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Mr. Trump, I love you

blaxshep said:
I think Trump figured he could run over the establishment politicians the same way im sure he runs over small businesses with his billion dollar empire, but he's playing with the big boys now, for once he's out of his league.
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At least in this environment.
 
Perotista said:
One has to remember that Trump received 12 million plus votes during the primaries. But over 16 million were cast against him. Then there is this, how many of those new GOP voters Trump supposedly brought into the Republican Party, how many were registered Democrats in their state that finally switched registration to Republican so they could vote for Trump during the GOP primaries? Here is an interesting read on that from 538.

Republicans’ Voter Registration Gains Probably Aren’t Gains At All | FiveThirtyEight

The thing is when it comes to policy or changing the direction of this country, all any president can do is trim or mess around the edges of government. Party doesn't matter when one considers where most of their cash comes from. Both parties owe their hearts and souls to corporations, Wall Street Firms, lobbyist, special interests, huge mega money donors and most of those I mentioned donate to both parties. So no matter who wins, the winner owes them. One also doesn't bite the hand that feeds you.

Then too most of the governmental departments, agencies, bureaus, projects and programs are run by unelected civil servants or bureaucrats. They were there before any president arrived and will be there after any president leaves. So you are correct, nothing changes.
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I can understand that for the primary but what about now? Some states are registering record numbers of GOP registrations.

Hope for Trump: GOP winning registration race in key states - POLITICO
 
yankintx said:
I would like to know how Trump was going to fund these deportations , and will Congress approve the funds? Its a pipe dream!#
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The second largest for of cash revenue received by Mexico, for example, results from money bled from the US Economy and sent back there. Perhaps there is a way to tap into that stream. Likely that would not cover it, so I can see where some additional thinking would be in order.
 
yankintx said:
I would like to know how Trump was going to fund these deportations , and will Congress approve the funds? Its a pipe dream!#
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I don't know what he has in mind, but I can think of a way to pay for it: Redirect any money that goes to sanctuary cities.
 
Mycroft said:
I don't know what he has in mind, but I can think of a way to pay for it: Redirect any money that goes to sanctuary cities.
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Wasn't approved by congress, may never be.
 
Perotista said:
Trump just took a long time to switch. Trump has been known to take a stance on an issue one day, take the opposite stance on the same issue the next day and then deny he even took a stance or said anything about it on the third day. This took a bit longer, but should be of no surprise. I don't think even Trump himself knows where he stands on the the issues. He really has no political philosophy or ideology. He goes with whatever pops into his head that day and it is ever changing.

But his supporters don't care about political ideology, they admire his fighting spirit regardless of where he stands on any of the issues. The issues themselves aren't important, it is the man and his persona, his fighting spirit and his political incorrectness. It use to be Republicans with a moderate to liberal point of view were labeled RINO's by his supporters. Today, since Trump is fairly liberal, it is the conservatives that are being labeled RINO's.

Conservatives Are The New RINOs

Perhaps Larry Sabato had it right concerning Trump's more liberal views than traditional Republican values and long held views. Sabato stated Trump was more of an independent running as a Republican. His political stances, quite a lot of them just do not hold water with the views of the Republican Party as a whole. In other words, Trump is pushing the GOP further left from the extreme right although the Democrats with their hatred of Trump or anyone with an R next to his name, will never admit that.
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I think this analysis is spot on. I think that this effort of Trumps is not to win over minorities... or even independents or moderates. I think its to try and win over republicans that have decided to stay home or vote libertarian because of his behavior. To me, it seems more that he is trying to tone down his behavior.. rather than really articulate a nuanced position.
 
Lovebug said:
Wasn't approved by congress, may never be.
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shrug...

Never know what Congress will approve if he's President. It won't be like trying to pass something when Obama was there.
 
Excon said:
People think he's switched or softened? Hilarious.
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There are actually some who think the lifelong Democrat, dear friend of Bill and Hillary, is suddenly a Republican. I heard he evolved but I don't thing evolution went from slime to speaking human in 20 minutes. Evolution is slower than that.
 
Patrickt said:
There are actually some who think the lifelong Democrat, dear friend of Bill and Hillary, is suddenly a Republican. I heard he evolved but I don't thing evolution went from slime to speaking human in 20 minutes. Evolution is slower than that.
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Anyone with a lot of money that needs a favor is a life long friend of the Clintons.

Trump probably has VIP status in the Clinton Foundation ... or had :lamo
 
blaxshep said:
Anyone with a lot of money that needs a favor is a life long friend of the Clintons.

Trump probably has VIP status in the Clinton Foundation ... or had :lamo
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Donald Trump and the Clintons travel in the same circles as the high-class elites like, well, Jeff Epstein.
 
Patrickt said:
Donald Trump and the Clintons travel in the same circles as the high-class elites like, well, Jeff Epstein.
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Funny thing is even if Trump wins he will probably need to donate to the Crime Family Foundation to get Slick Willy and Hillary to grease some wheels for his agendas.
 
blaxshep said:
Funny thing is even if Trump wins he will probably need to donate to the Crime Family Foundation to get Slick Willy and Hillary to grease some wheels for his agendas.
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Nah...more likely he'll donate money to them if they go away.

I don't think he'll have much luck, though. Those two are like herpes...they keep showing up at the wrong time.
 
jaeger19 said:
I think this analysis is spot on. I think that this effort of Trumps is not to win over minorities... or even independents or moderates. I think its to try and win over republicans that have decided to stay home or vote libertarian because of his behavior. To me, it seems more that he is trying to tone down his behavior.. rather than really articulate a nuanced position.
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Very possible. Trump has a lot of work ahead of him is he is to bring back that 20% or so faction that has joined the Never Trump parade. Once one has made enemies of some of his fellow Republican candidates and some of their supporters, that is very hard to walk back. I seen it before, 2012 in Florida. Romney threw all sorts of mud, negative personal attacks against Gingrich during the Florida GOP primary. Romney won. But a lot of Gingrich supporters were so peeved at Romney, they stayed home or voted third party, some even for Obama. Romney lost the state by less than a single percentage point. Having those Gingrich voters go to the polls to vote for him, those who voted third party and for Obama probably made the difference between Romney winning or losing Florida. Not that it made a difference in the overall outcome. But what gets said in the primaries, the enemies one makes or the feuds one creates can come back and haunt you in the general.

Gingrich gave Romney one of those non endorsement endorsement in the end. But he never campaign for him or urged his supporters to get out and vote for Romney. That probably cost Romney Florida.
 
tres borrachos said:
"But when I go through and I meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject, and I've had very strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me, and they've said, 'Mr. Trump, I love you, but to take a person who's been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and their family out, it's so tough, Mr. Trump,' I have it all the time! It's a very, very hard thing."

Aw, he must have been talking about the times he met Mickey some of the other Trumpkins. I love you!

"Let me go a step further- they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them," Trump said.

Isn't that amazing? That sounds just like what Marco Rubio proposed. And it sounds just like what that nasty establishment guy proposed. What was his name? Oh yes. Jeb!

His remarks were the latest in a series of recent interviews where he has said he is considering softening a previous pledge made at the onset of his campaign to deport 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. During a “Hannity” town hall on Tuesday, Trump said he was open to “softening” laws dealing with illegal immigrants.

Aw, he doesn't really want that mass deportation he promised you Trumpkins after all. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Trump...*gasp*....lied.

Trump says government can 'work with' illegal immigrants | Fox News

Don't blame me. I voted for the guy who proposed this already. The one who would be beating Hillary Clinton right now.

Thanks Trump supporters!
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I thought you had lost your goshdamned mind Tres... Glad to see you didn't.
 
Patrickt said:
There are actually some who think the lifelong Democrat, dear friend of Bill and Hillary, is suddenly a Republican. I heard he evolved but I don't thing evolution went from slime to speaking human in 20 minutes. Evolution is slower than that.
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iLOL
He is a Republican.
 
Excon said:
iLOL
He is a Republican.
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Really? I guess, if you believe in his amazing epiphany when the lifelong liberal Democrat realized he could not get the Democrat nomination with Sen. Clinton in the running. Then, oh, wait, I'm suddenly a Republican who is in favor of raising the federal minimum wage, in favor of taxpayer subsidies to Planned Parenthood, in favor of stricter gun control, in favor of further restrictions on free speech, in favor of greater government power with eminent domain, calls himself the King of Debt, and still lies like a liberal. He's going to deport all illegal aliens but now he's not. He's definitely opposed to illegal aliens except he defends his hiring of illegal aliens. He's opposed to having American products manufactured overseas unless they're his products. Donald Trump is totally supportive of veterans unless they sell trinkets near the building he lives in or we captured and suffered years of torture. Donald Trump is the man who says he always wins. How can a man with four bankrupt companies say he always wins. Easy if you count making money on the bankruptcy by stiffing the little people. A bully with a team of lawyers and ready lawsuits was taken to the woodshed by Vera Coking and he says he's a winner. And, then there's Trump University.

I suppose he is a Republican for those who believe him. The only thing he's running on that isn't a lie is that he isn't Hillary Clinton. He's a friend of hers but he isn't her. He's praised her as ready to be a wonderful president but he isn't her. And, he helped finance her campaigns, until now, but he isn't her. He couldn't be. She's rotten but at least she's tough.

I almost forgot. Donald Trump has been a devout Christian his whole life.

And Donald Trump says we need a President like the man who wrote "The Art of the Deal". That would be Tony Schwartz. I wonder why liberals keep hiring people to write their books for them?
 
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EvaPeron said:
You are ABSOLUTELY welcome. Oh, I'd like to thank you for the lies and fraud of the Clinton foundation and as our secretary of state, but that would just be one additional fraud upon the American people in her name.
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Can you Trump lovers ever focus to a topic without screaming about "HILLARY!"? Trump sure has you jumping at his beck and call, doesn't he?
 
cpwill said:
Yup. As foretold, Trump is changing his stance on immigration.

Astonishing.




Oh. You poor thing. You think he's beginning to do this?
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"Beginning to tell people what they want to hear so they'll elect him".

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MaggieD said:
Ain't it a shame when a republic has to abide by the votes? And isn't it beautiful to behold someone running for office that actually learns and changes his mind??

Personally, I kinda like it.

Conservatives who vote for Hillary Clinon are fools. And those who don't vote or vote for anyone besides Trump, are helping elect Clinton. They will deserve exactly what they'll get. Another at least four years closer to full-blown socialism.

Someday, perhaps your children or grandchildren will thank you?? I seriously doubt it, but one never knows.
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Nobody said we don't abide by the voters. That's how Barack Obama got into office. But I'm glad to see you endorsing Trump's flip flop. Yes, the precious outsider is actually a politician. Isn't that grand?

I never mentioned conservatives, and I never mentioned Hillary Clinton. This thread is about Trump. Please focus.

My children already thanked me for not being stupid enough to get duped by a liberal named Donald Trump.
 
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