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Slow down. I think you’re dragging the provocation line farther than the law does.My recollection is that it was a private criminal charge, which is allowable in that jurisdiction.
Sure, but that doesn't make it an 11 year felony. Shoving someone in a brief altercation where the shove-ee was berating a 12 year old ain't an 11 year felony. It's small misdemeanor under state law, at most.
Sure, the facts matter, of course. And, it's not always a question of going completely without punishment - one can commit an assault which is a second degree misdemeanor, but if one planned the assault and jumped a black man as part of a conspiracy to attack people because of their race, then it becomes a federal hate crime. So, the facts matter. Shoving some asshole who is yelling at one's 12 year old son seems more in line with a second degree misdemeanor. If he shoved a pregnant woman who was minding her own business and just walking to a clinic, then I would have another view of it.
Yes, local level. But, the feds came in, as usual, overcharging and "sending a message." What it says is, if someone provokes you during your antiabortion protest, you may go to jail for 11 years, so think carefully before you protest....
This cat attained martyrdom, when as an serial agitator he had to know that you must keep your hands of the harassed.Sure, in Arbery, though, it was a murder, on video. Feds stepping in like this in this case seems like overreach.
Misleading as the charges against the individual were dropped in their state because the evidence doesn't support it. I'm sure it really took 30 FBI agents in full gear to go after this dangerous individual who shove away a rabid activist who accosted him and his 12 year old kid.Ok so what crimes will republicans not object to the criminal being arrested for their crime?
If it had been a 40 something pro choice person assaulting a 72 year old anti choice person TWICE I'm sure the republicans wouldn't think it's overreach to arrest the criminal who assaulted the 72 year old.
But since it's reversed, mike lee believes it's overreach to arrest the anti choice person who assaulted a 72 year old man twice.
What has happened to the Republican Party?
That’s what he was there for. No pregnant woman was thrown to the ground, were they?He wasn't protecting anybody.
Which one was lawfully there to escort the ladies though the gantlet & who was there to harass the pro choice people?Misleading as the charges against the individual were dropped in their state because the evidence doesn't support it. I'm sure it really took 30 FBI agents in full gear to go after this dangerous individual who shove away a rabid activist who accosted him and his 12 year old kid.
He is now, if you believe. Otherwise he’s just dead.
Before you know it’ll be 50 agents & a SWAT team.Misleading as the charges against the individual were dropped in their state because the evidence doesn't support it. I'm sure it really took 30 FBI agents in full gear to go after this dangerous individual who shove away a rabid activist who accosted him and his 12 year old kid.
Deflection noted.Which one was lawfully there to escort the ladies though the gantlet & who was there to harass the pro choice people?
How a deflection? The thread is about these two folks. Just say you don’t know, if you don’t.Deflection noted.
Ok so what crimes will republicans not object to the criminal being arrested for their crime?
If it had been a 40 something pro choice person assaulting a 72 year old anti choice person TWICE I'm sure the republicans wouldn't think it's overreach to arrest the criminal who assaulted the 72 year old.
But since it's reversed, mike lee believes it's overreach to arrest the anti choice person who assaulted a 72 year old man twice.
What has happened to the Republican Party?
How is it a deflection? It's about the dude going after the dad and their kid and you want to make it about something else. It's telling that the FBI had to do an over the top raid while the local officials had dropped it. Pathetic.How a deflection? The thread is about these two folks. Just say you don’t know, if you don’t.
No pregnant woman was present whatsoever from what I've seen. He wasn't protecting anyone.That’s what he was there for. No pregnant woman was thrown to the ground, were they?
Oh you didn’t mean white insurrectionest? You mean those Blacks who were protesting a real thing.
Fascist leftists love their police state.How is it a deflection? It's about the dude going after the dad and their kid and you want to make it about something else. It's telling that the FBI had to do an over the top raid while the local officials had dropped it. Pathetic.
The law they are using to go after him in the 1st place is unconstitutional.Fascist leftists love their police state.
George Floyd is still dead. Real thing...Threatening and harrassing people while they eat dinner is not "protesting." We can beg to differ on whether it was over a "real thing."
Fascist Leftist is like Jumbo Shrimp or Military Intelligence, an oxymoron.Fascist leftists love their police state.
Misleading as the charges against the individual were dropped in their state because the evidence doesn't support it. I'm sure it really took 30 FBI agents in full gear to go after this dangerous individual who shove away a rabid activist who accosted him and his 12 year old kid.
Only for the historically ignorant.Fascist Leftist is like Jumbo Shrimp or Military Intelligence, an oxymoron.
Yes. That was demonstrated by him getting in the other guys face and verbally harassing and yelling at him and his 12 yo son. A guy that was actually there to do what you said would've focused on escorting, like he was supposed to.Rabid activist? So the elderly man who is there to help women is a "rabid activist", and the guy who was there to harass women isn't?
Yes. That was demonstrated by him getting in the other guys face and verbally harassing and yelling at him and his 12 yo son. A guy that was actually there to do what you said would've focused on escorting, like he was supposed to.
George Floyd is still dead. Real thing...
Do you have a video we can look at showing the guy there to "harass" women?Rabid activist? So the elderly man who is there to help women is a "rabid activist", and the guy who was there to harass women isn't?
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