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Mrs. Bill Clinton blatherings

SouthernDemocrat said:
Actually, we have been loosing industrial jobs for 30 years now. Industry used to be the largest portion of our GDP, now it only makes up 20% of GDP. I am not saying that is either a good or a bad thing, but to argue that we are creating more industrial and auto industry jobs than we are loosing is absolutely ludicrous.

The share of the total workforce engaged in working in manufacturing has been declining for decades, not just here but worldwide. Why? Because we increase productivity and not as high a share of laborers are needed to produce an increasing supply of goods. And we are becoming more educated and the higher the education one has the less one wants to be a laborer. Is that bad? We have fewer farmers, LOTS fewer farmers because we have automated farming. Would it be better to have to have more people on farms or on assembly lines? And just as has happened historically in this country many of those jobs up north are moving to the South (as did for instance textiles throughout the 20th Century).

That being said we still have a need for workers in manufacturing here in the South just as I said.

Moreover, it’s almost just as ludicrous for Hillary to argue that electing Democrats would change that.

Absolutly.
 
jfuh said:
And this matters with respect to my argument how?

Again, this is relevant to my argument in what way?

It was clear in my post.

Let's start with the outflow of currency to strengthen the economies of foreign countries. The non-legal standing of american law with applicability to foriegn coorperations. That then eventually the american economy is incharge of foreign coorperations whose loyalty lies not with the US.

Really unrelateable response to what you're quoting of me. Again, it's not what I'm arguing now is it?

Anyway the auto industry is doing just fine right here.

And that is not clear at all and I have no idea what you are arguing at all.
 
Stinger said:
Since when does that give one spouse the right to serially abuse the marriage? It's not better for the child to grow up in a marriage where one spouse abuses it repeatedly. What does that teach the child? It's OK to do it.
Is that what I responded to? or is that what I said in anyway or seemed to imply? Nice try to tangent my argument. You asked why Hilary would stay in the marriage and that is my answer.

Stinger said:
I can't speak for her but once might be a mistake. When it becomes normal behavior. Remember he went on NATIONAL TV with her and said he made a mistake but that was all over. Guess what, he dishonored her again and again and again.
He did so after he admitted on national TV? Funny I didn't know that, I don't think anyone else knows that either. You have proof of this where?

Stinger said:
We most certainly can judge her on her actions when she is asking to be the leader of the country. And she stays with a man who has repeatedly degraded her and their marriage. It shows weakness on her part. Wedding vows are a two way street, once on partner violates them the other has not moral obligation to remain. If the other refuses to honor them after dishonor them the first time the other is a fool to remain.
I don't see how anyone's personal lifestyle shows any weakness or lack of strength there of in thier professional workmanship. Certainly no other president of any company ever has an affair oh no, they must be weak. Please. You're only going about partisanship that is completely based on nothing of relevance.

Stinger said:
Of course if she hadn't stayed her career would have been over as far as politics.
Lol, yep, no Republican ever had an affair or has been divorced. WHat planet are you from?
 
Stinger said:
It was clear in my post.

And that is not clear at all and I have no idea what you are arguing at all.
No, all you've done is change the argument to your favorite topics. You have not provided any rebuttle or answer to my posts. If you want to debate then respond to what I've posted as opposed to making up nonsense that I have not mentioned at all.
 
shuamort said:
Well, it sure doesn't look like MR. LAURA BUSH has brought the economy back to the end of Clintonian era figures:
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I'm sorry who? The only Laura Bush I'm aware of is a Mrs.
 
shuamort said:
Umm, the data is exactly the same except mine shows the end of the Clinton era presidency.. actually, the last 4 years... your graph further proves my point by showing a long history of decreasing unemployment. So before you go tooting your victory, realize that your point doesn't even make any sense and you haven't shown how the numbers would be slanted in "my" favor.

Well if that is the comparison then you have to wait until the "end of the Bush era Presidency" don't you. If you compare the current point in each era they are at a stastical dead heat. And I guess you should also note that Clinton inherited and downward trend and left Bush an upward trend.
 
But please tell us what is Mrs. Bill Clintons economic plan to keep unemployment at these very low percentages President Bush's policies have given us? For that matter how about he entire Democrat party, what have they proposed?
 
jfuh said:
Is that what I responded to? or is that what I said in anyway or seemed to imply? Nice try to tangent my argument. You asked why Hilary would stay in the marriage and that is my answer.

Yes it is what you responded to, try again. You excused her staying for because there was a child as if that excuse Bill and makes it better for the child for the other spouse to stay in an abusing marriage. But have you ever heard Mrs. Bill Clinton say that?

He did so after he admitted on national TV? Funny I didn't know that, I don't think anyone else knows that either. You have proof of this where?

You don't know much then do you. The infamous 60 Minute interview after the Jennifer Flowers tapes were made public. He admitted he had made mistakes but that was all behind them and Mrs. Bill Clinton sat there and took it only to have him violate thier marriage again and again and make a fool out her. Do you respect people who let others make fools out of them?

I don't see how anyone's personal lifestyle shows any weakness or lack of strength there of in thier professional workmanship.

You can't seperate the two.

Certainly no other president of any company ever has an affair oh no, they must be weak.

It's not about Mrs. Bill Clinton having multiple affairs, it's about her husband's total lack of respect for her and their marriage and making a fool of her.


Please. You're only going about partisanship that is completely based on nothing of relevance.

Sure you want to dismiss it, but it speaks volumes about her.

Lol, yep, no Republican ever had an affair or has been divorced. WHat planet are you from?

Hey if Bill Clinton had said that he could no longer live in a marriage he could not honor and that he and Mrs. Bill Clinton had grown apart and he divorced her, he would have done the honorable thing, but he choose to dishonor her and their marriage. Had Mrs. Bill Clinton after the 3rd or 4th or 5th time finally said "I have my own respect and life to live and I'm leaving this bum" she would have had a LOT more respect rather than allowing him to treat her as he does.
 
Stinger said:
But please tell us what is Mrs. Bill Clintons economic plan to keep unemployment at these very low percentages President Bush's policies have given us? For that matter how about he entire Democrat party, what have they proposed?

isnt the silence deafening
that is why the dems are out of power
 
jfuh said:
No, all you've done is change the argument to your favorite topics. You have not provided any rebuttle or answer to my posts. If you want to debate then respond to what I've posted as opposed to making up nonsense that I have not mentioned at all.

The topic is Mrs. Bill Clinton's blatherings and I'm right on top of it. So try again to be more clear.
 
Stinger said:
The topic is Mrs. Bill Clinton's blatherings and I'm right on top of it. So try again to be more clear.
No, all you've done is nothing but baseless partisan bickering about her personal lifestyles and so on. Then you go onto to purposefully misinterrpretting what she said, otherwise known as lieing.
Example, how did we start our debate. I stated that foreign companies regardless of where they produce, are not domestic companies. Thus there is no loyalty there and most laborers will have no say so with regards to anything. The government will have no sway over foreign companie's policies.
Sure you work for DM, that's fine, you get paid well great. But the profit margin that DM makes, guess where that money is Taxed, predominantly in Germany not in the US. Thus an incredulous decline in tax revenue and your labor is going into the construction and social services of the EU. Oh wow, that must hurt you a lot to think you're helping socialist Europe, especially even to be connected with France. Ouch.
 
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