Moms Demand Action Has No Business Existing

[Nickyjo]

You can demand a police state and doesn't mean you're going to get one.

Glad to see you acknowledge the existence of the First Amendment. Now all we need is for DebateChallenge to get on board.

 

[Biznawich]

These social justice Marxist and Antifa-types showing up at BLM, anti-Israel BDS, and anti-ICE protests are completely intolerant of dissenting viewpoints. Anything or anyone they declare to be “fascist” has no right to be heard. Free speech is a western liberal idea, and these are not the types of people who support western liberalism. In fact, they’ve basically sworn to tear down the existing “racist” power structure. So, yeah, guns are not to defend the country or oneself as much as they are to silence dissent and foment revolution.

I agree. Most of the rest of the world's countries are...for lack of a more accurate descriptor jealous. They have never wrapped their heads around the fact that a country can exist without imperial hierarchy, torture chambers or a really oppressive "overwatch" on it's population and ultimately become one of the most powerful republics in modern times. I guess they just can't let go of old world thinking. There is no such thing as a living GOD in human form.

America proved much of the old world sovereignties to be pompously self serving as well as... "so what if our people die, we can always make more" types (like Red China, North Korea and a few of the middle eastern realms.

The only thing I can see that works against our open society is the fact that we are an open society. People born here understand it and exist by it. Those who were not raised with it and come here either legally or not so legally are showing themselves to either be thinking "hmmm, how can I turn this to my advantage" to either become wealthy by cheating the system (congress person Omar for example...not that we don't have our own home grown thieves like Pelosi) or "change it so it's more familiar like back home", the place they strived so fervently to get the hell out of.

Free speech is good, but if it insights violence, prejudice or insurrection it should be admonished.

 

[Biznawich]

If one of those facts isnt true refute it.

You first meat. Your kind keeps making noise about how MAGA or Repub's in general are effing-up the whole world let alone our great country....prove it. Everywhere you look thing are improving...by drams in some instances but not negative!

What has gotten Sooooo messed up for you that so much of your mental energy and physical confrontationating (<new word) on a daily basis, is being applied toward changing it back? I would really love to know because I so much want to be able to sleep through the night again without having nightmares about progressively radical libs that just don't seem to be adult enough to function in our still open and free society.

 

[Phys251]

You first meat. Your kind keeps making noise about how MAGA or Repub's in general are effing-up the whole world let alone our great country....prove it. Everywhere you look thing are improving...by drams in some instances but not negative!

What has gotten Sooooo messed up for you that so much of your mental energy and physical confrontationating (<new word) on a daily basis, is being applied toward changing it back? I would really love to know because I so much want to be able to sleep through the night again without having nightmares about progressively radical libs that just don't seem to be adult enough to function in our still open and free society.

Why do you hate free speech so much?

 

[NolanVoyd]

You first meat.

So you cant refute the facts in my post.

Got it.

And "meat"?

Is that some sort of name calling?

 

[Biznawich]

So you cant refute the facts in my post.

Got it.

And "meat"?

Is that some sort of name calling?

Meat leaves the field wide open to simply fill in the blank in this "non-gender specific world" so no one (in particular) is offended.

...and these facts you so incessantly pursue are self evident. You don't hear anyone but progressives bitching and whining about how things are slowly getting better. One might think that the left doesn't want things improving. Why would that be do you think?

Do you want a functioning male phallic wandering at will through girls/women's dressing areas? Men in female sports where physical strength makes the difference? Or there are so many undocumented visitors to our country that health care can not be functionally affective for anyone?

What is the difficulty here, why are you so obsessed with Trump and the non-idiocy he/they represent that you aren't willing (or able) to let the country heal itself?

 

[NolanVoyd]

Meat leaves the field wide open to simply fill in the blank in this "non-gender specific world" so no one (in particular) is offended.

Huh?

 

[Ahlevah]

I agree. Most of the rest of the world's countries are...for lack of a more accurate descriptor jealous. They have never wrapped their heads around the fact that a country can exist without imperial hierarchy, torture chambers or a really oppressive "overwatch" on it's population and ultimately become one of the most powerful republics in modern times. I guess they just can't let go of old world thinking. There is no such thing as a living GOD in human form.

America proved much of the old world sovereignties to be pompously self serving as well as... "so what if our people die, we can always make more" types (like Red China, North Korea and a few of the middle eastern realms.

The only thing I can see that works against our open society is the fact that we are an open society. People born here understand it and exist by it. Those who were not raised with it and come here either legally or not so legally are showing themselves to either be thinking "hmmm, how can I turn this to my advantage" to either become wealthy by cheating the system (congress person Omar for example...not that we don't have our own home grown thieves like Pelosi) or "change it so it's more familiar like back home", the place they strived so fervently to get the hell out of.

Free speech is good, but if it insights violence, prejudice or insurrection it should be admonished.

I notice we spend a lot of time teaching and discussing Nazis and fascism with our kids, but not nearly as much about the evils of socialism and communism. They learn about the Final Solution and the 6 million murdered Jews, but little if anything about Mao’s Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, Stalin’s pogroms and genocides, or Cambodia’s Killing Fields.

 

[CLAX1911]

I notice we spend a lot of time teaching and discussing Nazis and fascism with our kids, but not nearly as much about the evils of socialism and communism. They learn about the Final Solution and the 6 million murdered Jews, but little if anything about Mao’s Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, Stalin’s pogroms and genocides, or Cambodia’s Killing Fields.

Yeah you've got mao you've got Joseph Stalin you got Mussolini all of them out did Adolf Hitler. Mussolini was like five Hitlers. Mao was like 30 Hitlers.

They don't like to talk about this because of leftism's proximity to Communism.

 

[Nickyjo]

Yeah you've got mao you've got Joseph Stalin you got Mussolini all of them out did Adolf Hitler. Mussolini was like five Hitlers. Mao was like 30 Hitlers.

They don't like to talk about this because of leftism's proximity to Communism.

Mussolini was like five Hitler’s? He was a fascist and an ally of Adolf.

And you must have missed Joe McCarthy, loyalty oaths (I had to take one as late as 1968 to get a job with United Airlines), the Hollywood Ten and the blacklists, the HUAC, MLK and Cesar Chavez being called communists, etc. And of course there was the killing of hundreds of thousands in Vietnam in a useless war. As I posted elsewhere, such was the hysteria that the Cincinnati Reds changed their name to the Redlegs in the 1950s. Richard Nixon referred to his Senate campaign opponent Helen Douglas as “the Pink Lady.” As late as a few years ago Karl Rove said something like he divided the US into liberals… and Americans.

 

[CLAX1911]

Mussolini was like five Hitler’s? He was a fascist and an ally of Adolf.

So one is a big powerful centralized government and the other is a big powerful centralized government and you want a big powerful centralized government. It makes no difference to me if the trappings are labeled right and left it's upper and lower that are the issues

And you must have missed Joe McCarthy, loyalty oaths (I had to take one as late as 1968 to get a job with United Airlines), the Hollywood Ten and the blacklists, the HUAC, MLK and Cesar Chavez being called communists, etc.

Learning what McCarthy did in not exactly against him. Anti American communist Hollywood scum is not how to appeal to me. I don't sympathize with perverts and pedos

And of course there was the killing of hundreds of thousands in Vietnam in a useless war. As I posted elsewhere, such was the hysteria that the Cincinnati Reds changed their name to the Redlegs in the 1950s. Richard Nixon referred to his Senate campaign opponent Helen Douglas as “the Pink Lady.” As late as a few years ago Karl Rove said something like he divided the US into liberals… and Americans.

I resent calling leftist authoritarians liberals there about as far from that ad you can get.

Remember you support reducing rights and think infringement is perfectly fine in fact you want more. So if you're working me about big centralized government you need to evaluate your own positions.

 

[Nickyjo]

So one is a big powerful centralized government and the other is a big powerful centralized government and you want a big powerful centralized government. It makes no difference to me if the trappings are labeled right and left it's upper and lower that are the issues

Learning what McCarthy did in not exactly against him. Anti American communist Hollywood scum is not how to appeal to me. I don't sympathize with perverts and pedos

I resent calling leftist authoritarians liberals there about as far from that ad you can get.

Remember you support reducing rights and think infringement is perfectly fine in fact you want more. So if you're working me about big centralized government you need to evaluate your own positions.

I don’t support reducing rights. I was involved in human rights work for about 30 years: with the farmworkers union 3 years, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission about seven, and the last 20 years working with Amnesty International.

 

[CLAX1911]

I don’t support reducing rights.

So we shouldn't infringe on gun ownership rights anymore and possibly walk back some of the infringements right?

I was involved in human rights work for about 30 years: with the farmworkers union 3 years, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission about seven, and the last 20 years working with Amnesty International.

They should all be allowed to have machine guns right?

 

[Ahlevah]

Yeah you've got mao you've got Joseph Stalin you got Mussolini all of them out did Adolf Hitler. Mussolini was like five Hitlers. Mao was like 30 Hitlers.

They don't like to talk about this because of leftism's proximity to Communism.

The last one is another Maoist—Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. Many Americans have probably never heard of them. But they were murdering socialist bastards, too—millions of dead Cambodians.

 

[Nickyjo]

So we shouldn't infringe on gun ownership rights anymore and possibly walk back some of the infringements right?


They should all be allowed to have machine guns right?

We infringe gun rights all the time. The debate is over how much, not whether. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

 

[CLAX1911]

We infringe gun rights all the time.

So you support fewer rights and just lied about it

The debate is over how much, not whether.

If you support rights it should never be about how much.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Having rights is suicide?

 

[CLAX1911]

The last one is another Maoist—Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. Many Americans have probably never heard of them. But they were murdering socialist bastards, too—millions of dead Cambodians.

I'm familiar with pol pot not as much with Khmer Rouge

 

[Nickyjo]

So you support fewer rights and just lied about it

If you support rights it should never be about how much.

Having rights is suicide?

So you object to the TSA, Congress, and various other government offices screening for weapons?

And yes, interpreting the Second Amendment to mean no restrictions at all on weapons would be suicidal.

 

[CLAX1911]

So you object to the TSA,

Absolutely the TSA should have never existed. It's just an excuse for pedos to grope children.

Congress, and various other government offices screening for weapons?

They should never be allowed to screen for weapons. It's not their business

And yes, interpreting the Second Amendment to mean no restrictions at all on weapons would be suicidal.

Yes you're strawman is stupid. Good thing it isn't my argument.