I had not heard that the suv was in motion. Who's testimony is that?
the judge does not decide guilt or innocence
That's a fact. Get over it.
On CCW, and yet - again- I've made my case very clearly.
that's even silly given the context Dana
That's true, but the judge does not decide guilt or innocence. As for guns, this is yet another instance in the case I keep making about not letting just anybody pack heat. You can yell all you want, but had that idiot Dunn not been allowed to carry, that kid would still be alive and Dunn would have a lot less to worry about.
just sayin'
I wasn't the one arguing race until someone else tried to make this a blame whitey rant. I am merely noting that when it comes to interracial murders blacks kill far more whites than vice versa. and racism may have some role but may not depending on the crime.
So you would in essence use ESP to do this? We do not have the thought police in this country, we don't prosecute crimes beforehand without reasonable proof of a conspiracy etc. Please point out the evidence that would have stripped Dunn of his right to self defence under the law?
No it's not actually. Excons argument amounts to "Lets just take the guys word for it."
That's true, but misses the underlying pattern:
White on white - 2,614
White on black - 193
Black on black - 2,412
Black on white - 431
Mostly, whites kill other whites and blacks kill other blacks.
Well if you are going to allow people to defend themselves, you have to take their word for the fact they felt their lives are threatened.
No, we don't. But it is still innocent until proven guilty, so the State has to demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense.
so if the judge throws out a conviction what has the court done
you have not made any case on CCW other than whining about it
jet57 wants to make CCW illegal apparently. he constantly posts stories of isolated incidents of stupid gun owners in a failing effort to argue CCW is dangerous to the public
Well if you are going to allow people to defend themselves, you have to take their word for the fact they felt their lives are threatened.
So you would in essence use ESP to do this? We do not have the thought police in this country, we don't prosecute crimes beforehand without reasonable proof of a conspiracy etc. Please point out the evidence that would have stripped Dunn of his right to self defence under the law?
If a judhe throws out a conviction, it's based on some sort of factual impropriety of some sort and violation of the law. The judge is not deciding on guilt or innocence. The prossecution can decide to retry if they are able.
As for CCW; you lost that debate, It's another thread I'm not arguing it again here: that's off topic.
Either go back to that thread or start a new one: wherein I;ll probably just copy and paste all the evidence that beat you the first time.
:lamo
That's true, but misses the underlying pattern:
White on white - 2,614
White on black - 193
Black on black - 2,412
Black on white - 431
Mostly, whites kill other whites and blacks kill other blacks.
(chuckle)
man
ESP.... (The nonsense of the right-wing is just astounding)
The law ought reflect that a person must show cause in order for concealed carry. Tha'ts how it used to be in California at least. I think it should be that way all over the US. But of course the gun nuts have seen to that, and as a result Dunn killed an unarmed kid who was playing his music too loud. Ya'see; Dunn's right to carry superceded that boy's right right to live... I mean right? That's what the gun nuts think. And of course, as usual then - stupid is as stupid does.
Well if you are going to allow people to defend themselves, you have to take their word for the fact they felt their lives are threatened.
Taking into account the number of whites vs blacks, you would be more likely as a criminal to run into a white person no matter what race you are.
Informative post. Thanks.
Some people think that any white person should be able to kill any black person for no good reason and walk away smelling like a rose.
That's not the way that justice is supposed to work in the USA.
"If you do the crime, be prepared to do the time."
Shoot a black person. Tell me how innocent you will be treated, unless you prove your innocence in court. Then you are still guilty in the worlds court of opinion anyway and your life is over.
If that black person was unarmed, your life SHOULD be over.
Shoot an UNARMED black person. Tell me how innocent you will be treated, unless you prove your innocence in court. Then you are still guilty in the worlds court of opinion anyway and your life is over.
I had not heard that the suv was in motion. Who's testimony is that?
(chuckle)
man
ESP.... (The nonsense of the right-wing is just astounding)
The law ought reflect that a person must show cause in order for concealed carry.
Tha'ts how it used to be in California at least. I think it should be that way all over the US. But of course the gun nuts have seen to that, and as a result Dunn killed an unarmed kid who was playing his music too loud.
Ya'see; Dunn's right to carry superceded that boy's right right to live... I mean right?
That's what the gun nuts think. And of course, as usual then - stupid is as stupid does.
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