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union busting is de rigeur, especially for blue executives
California budget: Democrats pass austerity budget - Los Angeles Times
Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely
Jerry Brown Budget Cuts | California budget: Gov. Jerry Brown approves cuts to services for poor, sick and elderly - Los Angeles Times
MA House votes to restrict unions - Boston.com
New Jersey Assembly Passes Bill That Requires Public Workers' Unions To Pay More For Benefits - WPIX
Emanuel Unveils Major Budget Cut On First Full Day « CBS Chicago
Governor Pat Quinn signs Illinois education reform bill into law, new rules effect school days, teacher strikes, tenure | abc7chicago.com
Detroit Moves Against Unions - WSJ.com
Union Deal Defeated; Gov. Malloy Pledges To Cut State Workers - CTnow
did you read yesterday about rahm the ram's air-traffic-controllers moment in chicago?
they wouldn't cooperate? he FIRED em IMMEDIATELY
Rahm Emanuel sends layoff notices to city workers in union showdown - Chicago Sun-Times
i don't think the locals are likely to mess with the ram as the mayor heads into what the sun times calls round two---the 700 million
these days, dem execs can get away with...
well, what would you call it?
Same as any other. Public workers are as concerned with working condition, wages, and compensation as the private sector. No matter who pays, the job is still ebing done, and all employees have the right to seek just compensation. If we don't like how well our leaders negotiate, find new leaders.
in a private sector negotiation the bargaining is at least honest
in public sector-often those "bargaining" with the unions have been put into office by those unions
You do knwo business puts in as many or more.
You do knwo business puts in as many or more. I'm sorry, but that argument really doesn't hold water.
I wouldn't be so sure of that
how can you dispute that? in union heavy areas the politicians are often beholden to the unions
how can you dispute that? in union heavy areas the politicians are often beholden to the unions
In NYS and NYC, we have politicians that are cutting union jobs, including teachers. Your claim is fiction.
And business. And anyone who gives them money. Shouldn't you be angery at our leaders? Isn't this attack of unions not only misplaced, but inconsistent without anger over all those who might have bought our leaders.
wow one area proves everything I said wrong? LOL, in Cincinnati, the City Council has been mainly dem for most of the last 30 years and the teachers union that runs the Cincinnati Public Schools is a major donor to almost all the last half dozen mayors and most of those in the majority. city council ultimately bargains with the unions concerning the Cincinnati Public Schools
How long has NYC being cutting union jobs?
Nah, not one. It's the same in Illinois, a Democratic state and Chicago specifically, a Democratic city. Try again.wow one area proves everything I said wrong? LOL, in Cincinnati, the City Council has been mainly dem for most of the last 30 years and the teachers union that runs the Cincinnati Public Schools is a major donor to almost all the last half dozen mayors and most of those in the majority. city council ultimately bargains with the unions concerning the Cincinnati Public Schools
How long has NYC being cutting union jobs?
the issue was what good does a public union create given that its members are under the full protection of all of the relevant laws. If the public has decided that a teacher should make say 45K a year and the union demands 50K is not the Union acting contrary to the wishes of the public?
Who is this "public" you speak of? Are they individuals who have the qualifications to determine salary? Moreover, I and others have already listed numerous "good" things unions do for "the public", you just ignored them.the issue was what good does a public union create given that its members are under the full protection of all of the relevant laws. If the public has decided that a teacher should make say 45K a year and the union demands 50K is not the Union acting contrary to the wishes of the public?
the issue was what good does a public union create given that its members are under the full protection of all of the relevant laws. If the public has decided that a teacher should make say 45K a year and the union demands 50K is not the Union acting contrary to the wishes of the public?
Wages are not up for a vote. Unions negotiate. Leaders negotiate. No one is held under a gun and forced to agree to anything. And frankly, what does the public know abouot any of these details? They elected eladers to knwo this stuff.
in a private sector negotiation the bargaining is at least honest
in public sector-often those "bargaining" with the unions have been put into office by those unions
Who is arguing that union busting is OK when a Dem does it?
Paying a union teacher 50k is extortion. Paying a non-union military supplier 5k for a hammer is capitalism at its' best
wow one area proves everything I said wrong? LOL, in Cincinnati, the City Council has been mainly dem for most of the last 30 years and the teachers union that runs the Cincinnati Public Schools is a major donor to almost all the last half dozen mayors and most of those in the majority. city council ultimately bargains with the unions concerning the Cincinnati Public Schools
How long has NYC being cutting union jobs?
Gee, cutting union jobs doesn't show that politicians aren't beholden to unions?
I think the word "beholden" means something other than what you think it means
And I'm not surprised to see you thinking that I said anything about dems or repubs. The heavily partisan think everything is about party.
Or maybe he thinks the "due process" idea is also useful in other areas, like when it comes to an employee possibly being fired for spurious reasons so to prevent that maybe somebody should stick up for that employee just in case.
links to verifiable evidence are needed to back up your opinion.
sometimes other factors overcome union support. are you claiming you aren't "partisan"?
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