Moms Demand Action Has No Business Existing

[Nickyjo]

?? they are NOT against the second amend.

Stop spreading misinfo.........

And even if they were…

 

[Argent]

Men with guns are afraid of women with voices?

 

[verrip1]

I just knew identity politics wouldn't go away quietly.

Perhaps this discussion could be merged with the dead bear thread so that the issue of whether the bear was a mom could be properly dealt with.

 

[DebateChallenge]

By what wording of the 1st Amendment is there a qualifier where the government can tell certain groups that they cannot exist?

There isn't, but that's not the point.

 

[JMB1911A1]

So do you concur with the OP that mothers who are anti-gun should be stripped of their 1st Amendment rights?

No. I think their stupidity should be on full display for the world to see. They promote themselves as “gun safety” organization but don’t teach any gun safety at all. All they do is screech for gun control.

For example, they supposedly distribute gun locks. But what they did was take gun locks provided by the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) and stapled their own cards on them. Millions from Bloomberg but they can’t actually spend money on true gun safety measures. They steal the locks and pass them off as their own. Note where it says Project Childsafe on the lock. That is the NSSF program.

Responsible Gun Storage

Moms Demand Action and Everytown for Gun Safety Support Fund: It's our responsibility as adults to Be SMART about responsible gun storage.

momsdemandaction.org

Bloomberg caught taking credit for NSSF work

The gun control group Bloomberg and the NSSF are about as diametrically opposed as two organizations

bearingarms.com

Everytown has a lot of nerve after NSSF gun lock stunt

There are a lot of gun control groups out there, and Everytown for Gun Safety in America may be one

bearingarms.com

 

[DebateChallenge]

So do you concur with the OP that mothers who are anti-gun

Not just mothers but all women.

should be stripped of their 1st Amendment rights?

Not stripped of their 1st Amendment rights, except they shouldn't have a voice in the gun debate if they're against guns, that's all.

 

[DebateChallenge]

You are joking, right?

No.

 

[JMB1911A1]

?? they are NOT against the second amend.

Stop spreading misinfo.........

Bullshit. They want the 2A destroyed. They work at the beck and call of Lord Michael Bloomberg

 

[DebateChallenge]

Why?

Well some people say men who are against abortion shouldn't have a voice on that issue.

 

[phoenix2020]

Not just mothers but all women.

Not stripped of their 1st Amendment rights, except they shouldn't have a voice in the gun debate if they're against guns, that's all.

Then it follows that if you’re against people who are against guns, then you shouldn’t have a voice in the mothers against guns debate. Therefore please consider your voice removed from circulation so far as this topic is concerned.

 

[OrphanSlug]

There isn't, but that's not the point.

Oh, but it is. Your opening "argument" was that a group should not exist because of an invalid assumption you have made of them.

It is exceptionally unlikely that Moms Demand Action will shut down all operations over little ole you and your argument, so I asked how you would get around the 1st Amendment and you doubled down saying that does not apply to this group you oppose.

So I am going to ask, again, how does the 1st Amendment not apply to Moms Demand Action? Because that is the only way to shut them down.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

Arguments based on a ridiculous premise end up failing badly. Good job if that was the intention.

 

[NolanVoyd]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

If yiu hate our constitutional why don't you move to a country that suits you better?

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Too bad. They exist.

They exist, have the right to vote, free speech protections, and the right of assembly like other citizens do. It's why the OP's premise is rubbish.

 

[Nickyjo]

Not just mothers but all women.

Not stripped of their 1st Amendment rights, except they shouldn't have a voice in the gun debate if they're against guns, that's all.

So people who oppose guns should not have a voice in the debate, but presumably people who support guns should. Should be easy to declare a winner in that contest.

“Debate noun, a formal discussion on a particular topic in which opposing arguments are put forward.” Oxford

Or if you prefer,

“Debate - what you need to catch de fish”
MAD Magazine, cerca 1960s

 

[RF667799]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

Please consider being an advocate for the Gun Control Industry. They have no current shortage of idiotic ideas, but can probably always use someone to sweep up.

 

[RF667799]

I will say it's nice to see all the sudden converts to the gun rights cause though.

So maybe it worked?

 

[Nickyjo]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

True. And “Sandy Hook Promise” should have nothing to say either. They survived. What’s their beef?

 

[RF667799]

True. And “Sandy Hook Promise” should have nothing to say either. They survived. What’s their beef?

The Gun Control Industry has every right to exist and participate as an enterprise in the market.

 

[Nickyjo]

The Gun Control Industry has every right to exist and participate as an enterprise in the market.

Of course they do. And they can even have the NRA as their advocates. My point was simply to contest the absurd assertion that the moms group should not exist.

 

[RF667799]

Of course they do. And they can even have the NRA as their advocates. My point was simply to contest the absurd assertion that the moms group should not exist.

We agree that is absurd.

 

[Luce]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

lol, wut

Women can do as they damn well please and you will like it.

 

[Luce]

We agree that is absurd.

Yes.

Gun-grabbers are citizens, too. They can get together and waste their time like anyone else can.

 

[RF667799]

Yes.

Gun-grabbers are citizens, too. They can get together and waste their time like anyone else can.

Right. Where would the Gun Control forum be without them?

 

[mrjurrs]

The organization Moms Demand Action which is an anti 2A anti gun rights organization should not exist. A mom is a female parent so with a name such as Moms Demand Action it implies that it is an organization run by women and as I said before, women have no business being against gun rights and being anti 2A and those that are should have no voice in that particular matter. So Moms Demand Action has no business even being in existence.

Have you demeaned women your entire life, or are you just braver now that our PE hates women?