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[marke]

Reagan turned this country from a creditor nation into a debtor nation....and the wealth gap has widened exponentially ever since.

And democrats will turn America into a communist nation similar to Venezuela if given power because they still stupidly believe they can spend as many trillions of dollars they like and will never endanger the US Treasury.

Vote to restore fiscal restraints on government spending. Vote republican in 2020.

 

[Moot]

And democrats will turn America into a communist nation similar to Venezuela if given power because they still stupidly believe they can spend as many trillions of dollars they like and will never endanger the US Treasury.

Vote to restore fiscal restraints on government spending. Vote republican in 2020.

Never happen. Our economy is more diverse and doesn't depend solely on oil like Venezuala does.

Trump has already endangered the treasury with his tax cuts for the wealthy and welfare for corporations that didn't need it.

Vote Republican if you like being lied to and out of control national debt.

 

[Vern]

You don't accept answering the question. It's rather simple to say. You could admit that you are a hypocrite in criticizing Republicans over the debt when you would like to add to the debt as well. You could even clarify that you would just like to add to the debt in different ways than Republicans. But, the bottom line remains. You would like to add to the debt.

MR, how many times do I have to tell you that I'm not answering your dishonest deflecting "multiple choice" question. You keep asking because you can not discuss the facts. And some of those facts prove you're dishonest. Try to focus. You obsessed about debt and your conservative masters played you and every conservative for fools and used it for their political gain. Democrats are better with debt that republicans. Please explain the logic how deficits go down under democrats and explode under republicans "proves" republicans are better at deficits. thanks in advance.

I know, lets review how your narrative "evolves" over time:
Republicans want to lower the deficit
Okay, both sides are bad
Okay, both sides are bad but republicans are still better

Please, lets discuss the facts.

 

[code1211]

Typical.

 

[Kushinator]

Typical.

You'd rather bicker.

My statement still stands :

You can't show this to be true. It's just an empty claim that's based around the pre-pandemic employment rate.



Trump made no promises regarding deficit growth benefiting ALL AMERICANS!. He did claim rGDP would growth 3%, 4%, 5%, and maybe even 6%. He did claim that the deficit would create so much economic activity, that it would recapture the amount of revenue lost through tax cuts. He did claim he would balance the budget and eliminate the debt. Not to mention trade deals with China, Mexico-financed southern border walls, etc...

The guy made a lot of promises to his largely uneducated base... and they took him at his word!

 

[marke]

Never happen. Our economy is more diverse and doesn't depend solely on oil like Venezuala does.

Trump has already endangered the treasury with his tax cuts for the wealthy and welfare for corporations that didn't need it.

Vote Republican if you like being lied to and out of control national debt.

The delusion is deep. Nevertheless, unsustainable indebtedness will bring down the US economy just as surely as it will do any other nation on the planet. That is a fiscal law which cannot be broken any more than the law of gravity can be broken.

Help rescue America from those who think the US can spend as much money as it likes without negative consequences. Vote republican in 2020.

 

[Far right dem]

The delusion is deep. Nevertheless, unsustainable indebtedness will bring down the US economy just as surely as it will do any other nation on the planet. That is a fiscal law which cannot be broken any more than the law of gravity can be broken.

Help rescue America from those who think the US can spend as much money as it likes without negative consequences. Vote republican in 2020.

So you plan is to "rescue America from those who think the US can spend as much money as it likes without negative consequences" is to vote for the party that thinks the US can spend as much money as it likes.

 

[Moot]

The delusion is deep. Nevertheless, unsustainable indebtedness will bring down the US economy just as surely as it will do any other nation on the planet. That is a fiscal law which cannot be broken any more than the law of gravity can be broken.

Help rescue America from those who think the US can spend as much money as it likes without negative consequences. Vote republican in 2020.

It didn't bring down Japan.

The economy always does better under democratic leadership and that's a fact.

Here's another fact, all three presidents that were businessmen, Hoover, GWBush and Trump...were complete failures....and they were all republicans.

 

[cpwill]

Where are all the very serious people who were warning us about the increasing federal debt? I've not heard from them in the last couple of years.

Any information as to their present whereabouts would be appreciated.

Thank you.

We split over Trump between those who were, apparently, only using it as a political club against Obama and never meant it, and those of us who recognized that Trump was a big-government big-spending progressive who would make our national fisc worse.

 

[cpwill]

Help rescue America from those who think the US can spend as much money as it likes without negative consequences. Vote republican in 2020.

Why, if I wanted to shrink the size and scope of the American government, would I vote for a party that - year after year - increases it?


On the question of whether or not we want to drive off the fiscal cliff, the major parties in America have the following positions:

Democrats: Drive over the cliff while accelerating.
Republicans: Drive over the cliff while accelerating less.

 

[marke]

So you plan is to "rescue America from those who think the US can spend as much money as it likes without negative consequences" is to vote for the party that thinks the US can spend as much money as it likes.

I advocate retiring politicians who think we do not have a debt problem.



Help promote responsible fiscal policies and stop pork spending foolishness and unsustainable government growth. Vote republican in 2020.

 

[marke]

It didn't bring down Japan.

The economy always does better under democratic leadership and that's a fact.

Here's another fact, all three presidents that were businessmen, Hoover, GWBush and Trump...were complete failures....and they were all republicans.

Too many democrats show too much ignorance when it comes to wasteful spending. The reason the debt has not bankrupted us before was because it was never as bad as it is getting now.



Help stop stupid spending which is driving the US toward bankruptcy. Vote republican in 2020.

 

[marke]

Why, if I wanted to shrink the size and scope of the American government, would I vote for a party that - year after year - increases it?


On the question of whether or not we want to drive off the fiscal cliff, the major parties in America have the following positions:

Democrats: Drive over the cliff while accelerating.
Republicans: Drive over the cliff while accelerating less.

Democrats fight to raise the debt ceiling. Republicans fright to keep the debt ceiling from being raised. Democrats want trillions of dollars spend on foolishness, like global warming. Republicans tend to advocate against spending money like there is no end in sight.



Help put the brakes on wasteful spending foolishness. Vote republican in 2020.

 

[Far right dem]

I advocate retiring politicians who think we do not have a debt problem.

Agreed. Get rid of trump.

 

[Far right dem]

Republicans fright to keep the debt ceiling from being raised.

:lol:

 

[marke]

:lol:

Here is Obama trying to force republicans to agree to raise the debt ceiling:

battles during the Obama administration over raising the debt ceiling - Bing video -

Obama advocates raising the debt ceiling.


Help put a stop to out-of-control spending. Vote republican in 2020.

 

[Far right dem]

Here is Obama trying to force republicans to agree to raise the debt ceiling:

battles during the Obama administration over raising the debt ceiling - Bing video -

Obama advocates raising the debt ceiling.


Help put a stop to out-of-control spending. Vote republican in 2020.

Trump signs budget deal and suspends debt ceiling until 2021 - CBS News
Trump Says Debt Ceiling Is 'Not Necessary.' Is He Right? : NPR

 

[Conservative]

Where are all the very serious people who were warning us about the increasing federal debt? I've not heard from them in the last couple of years.

Any information as to their present whereabouts would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Really a rather simple concept to understand, Congress spends the money and does to to buy votes, keep power and create dependence. The issue will always be return on that debt, what did the taxpayers get for that Congressional spending. The left has no problem with social spending and no problem with higher taxes. The American electorate responds better to lower taxes and more state and local responsibilities.

It isn't the issue of the debt as much as it is what do we get for that debt. Here is a comparison so let's see you the left actually gets it. Obama added 9.3 trillion to the debt in 8 years, Trump has been in office three years with 3 budget years including this one during a world wide pandemic and massive federal stimulus. Doubt that the left understands that and will continue to focus on higher taxes ignoring that higher taxes means less economic activity as people don't have extra money to spend. Hope this helps you understand the difference

There seems to be a real disconnect when it comes to debt and the results generated from that debt thus showing that all debt isn't equal. What exactly did the American taxpayers get out of the Obama debt??

1. The worst recovery from a major recession in modern history
2. Employment not getting back to pre recession levels until 2014
3. Record numbers of part time for economic reason employment meaning part time jobs thus lower taxpaying jobs
4. 500 billion average annual GDP growth for 8 years(4.0 Trillion GDP growth)
5. 9.3% U-6 Unemployment rate
6. Bail out of the pubic sector and claimed saved jobs which didn't generate the promised new jobs thus new taxpayers from 842 billion dollar shovel ready jobs stimulus

What have we gotten for the Trump debt

1. Strong economic growth, 900 billion average GDP growth 2017-2018-2019(2.7 trillion growth)
2. Employment of 6.6 million jobs created in 3 years vs. 6 million jobs created prior to taking office the last 9 years
3. 6.9% U-6 vs. 9.3% that he inherited
4. 1.4 million fewer part time for economic reason employees than inherited
5. 6% African American unemployment vs. the 8% inherited
6. Record state and local tax revenue due to consumer spending as a result of the tax cuts
7. No massive Gov't stimulus program pre pandemic

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Really a rather simple concept to understand, Congress spends the money and does to to buy votes, keep power and create dependence. The issue will always be return on that debt, what did the taxpayers get for that Congressional spending. The left has no problem with social spending and no problem with higher taxes. The American electorate responds better to lower taxes and more state and local responsibilities.

It isn't the issue of the debt as much as it is what do we get for that debt. Here is a comparison so let's see you the left actually gets it. Obama added 9.3 trillion to the debt in 8 years, Trump has been in office three years with 3 budget years including this one during a world wide pandemic and massive federal stimulus. Doubt that the left understands that and will continue to focus on higher taxes ignoring that higher taxes means less economic activity as people don't have extra money to spend. Hope this helps you understand the difference

There seems to be a real disconnect when it comes to debt and the results generated from that debt thus showing that all debt isn't equal. What exactly did the American taxpayers get out of the Obama debt??

1. The worst recovery from a major recession in modern history
2. Employment not getting back to pre recession levels until 2014
3. Record numbers of part time for economic reason employment meaning part time jobs thus lower taxpaying jobs
4. 500 billion average annual GDP growth for 8 years(4.0 Trillion GDP growth)
5. 9.3% U-6 Unemployment rate
6. Bail out of the pubic sector and claimed saved jobs which didn't generate the promised new jobs thus new taxpayers from 842 billion dollar shovel ready jobs stimulus

What have we gotten for the Trump debt

1. Strong economic growth, 900 billion average GDP growth 2017-2018-2019(2.7 trillion growth)
2. Employment of 6.6 million jobs created in 3 years vs. 6 million jobs created prior to taking office the last 9 years
3. 6.9% U-6 vs. 9.3% that he inherited
4. 1.4 million fewer part time for economic reason employees than inherited
5. 6% African American unemployment vs. the 8% inherited
6. Record state and local tax revenue due to consumer spending as a result of the tax cuts
7. No massive Gov't stimulus program pre pandemic

Congress does not spend money, it appropriates.


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[Conservative]

Congress does not spend money, it appropriates.


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It does both, The President only spends the discretionary budget approximately 1.5 trillion dollars

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[Conservative]

Regarding the Missing person alert, this missing person presents the following to educate those of you who do not understand that the budget has three basic parts, mandatory spending(Entitlement), Discretionary Spending(Cabinet), and debt service(Interest on accumulated debt) Here is the link to assist you

U.S. Federal Budget Breakdown

The 2021 Trump budget showing the line items that Trump spends

• Defense: $633 billion
• Health and Human Services: $106 billion
• Veterans Affairs: $93 billion
• Education: $72 billion
• Housing and Urban Development: $57 billion
• Homeland Security: $48 billion
• State: $48 billion
• Energy: $39 billion
• Justice: $32 billion
• NASA: $23 billion

Now for the revenue and what they fund

Income taxes contribute $1.932 trillion or 50% of total receipts.(discretionary spending)
Social Security, Medicare, and other payroll taxes add $1.373 trillion or 36%.(FICA(payroll taxes) Funds Mandatory speending
Corporate taxes supply $284 billion or 7%.(discretionary spending)
Excise taxes and tariffs contribute $141 billion or 4%.(discretionary spending)
Earnings from the Federal Reserve's holdings add $71 billion or 2%. Those are interest payments on the U.S. Treasury debt the Fed acquired through quantitative easing.(discretionary spending)
Estate taxes and other miscellaneous revenue supply the remaining 1%.(discretionary spending)

Hope this helps

 

[AliHajiSheik]

It does both, The President only spends the discretionary budget approximately 1.5 trillion dollars

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No, Congress can only appropriate. All government checks are written by the Treasury and only if authorized to do so.


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[Conservative]

No, Congress can only appropriate. All government checks are written by the Treasury and only if authorized to do so.


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Better take a refresher course, but an authorized payment is indeed spending the money, wordsmithing at its worse!! Congress authorized the impeachment expenses and the bills were paid, Congress authorized the budget so not exactly sure what your point is

I gave a very detailed explanation of the debt, care to respond?

 

[calamity]

Better take a refresher course, but an authorized payment is indeed spending the money, wordsmithing at its worse!! Congress authorized the impeachment expenses and the bills were paid, Congress authorized the budget so not exactly sure what your point is

I gave a very detailed explanation of the debt, care to respond?

Maybe the Right should spend some money on keeping the US from becoming a third world country.

Oh.

Sorry.

Too late.

How America Is A Third World Country
Health is wealth, and America is poor

 

[Conservative]

Maybe the Right should spend some money on keeping the US from becoming a third world country.

Oh.

Sorry.

Too late.

How America Is A Third World Country
Health is wealth, and America is poor

Right, what we need is more social spending as Federal, state, and local spending just isn't enough. There will never be enough money spent on social programs for the liberal spending appetite. Guess personal responsibility wasn't taught in your school system nor state and local responsibilities where most social programs reside