Moms Demand Action Has No Business Existing

[DebateChallenge]

Have you demeaned women your entire life

No, and I don't demean them now.

, or are you just braver now that our PE hates women?

No.

 

[DebateChallenge]

He's posted in the past asking if he's allowed/should be allowed to physically retaliate against people that:
--verbally insulted him
--sexually harassed him verbally ("kinda" what he described was weak sauce, pretty normal college innuendo, etc)

I don't know where you got that idea, you shouldn't be allowed to use physical force against somebody just because of stuff they say.

--touched or brushed against him in a sexually suggestive way

If somebody touches you in a way they're not supposed to you should be allowed to use physical force, it's called self defense.

 

[Lursa]

Because it doesn't apply for women who are against the 2A, for that particular issue, that's why.

Explain why it doesnt. Why does it apply for men but not women?

 

[Lursa]

I don't know where you got that idea, you shouldn't be allowed to use physical force against somebody just because of stuff they say.

If somebody touches you in a way they're not supposed to you should be allowed to use physical force, it's called self defense.

Uh huh. And yeah, you asked about the first 2 also.

 

[DebateChallenge]

The gun control issue is lost for the foreseeable future. It's time to sit around and hope that no one we know gets shot by some nutter who shouldn't have access to a gun, because that is the only remaining option.

There's a simple solution to that, put the nutters away. Anybody who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted to be out in society.

The NRA owns every branch of government now.

No it's the gun rights movement that controls every branch, the NRA isn't as pro 2A as some people might think (although they may be getting better now that Wayne is no longer with them.)

 

[DebateChallenge]

Ironically, the NRA used to support gun control that they now oppose.

Which means that the NRA is going in the right direction.

 

[DebateChallenge]

lol, wut

Women can do as they damn well please and you will like it.

Dude, you're not a woman, your profile says you're male, so why are you objecting?

 

[DebateChallenge]

2A is obsolete.

No it's not, it's still on the books today, if it was obsolete today it wouldn't be on the books today.

Needs to be repealed and replaced.

But it hasn't been.

We don't have any well regulated militias, and they are not necessary to the security of the free state.

Yes we do, they're the common citizen.

But we do have a gun problem because people are not responsible enough with guns. too many gun deaths.

Many people are responsible with guns and as such they should be allowed to own and carry guns.

Number one cause of death in children.

Only if you define "children" as those age 1-19, infants under the age of 1 are more likely to die by other means. And if you define "children" as those who are 17 and younger the leading cause of death is vehicle related injuries.

We shouldn't have to live in a country where crazy gun nuts shoot up a school full of innocent little children. That's just wrong.

In most schools that doesn't happen, in the vast majority of schools in fact that doesn't happen.

 

[Helix]

There's a simple solution to that, put the nutters away. Anybody who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted to be out in society.

No it's the gun rights movement that controls every branch, the NRA isn't as pro 2A as some people might think (although they may be getting better now that Wayne is no longer with them.)

ok

 

[DebateChallenge]

Someone doesn't like it when people criticize the ammosexuals and their bang stick fetish....

I will take that as a compliment.

 

[DebateChallenge]

Why? Articulate the reasoning behind your position.



We'll keep asking why until you explain. You started an entire thread on it...why cant you explain it?

Well because some people say that men shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate, since men can't get pregnant and all.

 

[beefheart]

I will take that as a compliment.

How sad for you.

 

[DebateChallenge]

Why ?

Do you consider that women are some second class of citizen ?
How about Indians and slaves
You adhere to the original meaning of the US Constitution don't you ?

Next you'll be saying that legal resident, non-citizens shouldn't have a say either
/s

Well some people say men shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate so there you have it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

This is all kinds of awesome.

Women will do and say whatever the hell they please.

Cry more.

 

[RF667799]

The gun control forum would still be around if it was just women who were against guns dropped out, obviously there's men who are against guns too.

Your idea that women who are opposed to gun control have no 1st Amendment rights, is without merit. There's no rationality behind it, unless it's some sort of satire meant to dig deeper into...something. But you never seem to proceed beyond the initial satire appetizer, and get into the meat of the matter. So I'm forced to conclude you're serious about it as a stand alone proposition.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The Second Amendment is just some words made up by some guys from long ago who did a pretty damn good job on the Constitution but totally ****ed up on the 2nd.

But I understand why they ****ed up.

 

[RF667799]

Well some people say men shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate so there you have it.

That's it? That's the point? Leave that shit in the abortion forum, if so. And tell them I said men have just as much right to participate in the abortion debate as do women.

 

[Lursa]

Well because some people say that men shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate, since men can't get pregnant and all.

I addressed this already. That doesnt mean it's right...so are you saying you realize you also are not right?

It also makes no sense. Women own, shoot, compete, and carry guns. I do all 4.

 

[NolanVoyd]

I don't.

Your op demonstrates that you do.

The parts about free speech, freedom of assembly. Equal protection, etc.

You either hate our constitution or don't understand it.

It's the people who are against the 2A who hate it, at least the part about the 2A.

No, that doesn't follow.

Perhaps you should take a civics course, learn about this Great country......or get the F out and find a country that suits you better.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Well because some people say that men shouldn't be involved in the abortion debate, since men can't get pregnant and all.

You make no sense.

Men can be involved in the abortion debate.

But you don't seem to understand.

Men can't be pregnant, both men and women own and use guns.

 

[The Mark]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

This is America, we have a 1st amendment that says they can.

Edit: Also, your statement made no sense.

You just made the same statement 2 times, without any further context or logic.

Edit 2: See, here is how I read this:
Statement 1:

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist.

My response: Ok, but why?

Statement 2a:

A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women...

My response: True, the name does imply that.

Statement 2b:

...and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter.

My response: No, you never said that before. Why do you say this, what is your reasoning?

Statement 3:

So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

My response: Again you declare the same thing, again without saying why it is true.

 

[Noodlegawd]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

I'm pro-gun rights, but this is about the stupidest thing I've read in years. I can only hope that you wrote it while drunk.

MDA absolutely should exist. They are free to exist, and free to be as idiotic as they are.

 

[Nickyjo]

Yer whatnow?

Do you say this because you think women are property?




The constitution says that somewhere, does it?

It would indeed be nice if Mr or Ms debate challenge would explain how the First Amendment doesn’t apply to the moms group.

 

[Nickyjo]

Which means that the NRA is going in the right direction.

Not realy. From what I understand: 1- they oppose restrictions their membership has supported; 2- they are more a lobby for the gun industry than for their members. So it goes.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Because it doesn't apply for women who are against the 2A, for that particular issue, that's why.

Your opinion is both unacceptable and unconstitutional. You have no argument but absurdity.