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Michigan GOP leaders encourage rule breaking at poll worker training session

Grizzly Adams said:
Apparently, Michigan does, as they prohibit poll workers from possessing pens and paper.
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Not likely.
The article was not well written on that area.
Methinks the writer was confused between Poll Workers and poll watchers.es
Poll Workers are those in the Polling Place conducting the Election, poll watchers are folks tasked via campaigns and or political parties to sit and observe the conducting of an election in a precinct.
It is something, this distinction, I see folks get wrong all the time.
Grizzly Adams said:
According to the article, anyway.
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Article writers do make mistakes.
Grizzly Adams said:
Or because you don't know the rule in Michigan.
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There is that.
But I know how to find out.
Grizzly Adams said:
(I don't either, beyond what's in the article, which is that poll workers cannot possess pens and paper.)
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Which, again, is not likely to be accurate reporting, but I could be wrong.
 
Ikari said:
And how much of your time here is spent on downplaying these violations of local law? Every post you made is a deflection and downplay.

Quit lying.
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I'm not excusing anything in that post. And I'm not lying. You're the one lying, and you just posted proof of it by claiming I excused anything.

Give it up, stop lying, and go educate yourself.
 
Sabre said:
That's funny. If the GOP was doing the fraud, instead of the Dems, Trump would still be President. But he isn't and a career do nothing is.
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Career do-nothing? George W is long gone, dog. Don't you know? This is the do-something moment for a lot of lefties. They're investing in the future, they're confronting fascism at home, and they are going to whup republican ass, at the polls, in defense of the human rights of women.

The GOP IS doing the fraud when they knowingly lie about the election, creating instability in our democracy as a result. They are a fraud when they scream for a total ban on abortion, until that position hurts their chances of winning, and they suddenly "evolve" in to a more moderate place. The GOP is doing the fraud when they preach Jesus out of one side of their mouths but still celebrate violent, racist fantasies.

The reason Trump is not president is not because of Biden's superior fraud, or whatever, it was a few, brave, principled humans who didn't bend to Trump's various instruments of decent, and that is both encouraging and frightening.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're joking. I can't believe you guys really believe your own bullshit. Crazy world.
 
Minerva said:
Your request is without merit. The article refers to the conflict between GOP trainers and the poll watchers over violating rules for election processes. If there were no rules pertaining to this, there would be no conflict and thus no story. End of story.

If you are really curious about how Michigan runs their elections, here is a link that should help.

Michigan Election Administration
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The issue appears to be local rules / interpretation of state laws. The law says that they can't USE a video camera or recording device in the polling place. (If you have more specific information, I'd love to see it) If a local jurisdiction is extending that to 'can't HAVE a phone' - that's a big stretch, and certainly it's ridiculous to extend that to pens.

I don't agree with getting into a rule breaking match, or asking poll watchers to be 'sneaky' - this really is something the secretary of state should clarify before voting begins.

www.freep.com

Here are the rules Michigan poll watchers, election challengers must follow

Michigan voters, you might notice a poll watcher or election challenger observing the process. Here's what they're allowed to do.
www.freep.com
 
Ikari said:
And how much of your time here is spent on downplaying these violations of local law? Every post you made is a deflection and downplay.

Quit lying.
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That SOUNDS like the conflict here. I wish CNN would have dug into that a little further, instead of rambling on about other issues. It's almost like they clipped on canned text or had an AI generate everything after the first few paragraphs.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
I'm not sure one can tally "poll worker has a pen and some Post-Its" under the "election fraud" column, but go ahead and try.
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Now that's an inaccurate description of events.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
No one has yet established how "local election rules" are synonymous with "election laws."


U FRST.
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Yet, part of the instructions were to be secretive and quiet about it.
 
Sov cits make me laugh.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Also, pointless cruelty.

And also disease-mongering. The right wing LIKES epidemics. You can tell because they actively try to stop anyone trying to reduce the impact of epidemics.
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If there's cruelty involved, believe me, there's a point to it. We just may not like the point they're making.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Cite it.


Traffic laws are actually... laws. They're, you know... written down and, like, passed by a legislature and stuff.


CITE IT.


What is it you think I'm consciously and intentionally misrepresenting?
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Actually most motor vehicle speed limits are considered a regulation. It's the law that allows the limit. States do not have to go back to their legislatures to change speed limits, therefore it is a regulation of a law.

Have a nice day
 
Fearandloathing said:
Actually most motor vehicle speed limits are considered a regulation. It's the law that allows the limit. States do not have to go back to their legislatures to change speed limits, therefore it is a regulation of a law.

Have a nice day
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Then it should be trivially easy to cite the statute that does so for local election laws.

The howling over such a simple request is insane.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
By saying that an actual statute is just a rule?

That's pretty much the opposite of what's been going on, but you go ahead and keep saying dumb things.
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I mean, I'm just sitting here watching you say it's okay to cheat in elections.

Because you hate the republic. I mean, that's no surprise, given that you don't care about anything other than yourself, by your own admission.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I mean, I'm just sitting here watching you say it's okay to cheat in elections.

Because you hate the republic. I mean, that's no surprise, given that you don't care about anything other than yourself, by your own admission.
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There is nothing in your post that approaches the truth.

Buh-bye.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
I didn't see a citation to the Michigan code, just a pdf about election watching.

Care to try again?
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So you are going to reject a PDF from the state of Michigan government on the rules and responsibilities for poll watchers? I know the game you are playing(challenge everything, then deny you are covering for people encouraging violating election rules, distract and divert from the topic by endless, mindless, idiotic challenges), but you are failing at it, hardcore.
 
There are no restrictions for Poll Workers having and using pens in the Polling Place in the conduct of the election.

Again, Poll Workers, taking and secreting notes, to hand over to outside agents, would obviously be violating their oath.

Using phones to record (video or photos) of anything but images of ones ballot before they have left the voting booth is prohibited.

Poll Workers, poll watchers, Credentialed Poll Challengers are not permitted to record any activity with any device in the Polling Place during hours of Voting.

There are no restrictions listed for poll watchers or Credentialed Poll Challengers regarding their having pens and papers.
 
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