Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions[W:460]

[Cardinal]

The U.S. special counsel investigating possible ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russia in last year’s election is examining a broad range of transactions involving Trump’s businesses as well as those of his associates, according to a person familiar with the probe.

The president told the New York Times on Wednesday that any digging into matters beyond Russia would be out of bounds. Trump’s businesses have involved Russians for years, making the boundaries fuzzy so Special Counsel Robert Mueller appears to be taking a wide-angle approach to his two-month-old probe.

The roots of Mueller’s follow-the-money investigation lie in a wide-ranging money laundering probe launched by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara last year, according to the person.

FBI agents had already been gathering information about Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, according to two people with knowledge of that probe. Prosecutors hadn’t yet begun presenting evidence to a grand jury. Trump fired Bharara in March.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions

It's been my opinion for the past couple months that it will be finances and not Russian collusion that will end up being the most harmful story for the Trump administration. This is supported by years of assiduously refusing to reveal his tax returns, and a damning paragraph in yesterday's NYTimes article only underscores the point:

Asked if Mr. Mueller’s investigation would cross a red line if it expanded to look at his family’s finances beyond any relationship to Russia, Mr. Trump said, “I would say yes.” He would not say what he would do about it. “I think that’s a violation. Look, this is about Russia.”

Trump absolutely loathes the Russia story because, if we accept Trump's own statements, he feels Russian interference and the investigation into collusion undermines the legitimacy of his Presidency. To put the the financial aspect into perspective, he prefers that we focus on Russia.

 

[apdst]

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It's officially a witch hunt.

 

[Cardinal]

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It's officially a witch hunt.

[editor: insert Inigio Montoya meme here]

 

[Winchester]

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It's officially a witch hunt.

Well... there be witches.

 

[TheGoverness]

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More fake news from the Democrat MSM, and the Secret Kenyan Muslim Obama Deep State. Sad!

 

[Lutherf]

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This is setting an untenable precedent.

The next time a Democrat gets into office the Republicans are going to spend the entire first term investigating them for any potential, possible, devastating to national security contacts with unsavory characters. Then the next Republican elected will be water boarded until they confess to something and the circle will continue.

This isn't about politics and it's not about national security. It's about a political outsider getting elected and the political insiders getting their panties in a bunch. That's all it's about and the shenanigans really need to stop.

 

[NeverTrump]

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions

It's been my opinion for the past couple months that it will be finances and not Russian collusion that will end up being the most harmful story for the Trump administration. This is supported by years of assiduously refusing to reveal his tax returns, and a damning paragraph in yesterday's NYTimes article only underscores the point:



Trump absolutely loathes the Russia story because, if we accept Trump's own statements, he feels Russian interference and the investigation into collusion undermines the legitimacy of his Presidency. To put the the financial aspect into perspective, he prefers that we focus on Russia.

Trump's now looking to fire mueller and AG Sessions!!!! Trump is falling apart



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[Cardinal]

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This is setting an untenable precedent.

The next time a Democrat gets into office the Republicans are going to spend the entire first term investigating them for any potential, possible, devastating to national security contacts with unsavory characters. Then the next Republican elected will be water boarded until they confess to something and the circle will continue.

This isn't about politics and it's not about national security. It's about a political outsider getting elected and the political insiders getting their panties in a bunch. That's all it's about and the shenanigans really need to stop.

What untenable precedent? History did not begin on January 28, 2017.

 

[polgara]

Re: Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions

This is setting an untenable precedent.

The next time a Democrat gets into office the Republicans are going to spend the entire first term investigating them for any potential, possible, devastating to national security contacts with unsavory characters. Then the next Republican elected will be water boarded until they confess to something and the circle will continue.

This isn't about politics and it's not about national security. It's about a political outsider getting elected and the political insiders getting their panties in a bunch. That's all it's about and the shenanigans really need to stop.

Greetings, Lutherf. :2wave:

:agree: 100%! :thumbs:

 

[Grand Mal]

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More fake news from the Democrat MSM, and the Secret Kenyan Muslim Obama Deep State. Sad!

And Rosie O'Donnell. Don't forget Rosie O'Donnell.

 

[Lutherf]

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What untenable precedent? History did not begin on January 28, 2017.

"Setting a precedent", Cardinal, "setting".

 

[Cardinal]

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"Setting a precedent", Cardinal, "setting".

Yes, I saw that. What untenable precedent is being set?

 

[Grand Mal]

Re: Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions

This is setting an untenable precedent.

The next time a Democrat gets into office the Republicans are going to spend the entire first term investigating them for any potential, possible, devastating to national security contacts with unsavory characters. Then the next Republican elected will be water boarded until they confess to something and the circle will continue.

This isn't about politics and it's not about national security. It's about a political outsider getting elected and the political insiders getting their panties in a bunch. That's all it's about and the shenanigans really need to stop.

One difference is, this isn't the Democrats doing the investigating. Mueller's a life-long Republican.
This is like that snake swallowing itself.

 

[Hawkeye10]

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Mueller is either out to get Trump for the elite or he is not as smart as I have hoped...75/25.

Desperation to off-load THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE seems to have set in.

 

[Mach]

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All that money and power and ego, with Russia of all partners...it's hard to imagine how they could have had dealings for that long and NOT cross some lines. If he'd have really been disciplined and thought he'd have had a career in politics, he'd have thought twice about it...
Thinking about it now? Too little too late.

This is setting an untenable precedent.
The next time a Democrat gets into office the Republicans are going to spend the entire first term investigating them for any potential, possible, devastating to national security contacts with unsavory characters. .

Gosh, replace "national security contacts" with [any dirt at all that they can find], and it's been done basically every election cycle. What a precedent!

 

[Mac77]

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions

It's been my opinion for the past couple months that it will be finances and not Russian collusion that will end up being the most harmful story for the Trump administration. This is supported by years of assiduously refusing to reveal his tax returns, and a damning paragraph in yesterday's NYTimes article only underscores the point:



Trump absolutely loathes the Russia story because, if we accept Trump's own statements, he feels Russian interference and the investigation into collusion undermines the legitimacy of his Presidency. To put the the financial aspect into perspective, he prefers that we focus on Russia.

Stalin's most trusted henchman once told him "Show me the man and I will find you the crime."

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions

It's been my opinion for the past couple months that it will be finances and not Russian collusion that will end up being the most harmful story for the Trump administration. This is supported by years of assiduously refusing to reveal his tax returns, and a damning paragraph in yesterday's NYTimes article only underscores the point:



Trump absolutely loathes the Russia story because, if we accept Trump's own statements, he feels Russian interference and the investigation into collusion undermines the legitimacy of his Presidency. To put the the financial aspect into perspective, he prefers that we focus on Russia.

Russian banking and Trump finances may bring him down before political collusion, but down he will come.

 

[JamesBY]

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And, yes, let's fully vet our candidates before hand, hmmm.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Re: Mueller Expands Probe to Trump Business Transactions

This is setting an untenable precedent.

The next time a Democrat gets into office the Republicans are going to spend the entire first term investigating them for any potential, possible, devastating to national security contacts with unsavory characters. Then the next Republican elected will be water boarded until they confess to something and the circle will continue.

This isn't about politics and it's not about national security. It's about a political outsider getting elected and the political insiders getting their panties in a bunch. That's all it's about and the shenanigans really need to stop.

I believe that was set in the Trump admin (cant remember which term the issues started)

But it was a full investigation into Clinton's entire life, I believe it was supposed to be just whitewater but the eventual thing that got him was perjury about a blow job

To say that Trump is facing something that has never happened before is not exactly true as just three presidents before had faced something so far worse.

I do expect that Trump will be caught on something more serious than a blow job, like Cardinal said most likely money laundering for Russian oligarchs

 

[Mach]

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Stalin's most trusted henchman once told him "Show me the man and I will find you the crime."

That's how our legal system works Mac77, maybe you live under a rock?

Remember when Republicans kept investigating Benghazi in order to weaken Clinton for the 2016 election, hearing after hearing, and at some point they found the email server, and then hammered her on that, and then they found Weiner's misdeeds, and he got busted for that....

Wait, didn't that happen to Bill Clinton too? Ending with an affair discovery?

Are you saying Republicans were wrong to do that, or they were doing what investigations do? It's simple another example of how things work, why would you suggest in Trump's case this should not be how it works? Mueller is a Republican, appointed by Republicans, investigated a RINO (Trump), and financial ties to Russia are EXACTLY what he's supposed to be investigating. If anything, Mueller is far more in the "obviously appropriate" zone of investigation, as compared to what Republican attacks on Democrats that are not so credible...like to do.

Please be specific, because I know you're' such a normally credible poster that I'd hate to see you get another post wrong.

 

[Mac77]

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That's how our legal system works Mac77, maybe you live under a rock?

Remember when Republicans kept investigating Benghazi in order to weaken Clinton for the 2016 election, hearing after hearing, and at some point they found the email server, and then hammered her on that, and then they found Weiner's misdeeds, and he got busted for that....

Wait, didn't that happen to Bill Clinton too? Ending with an affair discovery?

Are you saying Republicans were wrong to do that, or they were doing what investigations do? It's simple another example of how things work, why would you suggest in Trump's case this should not be how it works?

Please be specific, because I know you're' such a normally credible poster that I'd hate to see you get another post wrong.

We kept investigating bengazhi because 4 Americans were killed by a terrorist mob while obama and clinton failed to lift a finger to save them

 

[Fenton]

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-expand-probe-to-trump-business-transactions

It's been my opinion for the past couple months that it will be finances and not Russian collusion that will end up being the most harmful story for the Trump administration. This is supported by years of assiduously refusing to reveal his tax returns, and a damning paragraph in yesterday's NYTimes article only underscores the point:



Trump absolutely loathes the Russia story because, if we accept Trump's own statements, he feels Russian interference and the investigation into collusion undermines the legitimacy of his Presidency. To put the the financial aspect into perspective, he prefers that we focus on Russia.

Inching closer and closer to a modern day civil war

Trunp and GOP supporters have fresh memories of Hillary walking after Comey took it upon himself to not refer her crimes to the DOJ, just as we have fresh memories of much of the corruption that happened under the Obama administration.

The Democrats forcing Trump out of office its not going to make GOP voters or even Trump supporters switch sides.

On the contrary. Hope its worth it for the party that responded to the election loss by throwing the worlds biggest temper tantrum

 

[Mach]

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We kept investigating bengazhi because 4 Americans were killed by a terrorist mob while obama and clinton failed to lift a finger to save them

So you agree that you were wrong to suggest Mueller should not follow the money during the course of his investigation? By "be specific", I meant in response to by rebuttal of the ignorant claim you made.

 

[Cardinal]

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Inching closer and closer to a modern day civil war

Trunp and GOP supporters have fresh memories of Hillary walking after Comey took it upon himself to not refer it to the DOJ, just as we have fresh memories of much of the corruption that happened under the Obama administration.

The Democrats worcing Trump out of office its not going to make GOP voters pr even Trump supporters switch sides.

On the contrary.

Trump, a Republican, appointed Sessions, another Republican, to be Attorney General. He also appointed Rosenstein, another Republican, to be Deputy Attorney General. Then Trump fired Comey, a Republican, to stop the FBI's Russia investigation. Therefore Rosenstein appointed Mueller, a Republican, to be Special Counsel.

 

[Mac77]

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So you agree that you were wrong to suggest Mueller should not follow the money during the course of his investigation? By "be specific", I meant in response to by rebuttal of the ignorant claim you made.

Mueller is conducting a witch hunt with no specific crime in mind

The republicans were trying to get to the bottom of a specific incident and no more