And we have a new low for stupidity and classlessness in one post.
Russiaville faced enormous pressure from many parents and faculty to bar White from the campus after his diagnosis became widely known to protect the other children. 117 parents (from a school of 360 total students) and 50 teachers signed a petition encouraging school leaders to ban White from school. Due to the widespread fear and ignorance of AIDS, the principal and later the school board assented so that the rest of the students would not get sick.
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Opposing the Kennedy-Hatch AIDS bill in 1988, Helms stated, "There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy".[
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Well done!
He claimed females bodies can shut down procreation specifically in response to a "legitimate rape" and that is one hundred percent false.
I don't care if he said "voluntarily" or not. If there's sperm and an egg, pregnancy is a possibility. Does this guy need to go back to "abstinence only" sex ed? Apparently he didn't even absorb that information.[/QUOTE
The argument he should have used is that abortion isn't necessary if one is raped since there's a morning-after pill.
The argument he should have used is that abortion isn't necessary if one is raped since there's a morning-after pill.
Well... he's scientifically correct. It is indeed true that the female body is drastically less likely to conceive from a rape, or while any other severe stressors are going on.
But how the hell does that answer the question? The question was not "how common is pregnancy resulting from rape?" The question was "would you deny a woman who's been rape access to abortion?"
I suppose he did, in a round-about way, which was "yes." We should force women to get raped all over again by carrying an unwanted fetus to term so they can reminded of their rape for the rest of their lives. Wonderful.
What a sick individual.
Stress might affect ovulation, but where is the evidence that it affect conception? Conception can only take place after ovulation has occurred, so if a women happens to be raped while she's going through ovulation, and the sperm get to the egg, fertilization will occur, and it's still very much a "legitimate rape".
Anyone who has tried to get pregnant can tell you that it can take months sometimes. A lot of sex can occur over the course of months. A lot. But only one of those times will result in pregnancy. So pregnancy from consensual sex is "rare"--w/e percentage 1 is of the total umber of times the couple has sex over the course of months while trying to have a baby.
Pregnancy from consensual sex is "rare".
So what're the stats?
How much more "rare" is it to conceive via consensual sex, or non-"legitimate rape", vs "legitimate rape"?
Is it more "rare"?
Are there any stats?
Or are there only FOAF stories?
For a healthy couple, your chances of getting pregnant in any one month is 25-30%, but it's also about timing. While sperm can stay in a women for up to 7 days, the egg can only survive for up to 36 hours after being released. If a women happens to be raped just when her body is ready to released the egg (which is induced by FSH) or it has been released, then the chances of her egg being fertilized by the sperm is the same whether it was consensual or not.
The argument he should have used is that abortion isn't necessary if one is raped since there's a morning-after pill.
Is he in favor of that though? I'd be shocked if he was.
The idiots in the suburbs around St. Louis!From the link in the OP:
So, since according to him, pregnancy from a rape is rare, a woman should not be allowed to get an abortion in those rare cases.
Meaning, he wants the government to force a woman to carry a zygote to term regardless of the circumstances.
and he's a six term Congressman. Who keeps electing these guys?
Missouri Republican claims ‘legitimate rape’ rarely results in pregnancy – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
I love the south. I love the Tea Party even more. Never ending humor.
Missouri isn't exactly "The South". Even our secession during the Civil War is questionable, if you believe it at all. There's still no excuse for this GOP moron or his actions. Sadly, the St. Louis suburbs are full of these kind of people. The funny thing about that is St. Louis was always Union territory. LOL!Missouri Republican claims ‘legitimate rape’ rarely results in pregnancy – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
I love the south. I love the Tea Party even more. Never ending humor.
So eveyone in the south and all Tea Party members are .....what? Are you sure it's not 99.9999 percent?
The idiots in the suburbs around St. Louis!
Nothing will probably top the "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare" though.
Don't read into what I wrote. I try and choose my words with care. The South and the Tea Party provide people who have an ability to say the most silly, hilarious things. Nothing will probably top the "Keep the government's hands off my Medicare" though.
Right here.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...arely-results-pregnancy-3.html#post1060814702
Extreme stress reduces the chances of not only conception, but also viable pregnancy. Early miscarriage is very common even under the best of circumstances. It is not as though birth is inevitable whenever conception occurs. It is actually more likely it will be expelled. And even more so when under extreme stress.
Some women who are raped will still become pregnant and maintain the pregnancy. But it is less likely. If they do, it does not make their rape any less "legitimate." But it is scientifically true that it is less likely.
BBC - Future - Health - Sex: What are the chances?Perhaps the closest we have to a robust figure is from a European study that recruited 782 young couples who did not use artificial contraception and who carefully recorded the day of every act (and there were a lot of them) until there had been 487 pregnancies. The simplest way to estimate the chance of pregnancy was to consider only cycles in which there had been only one act of intercourse. Peak times for pregnancies seemed to occur two days before ovulation – the chances of getting pregnant during this time was around 25%, confirming previous estimates. But the chances drop fairly steeply either side of the peak, to a 5% average over the rest of the cycle.
The bottom line is that a single act of intercourse between a young couple has on average a one in 20 chance of pregnancy – this assumes the opportunity presented itself on a random day, as these things tend do when you are young.Perhaps the closest we have to a robust figure is from a European study that recruited 782 young couples who did not use artificial contraception and who carefully recorded the day of every act (and there were a lot of them) until there had been 487 pregnancies. The simplest way to estimate the chance of pregnancy was to consider only cycles in which there had been only one act of intercourse. Peak times for pregnancies seemed to occur two days before ovulation – the chances of getting pregnant during this time was around 25%, confirming previous estimates. But the chances drop fairly steeply either side of the peak, to a 5% average over the rest of the cycle.
Pregnancies Resulting from Rape
In 2004-2005, 64,080 women were raped.8 According to medical reports, the incidence of pregnancy for one-time unprotected sexual intercourse is 5%. By applying the pregnancy rate to 64,080 women, RAINN estimates that there were 3,204 pregnancies as a result of rape during that period.
the guy is a moron
yes, that's almost as stupid as saying "they want to put ya'll back in chains"
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So you don't know the difference between rhetoric and ignorance. Interesting.
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