, border enforcement. was accomplished in a matter of weeks.
The border was #2. The economy was #1.

Inflation is down,
Do you know why?

and he is addressing the US subsidizing everyone else on trade, prescription meds, etc.
???

The US government subsidizes US sectors. The US government does not subsidize foreign industry. The US does grant foreign aid, which may purchase prescription drugs, but this is diplomacy, mostly, not at all connected to trade or drug manufacture.

Trump has you confused. Trade imbalances occur naturally between individuals, companies, and by extension, nations. Nations don't trade with each other. Companies do. Companies then trade with customers, the vast majority of which are end-users. When you add up a subset of these freely made transactions, you will arrive at an imbalance. There is only one possible measurement that arrives at trade equality, and that would be a measure of total global exports vs total global imports. Any other measurement involving any other subset will show an imbalance. I image with infinite iterations, we would see balances occur at the moment trade passed the threshold of equality, in one direction or another.

But enough with logic, we're talking about the real world. My ECON texts were instructive. Were yours? Or were they riddled with "TDS?"

I can be patient on the rest.
So, blinders rather than head in the sand.
 
I’m not attacking the messenger in this. Trump is the message. His past behavior and the public record on it the evidence that makes that case. The failure of Trump supporters to recognize the obvious is the message as well. The disregarding of what was obvious to the rest of us very much the case being made.

Your argument was that those who don't accept your opinion are stupid.
 
Watching the forum's geriatric right wing brigade show up to deflect from Trump being in the Epstein files is hilarious.

Man, I could never spend my 70s defending pedos and child traffickers.

🤣
 
Your argument was that those who don't accept your opinion are stupid.

My argument is precisely what I stated it is.

Then I added it could be understood given US literacy stats.

Two connected, but separate thoughts.
 
My argument is precisely what I stated it is.

Then I added it could be understood given US literacy stats.

Two connected, but separate thoughts.

Yep, you connected non-acceptance of your opinion to the lack of intelligence of those who don't accept it. Classic ad hom fallacy.
 
Yep, you connected non-acceptance of your opinion to the lack of intelligence of those who don't accept it. Classic ad hom fallacy.

The Reader’s Digest of what I’ve suggested is that the election of an obvious criminal (not my opinion, he’s a convicted criminal), whose policy is decidedly going to benefit one economic class at the cost of two other economic classes of this nation by anyone other than the one economic class being benefitted is a bit dopey by the two classes who will be negatively impacted.

I’m fairly comfortable with the common sense of that opinion.
 
The Reader’s Digest of what I’ve suggested is that the election of an obvious criminal (not my opinion, he’s a convicted criminal), whose policy is decidedly going to benefit one economic class at the cost of two other economic classes of this nation by anyone other than the one economic class being benefitted is a bit dopey by the two classes who will be negatively impacted.

I’m fairly comfortable with the common sense of that opinion.

That you are happy with your justification of fallacy is predictable.
 
That you are happy with your justification of fallacy is predictable.

Make the case. I’ve made mine. Public record back it up.

That which is fully documented in the public record is reality, not fallacy.
 
I would not have said it in that way; however it was just his way of stating that his daughter is beautiful. Nothing to be obsessed over for years. Bill Clinton has said worse.
So you would say such a thing? Or have no problem is someone close to you said something like that to their daughter?

Odd. I find it extremely creepy.
 
Bill Clinton upon viewing a mummified 12-14 year old Inca girl joked that he would date her. And I would bet that you voted for him twice.

Interesting....I googled that and couldn't find it anywhere. Help us out here with a link.
 
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