Milwaukee County Judge Dugan indicted, grand jury meets Tuesday

[SNOWFLAKE]

Answer the question that wasn't even posed to her?

Excuse me?
She was responding to THIS question:

Would you say that as long as all the illegal immigrants and their disgusting parasite children (whether born citizens or not) are gone, you don’t care how it’s done?

If you can't keep up with the conversation, then maybe you should just bow out.

 

[Hello My Son]

Excuse me?

It's not that difficult.

She was responding to THIS question:

She was responding to a question that was directed at another poster and pointing out how ****ed up the question was.

If you can't keep up with the conversation, then maybe you should just bow out.

The question wasn't posed to her. It was posed to @nota bene.

Pay closer attention from now on so you don't make such foolish mistakes.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

It's not that difficult.



She was responding to a question that was directed at another poster and pointing out how ****ed up the question was.



The question wasn't posed to her. It was posed to @nota bene.

Pay closer attention from now on so you don't make such foolish mistakes.

Yet Josie interjected without answering the question. Just like you just interjected. Maybe YOU can answer the question.

 

[Hello My Son]

Yet Josie interjected without answering the question.

Yeah, it's called having an opinion that a question is stupid. When you call out other posters for asking stupid questions, you wouldn't answer the question in the process.

Duh.

Just like you just interjected. Maybe YOU can answer the question.

I don't answer questions in which posters choose to disparage children by referring to them as "disgusting parasite children." Why would you take someone like that seriously? If you choose to enable others to refer to children as "disgusting parasite children" or, worse, think that children are "disgusting parasite(s)" too, then that's very disturbing.

 

[reflechissez]

I'm not interested in playing games. Would you like to debate the topic we're discussing or not?

since when?

 

[Xilnik]

To be clear, the agents were waiting outside the courtroom.

Interesting. I guess I misunderstood the reports. I'll be curious to see the defense and ruling.

 

[dcsports]

And he outran the ICE agents? He disappeared? He's still at large?

How is the potential prisoner's ability to outrun the ICE agents the judge's responsibility?

Don't be absurd. You know better.

They caught him, but again, rather than arresting him in a controlled environment, screened for weapons, with his attorney present, the arrest exposed the suspect, agents, and the public, to a potentially dangerous chase and arrest.

 

[dcsports]

If she had a problem with them taking custody of the defendant, she could have sought assistance from federal judges who were already starting to rule against the use of the Alien Enemies Act. She would have been within her rights to do so.

She absolutely could have pursued a legal path, and appealed to a federal judge, or supervisory agents.

This arrest had nothing do with the alien enemies act. It likely would have happened under any president. Noting, the guy had already been deported, re-entered the country illegally, and flagged the ICE system for his arrest after beating his roommate and his girlfriend over loud music. I would hope we could all agree that this is the type of person we don't want in our country.

 

[j brown's body]

that's your opinion. I completely disagree . However Holder's fascist seizure of journalists' phone records is a fact

Holder wasn't out to destroy the independence of the judicial branch. Trump is.

Your whataboutism isn't an apples to apples comparison.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Grand jury indicts Milwaukee County Judge Dugan; here's what we know

Dugan is accused of helping an undocumented man evade arrest and obstructing federal agents.

www.fox6now.com

Guess the grand jury agreed with the evidence presented.

5 grand juries agreed with the evidence presented against Trump. He weaseled out of 4 of them. You never know what can happen.

 

[j brown's body]

She absolutely could have pursued a legal path, and appealed to a federal judge, or supervisory agents.

This arrest had nothing do with the alien enemies act. It likely would have happened under any president. Noting, the guy had already been deported, re-entered the country illegally, and flagged the ICE system for his arrest after beating his roommate and his girlfriend over loud music. I would hope we could all agree that this is the type of person we don't want in our country.

There are considerably worse.

He showed up for justice, so there is that.

 

[Xilnik]

She absolutely could have pursued a legal path, and appealed to a federal judge, or supervisory agents.

This arrest had nothing do with the alien enemies act. It likely would have happened under any president. Noting, the guy had already been deported, re-entered the country illegally, and flagged the ICE system for his arrest after beating his roommate and his girlfriend over loud music. I would hope we could all agree that this is the type of person we don't want in our country.

Her concern was he would face rendition to El Salvador's prisons. That's why I mentioned she should have taken it up with federal courts if that was her primary concern instead of taking matters into her own hands. I'm fine with deportation that follows the legal process. The renditions are what need to stop, and those are primarily occurring under the Alien Enemies Act.

Reading up on this, it seems Eduardo Flores-Ruiz faced expedited deportation to Mexico, so her concerns were unfounded. It's unfortunate she made such a mistake with no real reason for her fears.

 

[Pound4abrown]

She “screwed up”? She endangered many with her “screw up”. No need to twist what she did, there are witnesses to what actually occurred. And they gave statements. And she has been indicted. As she should be. She can plead her case as others before her court have done.

Bull****ing shit.
You have bought the narrative, but wholly.
No one was endangered.

 

[Pound4abrown]

I predict that she won’t be returned to the bench.

Not a huge leap there.

 

[Pound4abrown]

So, what do you think of this indictment?

I think the same of this indictment that I thought of all of Trump's indictments.
They all worked for me, he got his day in court on some of them, and lost, bigly.
Time will tell if the Judge loses her case. Either way, her career is over.

 

[dcsports]

Her concern was he would face rendition to El Salvador's prisons. That's why I mentioned she should have taken it up with federal courts if that was her primary concern instead of taking matters into her own hands. I'm fine with deportation that follows the legal process. The renditions are what need to stop, and those are occurring under the Alien Enemies Act.

That was a non-issue in this case. No one even suggested he would go there, or even be deported before facing trial for his current crimes.

The flip side of advocating for this person is that he was a defendant in her court. She's supposed to be a neutral judge of the facts in that case - not an advocate for the defendant. He literally had his attorney with him, who's there to protect his rights. She could have let the attorney know, and told him to let her staff know if he needed anything from HER court, then proceeded with the hearing as scheduled.

 

[j brown's body]

That was a non-issue in this case. No one even suggested he would go there, or even be deported before facing trial for his current crimes.

The flip side of advocating for this person is that he was a defendant in her court. She's supposed to be a neutral judge of the facts in that case - not an advocate for the defendant. He literally had his attorney with him, who's there to protect his rights. She could have let the attorney know, and told him to let her staff know if he needed anything from HER court, then proceeded with the hearing as scheduled.

I suspect she was acting as an advocate for the independence of the court itself.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I am not surprised an indictment was secured, the standard to obtain it is not that big of a leap. The trial phase is likely to be very different.

 

[dcsports]

I suspect she was acting as an advocate for the independence of the court itself.

How so? By injecting herself in federal case for a defendant in her court?

The courthouse had established a policy, and the agents were following it. They were bending over backwards to keep from impacting the proceeding in her courtroom. You MIGHT be able to make that case if the only piece was the tantrum in the hallway, but she went way beyond that. She even sacrificed the hearing in the case before her, at the expense of the prosecution and victims waiting.

 

[eohrnberger]

Intimidating judges to attack an outgroup scapegoat is right out the Nazi playbook.

You are confusing enforcing immigration law and obstructing its enforcement with 'attack an outgroup scapegoat'.

That you appear to view the world in terms of 'outgroup' and 'ingroup' already demonstrates identify politics thinking.
If you frame your world view by identify politics thinking, that's all you'll ever see.

 

[Pound4abrown]

I'm not interested in playing games. Would you like to debate the topic we're discussing or not?

 

[j brown's body]

You are confusing enforcing immigration law and obstructing its enforcement with 'attack an outgroup scapegoat'.

That you appear to view the world in terms of 'outgroup' and 'ingroup' already demonstrates identify politics thinking.
If you frame your world view by identify politics thinking, that's all you'll ever see.

The administration's handling of the judge has a classic Fascist angle to it. They all try to destroy the independence of the juducuary. For obvious reasons.

 

[j brown's body]

How so? By injecting herself in federal case for a defendant in her court?

The courthouse had established a policy, and the agents were following it. They were bending over backwards to keep from impacting the proceeding in her courtroom. You MIGHT be able to make that case if the only piece was the tantrum in the hallway, but she went way beyond that. She even sacrificed the hearing in the case before her, at the expense of the prosecution and victims waiting.

The feds injected themselves. They didn't have to. They could have arrested him before he entered the courthouse.

 

[dcsports]

The feds injected themselves. They didn't have to. They could have arrested him before he entered the courthouse.

That's silly.

The goal is to arrest him after he's been screened, in a controlled environment. Again, they were bending over backward to NOT interfere with Dugan's hearing - which arresting him would have done. And again, they were following the draft policy (being used by the courthouse as an interim process) - which includes not arresting until after the hearing is complete.

 

[eohrnberger]

Yes, of course. We know. Racist conservative authoritarianism died with Adolf Hitler on April 30, 1945. And no one was fascist ever again after that.

An interesting fabrication of yours.
Because I know of no poster here who's asserting this.

And it has become an all too frequent false accusation by the left that others are racist. Every accusation by the left being a confession.