The story is what it is, Higgins. If you've been unaware of it, that's on you; UK sources have published articles all along about her disappearance. The fact, however inconvenient, is that Tibbetts was murdered by an illegal immigrant. That IS part of the story, and it's a significant part: If Rivera hadn't been here illegally, Tibbetts wouldn't be dead.
There are thousands of illegal immigrants in the US right now not killing people. For me the murderer being illegal is as irrelevant as that father who murder his wife and kids being a citizen.
Yes you can.Except that you can't stop a citizen from being here to kill.
Yes you can.
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He has worked on the farm for 4 years.
They said he was everified but he could have easily used a fake or Stolen SSN.
I doubt he was everified.
police are going to have to look to see if there are any other unsolved murders that are similar.
it could be that they could a serial killer hiding on a farm.
it seems that he tried to make a pass at her and she told him to take a hike and he didn't like it.
it will be interesting to see if other girls that were reported missing fit the same MO.
they will need to trace his steps back etc ...
False equivocation.
If the illegal was not in this country, she wouldn't be dead.
Common excuse and strawman. Wish you could personally ask the family.
Sounds like a Democratic Party campaign slogan to me. You should put signs in her family's yard offering this as condolences.
The fed tracks murders by race, age, sex, income and a plethora of other dermographics. But not by illegal aliens, what is wrong with that pic?
ifs and buts.........you can apply that to every situation. IF...I hadn't gotten in the car, I wouldn't have been in that accident.....Sad that the Trumpettes are so desperate they will exploit this girls death to further their agenda.
ifs and buts.........you can apply that to every situation. IF...I hadn't gotten in the car, I wouldn't have been in that accident.....Sad that the Trumpettes are so desperate they will exploit this girls death to further their agenda.
Yet, there has been research on this issue. This is a pretty good piece that discusses the various research on the subject.
Immigration and Crime - Oxford Research Encyclopedia of Criminology
Its summary (opening paragraph)...
".....In the context of crime, victimization, and immigration in the United States, research shows that people are afraid of immigrants because they think immigrants are a threat to their safety and engage in many violent and property crimes. However, quantitative research has consistently shown that being foreign born is negatively associated with crime overall and is not significantly associated with committing either violent or property crime. If an undocumented immigrant is arrested for a criminal offense, it tends to be for a misdemeanor. Researchers suggest that undocumented immigrants may be less likely to engage in serious criminal offending behavior because they seek to earn money and not to draw attention to themselves....."
The AP referred to him simply as "immigrant".
You're the one who is exploiting her death with an agenda in mind.
Your agenda is to mitigate/marginalize how she was killed and by whom.
The original post clearly does not mention politics.
You're the poster who is making it about a political narrative.
Oh puh-lease....you guys couldn't wait to exploit her death as soon as you found that it fit your political agenda. Its sick seeing how the right-wing is using this tragedy to further their beliefs.
Looks to me like the only exploiting is being done by you.
Oh puh-lease....you guys couldn't wait to exploit her death as soon as you found that it fit your political agenda. Its sick seeing how the right-wing is using this tragedy to further their beliefs.
then you aren't looking very hard....or you are conveniently oblivious.
To which the proper response is: So what? Mollie Tibbets was murdered by an illegal immigrant.
Her family asked people to stop politicizing her death. Why is it so hard to respect their wishes?
How did I exploit her death?
Check yourself and stop with the false accusations.
To which my response is "so what", she was murdered. The fact that the murder was done by an illegal immigrant is as germane as the fact that his name was Joe.
As per my post #41, "... People are trying to turn this one into something that it is not, some type of indictment on illegal immigration. Its not. Its a tragedy that speaks the the depravity of humanity; not to a particular group of people...."
As per my post #84, there is no evidence that illegal immigrants commit more crimes than US citizens. In fact, the evidence says the opposite: they actually commit less crimes.
The subject here is what a tragedy committed by a despicable individual. Laying his actions off on a group of people is a different type of despicable act by those with a shallow political agenda.
No, you're the only one attacking. And you're avoiding the simple fact: Had immigration law been effectively enforced, Mollie Tibbets would be alive.
His GOP boss didnt follow the law
Will trump use this terrible crime to cover his crimes?
To which my response is "so what", she was murdered. The fact that the murder was done by an illegal immigrant is as germane as the fact that his name was Cristhian.
As per my post #41, "... People are trying to turn this one into something that it is not, some type of indictment on illegal immigration. Its not. Its a tragedy that speaks the the depravity of humanity; not to a particular group of people...."
As per my post #84, there is no evidence that illegal immigrants commit more crimes than US citizens. In fact, the evidence says the opposite: they actually commit less crimes.
The subject here is what a tragedy committed by a despicable individual. Laying his actions off on a group of people is a different type of despicable act by those with a shallow political agenda.
This is no more a rational argument against illegal immigration than it is a rational argument against naming your kid Cristhian.
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