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Far too many of us - of all political persuasions - simply do not want to see much the less acknowledge the similarities.
Not for a sitting judge.Arrest before indictment is common.
I’m not laughing
and it’s sad that you think I’m trying to persuade you.
I’m well aware how desperate folks are to deny the reality, but maybe you should blame your leaders who act like Nazis for these cognitively painful comparisons rather than shooting me, the messenger.
What are they getting exactly. That breaking the law and helping illegal immigrants evade arrest will come with consequences. The horror.Which is the point.
And other judges will see this, too, and they'll 'get it'. As will other mayors, sheriffs, chiefs of police, members of congress, and ordinary activists. Even if there's ultimately no conviction, criminal defenses in federal cases can easily run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Who has that kind of cash laying around?
Fascism uses a pattern of intimidation to coerce everyone into compliance through the innate human desire for self-preservation.
The best Nazis were the ones who denied the intimidation, who gaslit those who were sounding alarms until it was too late.
Post #227Not for a sitting judge.
Trump didn’t get arrested before indictment. Why is that? He ended up convicted of 34 felonies.
The answer is simple, they arrested her to send a message. They don’t care about the merits of the case, they just want to intimidate.
Lots of words, still no verification of your claims about laws that the judge is supposed to have violated - and the ways in which she broke the laws.
I am not surprised.
Good luck.
No corroboration of claims.Lots of avoidance. Still no verification in any of your posts that you've done your basic research on the topic rather than expecting everyone else to do the intellectual work for you.
I am not surprised.
I don’t care about persuasion, about manipulation. I seek to inform. I do not hold myself responsible for what you choose to deny.I am.
No. It's hilarious that you're trying to persuade me that everything that doesn't meet your approval is just like Nazi Germany.
I see that the Nazi comparisons make you very uncomfortable. They should, they make me very uncomfortable. But instead of denying the reality, instead of serving Trump, I choose to face my discomfort.How exactly can something be "cognitively painful?" "Cognitive" doesn't mean what you think it means.
I’m, of course, flattered that you are so concerned.Then why aren't you scared for your life? You're being pretty bold by publicly posting all this anti-fascist stuff when there's a supposed fascist president rounding up people to slaughter right now. Please tell me that you at least have protected your true identity!
Indeed. But it is usually best to save one’s energy debating people who actually sincerely believe what they are saying, even if they are wrong, rather than someone who does not believe in the truth of anything they are saying to you.
Post #237My claim was that specific crimes exist by name, and then then I corroborated this claim with links to reputable websites confirming that the crimes I named are indeed crimes.
It's really fascinating how this is so difficult for anyone to understand. My post was pretty straightforward, after all.
LOL!Well, I am finding that the trouble13-shaped hole in my heart is quickly being filled.
Thank you for making it clear that so many of those calls from the far left that no one was above the law to be the completely bs I minute they were.She's resisting this country becoming a police state. The sooner that you and everyone else can see that, the better. I don't give a drop of flea piss of the charges against her are technically valid.
I don’t care about persuasion, about manipulation. I seek to inform. I do not hold myself responsible for what you choose to deny.
I see that the Nazi comparisons make you very uncomfortable.
They should, they make me very uncomfortable.
But instead of denying the reality, instead of serving Trump, I choose to face my discomfort.
I’m, of course, flattered that you are so concerned.
Why should a sitting judge be given special treatment?Not for a sitting judge.
Traitor Trump’s charges were based on years of fraudulent state tax filings that took nearly 5 years of investigations before the DA moved forward to charge.Trump didn’t get arrested before indictment. Why is that? He ended up convicted of 34 felonies.
The arrest/charges can be both warranted and a public display by Traitor Trump’s MAGAt AG.The answer is simple, they arrested her to send a message. They don’t care about the merits of the case, they just want to intimidate.
No. If they are illegally here deporting them is what should happen.The group of undocumented immigrants are absolutely being scapegoated.
Blames them? For what?Trump full-throated blames them for all kinds of things. His poor, gullible supporters are too scared chickenshit to see how they’re being completely manipulated.
from the BBC article:Methods of increasing control - Why the Nazis were able to stay in power - Higher History Revision - BBC Bitesize
For Higher History, learn the methods the Nazis used to control the German population and maintain power.www.bbc.co.uk
Post #237
As I've said, I don't do your work. That means I don't read your links in search of proof re the laws that the judge is supposed to have broken - and the specific actions you think she's taken that violated those laws you're referring to.
But, hey, you've posted cutesy graphics instead of actually corroborating your claims. Perhaps, in your world, that's sufficient. I'm happy for you.
Concealing a person from arrest and obstruction of proceedings are indeed crimes.
Your word isn't good enough.
Your word for what is law, your word for the facts about what the judge did, aren't good enough.
Lol, those are the exact crimes that the judge is charged with committing. It isn't my word. They're literal crimes.
How do you not know this if you've done even the most basic amount of research on this topic?
Federal Crime of Concealing Person from Arrest – 18 U.S.C. § 1071
Obstruction Of Pending Proceeding -- 18 U.S.C. 1505
As I've said, I don't do your work.
from the BBC article:
"...no-one could now challenge the Nazis legally - making opposition very dangerous..."
Yes, we can still challenge actions taken by trump and his minions, but our access to legal representation that can take on the Federal Government is being limited via trump and bondi's attacks on BigLaw firms.
The last time I checked, 9 BigLaw firms had succumbed to trump and bondi's assaults and, perhaps, have effectively taken themselves out of the challenge-trump's-administration pool. Five, including Perkins Coie (for those of us not in the legal field, I recently discovered that Coie is pronounced, coo-ee), are fighting back via law suits.
That’s not what I said, that’s not even what I implied.So you don't ever believe yourself to be incorrect about anything. Very telling. Very telling indeed...
That’s also not what I said.Uncomfortable with stomach cramps from endless laughter!
Show me on the dolls where they make you uncomfortable....
So you know you're not actually under any threat. Got it.
Hysterical hyperbole fail. Nice try, though!
WilmerHale is one of the 5 BigLaw firms that is fighting back against trump's thuggery.The last time I checked, 9 BigLaw firms had succumbed to trump and bondi's assaults and, perhaps, have effectively taken themselves out of the challenge-trump's-administration pool. Five, including Perkins Coie (for those of us not in the legal field, I recently discovered that Coie is pronounced, coo-ee), are fighting back via law suits.
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