Really?
While overall conviction statistics, by sheer number of convictions, would suggest folks are getting railroaded, as well as studies that show some folks cop to crimes they haven't committed, as well as the Innocence Project showing that folks are convicted when they haven't committed a crime, I don't think any one has ever done a study to see if this is happening specifically to white folks.
But if it is happening to black folks, then it is happening to folks who aren't black as well, which would include white folks.
Btw, the Innocence Project on it's own says your assertion is false.
It isn't that someone is out to railroad anybody, it is the nature of the system.
Once a person is accused, the deck is stacked against them. No matter their race.
Those are a lot of general statements, but fair enough IMO. And if someone wants to make a general case about occasional or frequent abuses by prosecutors, I'm not going to disagree, but from getting stopped by police, then potentially going in front of a prosecutor who decides whether to press charges, and if charged in front of a judge and jury, I would rather be a white male than any other possible demographic in the U.S. in every single step of that process.
And Crue Cab made this explicitly about race, and I was responding to his very SPECIFIC claim, not the more general claim you're presenting - this statement, "Shoot a black person as a white person your odds of claiming SD and prevailing are zero."
You miss my point, one I have made many times before on here about SD shootings.
I made nothing about "race" only reminding you of the circumstances going on in our country. Think Zimmerman will ever have a normal life, or the whole city of Ferguson?
How about putting an end to violence, period? Geesh.
It quacks like a duck - a duck that's a moron. :roll:
This is stupid. It is. It's like fighting with somebody because grass is green.
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No you weren't.
You were talking about what a Judge could do in the performance of their duties during a trial.
You made a blanket statement that was false.
Their duties includes Jury trials, but is not limited to.
As every one can see, you said "a trial". Not a jury trial.
Your statement was wrong and it was your failure for not being specific.
But since you want to be dishonest and deflect, when all I did was point out for clarification purposes, go ahead. Everybody can see what you are doing.
Yes. You are welcome.Oh please.
Yes. You are welcome.
You should really endeavor to keep what you say specific and accurate.
As that didn't happen, you are the only one to blame for not being specific and making false statements.You should endeavor to read and keep up with a conversation so that your posts don't reflect foolishness in the future.
So you were an eye witness.
Of course they are, as I know of no studies done specifically about white folks.Those are a lot of general statements, but fair enough IMO.
I wouldn't disagree either. It happens.And if someone wants to make a general case about occasional or frequent abuses by prosecutors, I'm not going to disagree,
Well you are skipping a lot of detail and steps there.but from getting stopped by police, then potentially going in front of a prosecutor who decides whether to press charges, and if charged in front of a judge and jury, I would rather be a white male than any other possible demographic in the U.S. in every single step of that process.
And? I didn't make comment to that.And Crue Cab made this explicitly about race, and I was responding to his very SPECIFIC claim, not the more general claim you're presenting - this statement, "Shoot a black person as a white person your odds of claiming SD and prevailing are zero."
That's true, but misses the underlying pattern:
White on white - 2,614
White on black - 193
Black on black - 2,412
Black on white - 431
Mostly, whites kill other whites and blacks kill other blacks.
Which misses the other underlying pattern.
Demographics.
Whites = 223,553,265 or 72.4 % of the population.
African Americans = 38,929,319 or 12.6 % of the population.
Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Percentages of their respective population is the real indicator.
By respective percentages of population, Blacks on a whole engage in such activity far more (multiple times more) than whites do.
I think they are telling their versions of the truth.So now you are saying the Defense is lying, too? :lol: You believe the Prosecution is lying, of course - but now the Defense is lying, too? Because the Defense argued that the SUV left to get rid of the weapon. Now they didn't?
Is anybody telling the truth in this trial? :lol:
Gosh darn it, I'll bet they wish they'd had you there, to tell them where to squat and lean. Quite honestly, it's a miracle they were able tie their shoes in the morning without you.
He already had over 60 years (minimum) coming on the prior convictions. It is nice to know that one cannot be preemptively executed because someone thinks that they might have had a gun.
Wrong.I personally do not think he ever thought the kid had a gun. He never mentioned it once when he was first interrogated by people after fleeing 200 miles. He only mentioned he said he saw a gun at trial, possibly at the advice of his attorney but I have no way of knowing for sure.
Wrong.He'd been drinking hard liquor all afternoon.
Exaggerated nonsense.Mr. Dunn reacted by executing the teen and attempting to execute every teen in the vehicle
Wrong.
Wrong.
Exaggerated nonsense.
Rouer told police that Dunn had three rum drinks before driving. Dunn and Rouer were driving back to their hotel nearby when they stopped at the GATE for wine[/I].
As that didn't happen, you are the only one to blame for not being specific and making false statements.
Wrong again.I stand corrected. He never claimed he saw a gun to his girlfriend, not investigators. Thank you.
:dohMichael Dunn and his live-in girlfriend Rhonda Rouer parked next to the SUV. The two had just attended the wedding reception of Dunn's son. Rouer told police that Dunn had three rum drinks before driving. Dunn and Rouer were driving back to their hotel nearby when they stopped at the GATE for wine.
Dunn Trial: What you need to know
:naughtyAccording to the jury.
You keep digging yourself even further. Figures.Right: it didn't happen that you kept up with the conversation. What DID happen is that you thought you found some sort of hole that you could use to try and make wrong.
(chuckle)
The jury decided on his guilt. A judge can't do that in a trial.
You keep digging yourself even further. Figures.
What do you not understand about "for clarification purposes"?
So keep digging.
Here is that original false statement again.
You are wrong because a Judge can do that during a trial.
So keep digging.
Yes your current comment is as ridiculous as your previous false statement was.Ridiculous
bye
And what she was probably saying was: "three that I personally saw". Even though there are indications that Roeur had gotten tired of Dunn (Dunn evidently had a habit of causing peole to get tired of him), she was probably not going out of her way to testify against her boyfriend either.
In short, I bet Dunn was not only a bully by nature and not only armed, but he was also drunk and.... had been "diss'ed"- maybe even where his chick could see it.
That is a bad combination- does not matter whether the person in question is a upper middle class software developer, or an inner city / barrio twenty something year old.
I dont feel sorry for him at all. Unlike say, the porch shooter, who probably made a single bad decision, Dunn a self professed "gun guy" has a pattern of making bad decisions involving fights or weapons. I have nothing against weapons per se, but alot against people like Dunn.The courts have spoken. He's in prison for life. I actually feel sorry for him.
The courts have spoken. He's in prison for life. I actually feel sorry for him. He'll never have Thanksgiving dinner with his family. He'll never celebrate Christmas unwrapping presents. No more romantic weekends with his would be wife. Just locked away with hardened criminals watching his back for reprisal attacks and hoping he doesn't get caught alone. No more vacations. Of course, I feel awful mostly for the kid he killed, his parents and other loved ones. I agree with Angela Corey, Stand Your Ground needs to be repealed...but that's another thread.
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