Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her Kid

[ReformCollege]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

This woman went to rehab is no longer using drugs, regained custody of her children, going to college, she and her kids are in poverty, and yet they cant get food stamps because she was once a "drug addict".

And then what happens when drug addicts can receive the treatment they need? I would much rather have drug addicts get food stamps they need to survive rather than starving or having to resort to petty crimes to get the food they need to survive.

But i agree if someone is a hardcore drug addict and not paying attention to their kids then they should loose custody.

She should have lost her kids the first time, then this wouldn't have been an issue. If shes attempting to turn her life around, good for her. But considering the odds, her kids will probably have a better outcome living with another family member, and she will probably have a better chance at turning her life around without kids to worry about.

Regardless, society isn't to blame considering there are plenty others in her situation who handled it much better.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

If your definition of 'civilized' is to have the state. dictate terms of my existence, then no, I would rather remain uncivilized.

By that logic you would be better off in a place where the state doesn't dictate the terms of your existence. That logically means no control on your behavior at all.

You don't belong in a civilization. Civilization inherently means limits on people's behavior, including limits on greed.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Taking children away from their crackhead moms shows zero concern? Removing children from their meth head moms shows zero concern? Are you kidding me? I'm thinking you don't know what a loving mom is.

She's not on crack anymore.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Yeah, they are. They might only have to live in their parents' house until they're eighteen, but they'll be living with their parents' lessons for the rest of their lives.

You are right, however, that it's better to get those children out of that home than it is to support them in that home.

That depends on how hot the fire they're going to be in is after you get them out of the frying pan.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Taking children away from their crackhead moms shows zero concern? Removing children from their meth head moms shows zero concern? Are you kidding me? I'm thinking you don't know what a loving mom is.

I think that you are under the false assumption that people who do drugs don't love their children.

You do not live in reality land.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

a store near my house was pretty strict about accepting food stamps, but the moops would just get around it by taking orders out front.

Short of outright fraud, such abuse is really difficult to control for

To get rid of abuse you have to get rid of people.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Taking away children's loving mothers and putting their lives into total upheaval shows absolutely zero concern for the children.

That type of upheaval in a child's life can affect them in a negative way for the rest of their lives.

While state placement is never ideal, some home situations are down right dangerous.

 

[Fletch]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

By that logic you would be better off in a place where the state doesn't dictate the terms of your existence. That logically means no control on your behavior at all.

You don't belong in a civilization. Civilization inherently means limits on people's behavior, including limits on greed.

Greed has nothing to do with it. It is a question of liberty, of the individual vs. the state. You want an all powerful state, I want the power of self determination in the hands of the individual. Hate to be the one to break this to you but socialists rule by physical force, they are, by definition, uncivilized.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

I think that you are under the false assumption that people who do drugs don't love their children.

You do not live in reality land.

well, I have seen families where I think it would be clearly legitimate to question if the parents actually cared for their kids. But that is besides the point, what we are discussing is the possible consequences of the parents actions and if they represent a greater risk than some form of state intervention.

 

[Mathematician]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

I think that you are under the false assumption that people who do drugs don't love their children.

You do not live in reality land.

If you love your kids more than drugs then your actions will reflect so. Otherwise, you don't deserve to be a parent.

 

[Fenton]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

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[FONT=Arial, Georgia, sans-serif]This is ****ty and inhumane. We need to reform our food stamps programs and these county's need to end this practice. I am in favor of anyone who is at the level to need food stamps should receive them no matter if they are addicted to drugs or whatever it may be they need them, people do not deserve to be in these type of situations. [/FONT]

What a load of complete BS. Unbelievable....

You mean she has to suffer the consequence of her actions ?? OMFG !!!

Just more evidence brought forth from the twisted mind of a liberal socialist that exposes the fallacy of their thought process.

Demagoguery is how you sway idiots and progressives ( a distinction with out a difference ), for the rest of us we understand whats led to the devolution of our society and want it to stop.

Instantaneous emotional knee jerk might be the best you can do but those of us with any fundamental vestige of a moral core and who possess the understanding that enabling a drug addict prostitute only leads to more misery, death and poverty.

It's hard to believe there are people walking around with your thought process.

Just so you know, the way you think and your solutions perpetuate poverty, misery and death. They don't help people escape the drug addicted crime riddled neighborhoods. and the don't help people move out of those neighborhoods and make life better for their children.

Your train of thought if left unchecked produces places like Cabrini Green, Queensbridge in New Orleans , Robert Taylor Projects ( where 95% of it's residents are unemployed and on TOTAL Govt assistance) , Magnolia Projects ( prior to Katrina the most dangerous and violence riddled Housing Projects in the US ).

Imagine a world where people have to be responsible for their actions, not one where you award them for their criminal behavior by handing them a check paid for by hard working Americans.

 

[UtahBill]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

I would give her food, cooked and ready to eat, at a shelter kitchen. But not food stamps....
She won't need food stamps for her kids, since she won't have them. Kids are usually better off living away from bad parents.

 

[iguanaman]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

People who are addicted to drugs should lose their children. These addicts should receive nothing. That's the tough love we need to solve this problem; not enabling them to keep-on-keepin'-on.

Addiction is a disease, so I guess you think we should take children away from a parent who gets cancer too? You are confusing being heartless with "tough love".

 

[Fletch]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Addiction is a disease, so I guess you think we should take children away from a parent who gets cancer too? You are confusing being heartless with "tough love".

That is a ridiculous analogy. Drugs and alcohol effect your brain; they effect your judgement, your ability to reason. The irrational and dangerous behaviors that they often induce can be of great harm to everyone that person comes into contact with, particularly children. Cancer has no such effects.

 

[Fenton]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Addiction is a disease, so I guess you think
we should take children away from a parent who gets cancer too? You are confusing being heartless with "tough love".

Wow.....

Exibit #1...Liberal think

They compare "addiction" to a real diseaes.
Yup, these are the people some of you guys put in power.

Sorry skippy but addiction is no more a disease than chewing your fingernails.

Its not a disease when the cure is self control.

 

[Neomalthusian]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Wow.....

Exibit #1...Liberal think

They compare "addiction" to a real diseaes.
Yup, these are the people some of you guys put in power.

Sorry skippy but addiction is no more a disease than chewing your fingernails.

Its not a disease when the cure is self control.

Pick your battles. Whether we agree that "addiction is a disease" or not, its impact on one's children is undeniable, and iguanaman's comparison was a rookie mistake.

 

[MaggieD]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Addiction is a disease, so I guess you think we should take children away from a parent who gets cancer too? You are confusing being heartless with "tough love".

Here are your loving caregivers:

 

[Neomalthusian]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Here are your loving caregivers:

And that's just meth. Some of the most horrendous stories of child abuse and neglect come from homes where parents are addicted to opioids and/or alcohol, the former of which is prescribed by doctors, and the latter of which is legal. And those monsters can look relatively normal, rather than like zombies.

I'm not saying alcohol is the problem, and I won't even go so far as to say prescription opiates are the problem. I'm saying addicts are the problem, insofar as they have children.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Well at least the lady in the OP didn't turn to politics and become a real whore.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Addiction is a disease, so I guess you think we should take children away from a parent who gets cancer too? You are confusing being heartless with "tough love".

drawing a comparison between cancer and drug addiction? Come on, man

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

That depends on how hot the fire they're going to be in is after you get them out of the frying pan.

Rolling the dice on the foster care system versus a known drug addict and a sex offender? Worth the risk.

They compare "addiction" to a real diseaes. ... Its not a disease when the cure is self control.

Addiction is a real disease and I'd like to see you try to kick a real drug addiction before you make any more ignorant comments.

But that doesn't change that unlike other diseases, addiction renders the afflicted person incapable of providing a safe home for children. Rather like a number of other mental illnesses-- and, like any other condition that renders someone incapable of raising kids, it absolutely can and should result in those children being removed from the home. If your cancer (or your cancer treatment) makes you incapable of raising your children, it doesn't matter how fair it is to you-- your children will be removed from your home for their own good.

 

[Mason66]

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Taking away children's loving mothers and putting their lives into total upheaval shows absolutely zero concern for the children.

That type of upheaval in a child's life can affect them in a negative way for the rest of their lives.

You are assuming the loving part.

 

[Mason66]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Addiction is a disease, so I guess you think we should take children away from a parent who gets cancer too? You are confusing being heartless with "tough love".

Addiction is a disease chosen by that person.

Don't compare it to cancer which is not chosen but just happens.

 

[Mason66]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

Rolling the dice on the foster care system versus a known drug addict and a sex offender? Worth the risk.




Addiction is a real disease and I'd like to see you try to kick a real drug addiction before you make any more ignorant comments.

But that doesn't change that unlike other diseases, addiction renders the afflicted person incapable of providing a safe home for children. Rather like a number of other mental illnesses-- and, like any other condition that renders someone incapable of raising kids, it absolutely can and should result in those children being removed from the home. If your cancer (or your cancer treatment) makes you incapable of raising your children, it doesn't matter how fair it is to you-- your children will be removed from your home for their own good.

The difference is that people choose to get addiced.

They chose to smoke whatever or inject whatever.

I don't really care if it is considered a disease, you cannot compare something that was chosen to something that just happens.

 

[clownboy]

Re: Mom Can't Get Food Stamps After Drug Offense, Resorts to Prostitution to Feed her

She's not on crack anymore.

No, but she's back to hooking and has a boyfriend convicted of sex crimes. Would you feel comfortable having YOUR children hang around in such an environment? If no, then your objection to her losing the kids again melts away. If yes...it would be against board rules to reveal what I'm thinking.