Navy Pride
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Navy Pride said:Did anyoine see Congressman Murtha on Meet the Press Today? I truly believe senility has set in on this guy.......He has gone of the deep end and contradicts himself constantly.........He is hurting our troops in Iraq..He called our military broken again.......I don't care if he is a career military man or not...........He is a partiansan hack and is giving aid and comfort to the enemy....
He needs to seek professional help.............
danarhea said:Lets see here....
Murtha, a Marine who has been there.
OR
Bush, who volunteered to keep the skies of Texas safe from Viet Cong attacks, but couldnt stay off the sauce long enough to take a flight physical, which got him suspended from flying.
I'll put my money on Murtha's credibility.
disneydude said:Senile? Is that the new right wing ploy to discredit Murtha. I thought Murtha was great and made a nice case about the ineptness of Bush. I can't believe the hypocrasy of the right wing when it comes to Murtha and even Kerry for that matter. They love to play the patriot card and then they engage in cheap attacks against people who served this Country HONORABLY.
I agree....I would take Murtha's opinion over GWB any day.
Captain America said:Imagine that. A politician telling the truth. Better get him to a shrink. Fast!:shock:
Attack and smear the messenger. A messenger who served our country honorably in so many ways. How low will these people stoop?
What's that you're always saying about "sniping" and "derailing the topic"?danarhea said:Lets see here....
Murtha, a Marine who has been there.
OR
Bush, who volunteered to keep the skies of Texas safe from Viet Cong attacks, but couldnt stay off the sauce long enough to take a flight physical, which got him suspended from flying.
I'll put my money on Murtha's credibility.
danarhea said:I'll put my money on Murtha's credibility.
KCConservative said:What's that you're always saying about "sniping" and "derailing the topic"?
aps said:So is it okay for Murtha to have an opinion that differs from yours? I am addressing this to anyone who claims that Murtha is senile. Can you agree that what Murtha is saying has a plausible basis? With close to 60% of Americans NO LONGER supporting this war, Murtha clearly isn't alone. It would be one thing if he was saying something that was just totally out there, but those of you who are saying he needs help are just blowing smoke to attack the messenger. How sad.
Captain America said:Better sic the SwiftBoaters on him!
Just my opinion....BUT.....a little more than three people outta 10 still believe the Bush line of crapola. And the 3+ people that still swallow it, will never admit they might have remotely been wrong. It goes with the psyche make-up of such individuals. A proud bunch they are. But who cares? There's only three of 'em? Insignificant.:rofl
Navy Pride said:I love it the way you liberals and Bush haters always jump on the swiftboat vets and the medal of honor winners who fought very bravely for our country in the Vietnam conflict..............:roll:
Navy Pride said:I love it the way you liberals and Bush haters always jump on the swiftboat vets and the medal of honor winners who fought very bravely for our country in the Vietnam conflict..............:roll:
aps said:The SwiftBoat Veterans ran a campaign against John Kerry. It was utterly despicable. When I am faced with documentation that was created contemporaneously with the Vietnam Conflict versus statements from men who are Bush supporters and attack John Kerry's service while he is running for president against George Bush, which of these two will I accord more probative value? Documentation created contemporaneoulsy to incidents in service or statements made approximately 40 years after service during a presidential election? I just can't decide? *sarcasm*
The SwiftBoat veterans are utter scum. I have NO regard for their service.
Deegan said:I don't think the man is "senile" but I do think he is wrong to suggest our military is broken! They are certainly stretched, tired, and probably need a long break from this conflict, but broken is not the appropriate term for our military, and this man should choose his words more carefully.
Navy Pride said:Deegan, did you see the interview on Meet the Press with Tim Russert......You might feel different if you did.........
Navy Pride said:Wow, that is not like you aps.....The Swiftboat vets are people that served with Kerry in Vietnam.........Democrats and Republicans alike.They know this man better then any of us.........At the very least there are questions that have not been answered about his service there........He made his service in the military the issue when he stepped up and said "Reporting for Duty.".......
He has stated over and over again that he would release his form 180 that details his duty in Iraq but he has not done it.....................
There was a picture published during the campaign last year showing the Swiftboat Officers that served with him in Iraq....There was about 20 officers in the picture and only 2 of them supported Kerry............
At the very least that has to make you wonder........
Deegan said:I did, he was struggling to legitimize his past comments, and not doing a very good job of it. It's sad that he has chosen the military to make his political points with the left, but he has been exposed IMO, and he had no where to run from his own words. He looked like a very angry, very frustrated man, I guess that could be confused as senile, but I just think it's more like desperation at this point.
You mean books like these?aps said:Navy Pride, I have no respect for anyone who publishes a book bashing someone on a difference of opinion.
aps said:Navy Pride, I have no respect for anyone who publishes a book bashing someone on a difference of opinion. I mean, really. I would be ashamed to do that sort of thing, but I have class and would never stoop to such a level. Kerry's service has been advertised since he became a senator decades ago. Just because he says, "Reporting for Duty," that is an invitation to have his service attacked?
Again, Navy Pride, so if Kerry's service was so horrendous, why did they wait for him to run for president to publish a book bashing his service? So Kerry subsequently changed his mind and no longer supported the war. Are you telling me that people who serve in combat can't change their minds after they have personally witnessed disturbing situations? We're all different, and none of us really knows what kind of impact combat would have on ourselves.
The fact that people disagree as to Kerry's service means nothing to me. It's a fact of life. Bush was able to find ways to attack John McCain's service, and he was a prisoner of war for more than 5 years. Gee, I wonder how that was possible, considering that Bush never served a day of "active duty" in his life.
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