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Umm, eyewitness testimony IS evidence
I don't care how many are accusing, I want to see evidence. Where is it?
No. What you need is evidence.
That's the way our justice system works. The number of accusers is less important than actual evidence. You'd fit right in with the people who hanged witches back in Salem because a number of young girls pointed their fingers and accused the women of witchcraft. Or the young girls who pointed fingers at men of color around the turn of the last century, which sent the KKK out in force to lynch the accused.
Has history taught you nothing at all?
The weakest kind there is. It is a claim until supported with objectively verifiable evidence.
Eyewitness testimony IS evidence, made stronger when multiple witnesses corroborate the testimony. There are people who have spent, or will spend, their lives in jail based on less eyewitness testimony that exists against Weinstein
That is the way our justice system works. Has history taught you nothing at all?
There are so many things wrong with this Me Too movement, first of all, the fact that it is a "movement" at all. Sexual abuse reflects an individual and personal incident.
A bigger issue is not that the movement is anti-male, but that it is anti-female.
By parading hordes of women through the public eye, all claiming to have been victims of unscrupulous males at some point, the movement is making the underlying claim that women need protection -- and that's exactly what the original suffragettes fought to dispute.
The Me Too movement paints women as weak victims who must be treated with kid gloves. Instead of teaching women to take control for their own lives and strike back -- immediately -- when abused, they're sending the message that women are so weak that they must hide in shame if a man makes a pass at them.
The Me Too movement is a step backwards for women's equality and rights.
If a woman can't stick up for herself, she certainly can't expect to receive equal pay or equal job opportunities. What does this movement tell employers? It tells them that women are more trouble than they're worth.
This doesn't apply to actual crimes, which are already covered by law. This applies to the sobbing women who are too wimpy to stick up for themselves when someone they don't like asks them out on a date or brushes up against them. Huge step backwards for women's rights. Let them keep it up -- before long we may see them covered from head to toe like some Muslim women -- kept out of sight of men so the wicked men won't get nasty ideas.
"Eyewitness testimony?" You mean like the girls who swore they saw Sarah Putnam bewitch a cow into giving sour milk? They said they saw it after all. That's eyewitness testimony, right?
The Me Too movement is a throwback to 17th Century Salem.
And, look at the lynch mob that supports it.
Fascinating.
No, I mean eyewitness testimony that has rightfully put millions of criminals behind bars"Eyewitness testimony?" You mean like the girls who swore they saw Sarah Putnam bewitch a cow into giving sour milk? They said they saw it after all. That's eyewitness testimony, right?
The Me Too movement is a throwback to 17th Century Salem.
And, look at the lynch mob that supports it.
Fascinating.
No, I mean eyewitness testimony that has rightfully put millions of criminals behind bars
I've seen a few remarks about the me too movement referencing people who oppose the movement. I cannot imagine a scenario where someone can view this as a bad thing. Women are calling out sexual predators and abusers and making so that future generations won't feel the need to hide it. I decided it would probably derail the threads to ask there so gonna put it out here.
Do you support the Me Too movement?
The reason they're behind bars is because a judge or jury listened to all of the evidence and then convicted them. That's different from a lot of people pointing fingers and expecting everyone to buy into the accused's guilt without a trial.
The weakest kind there is. It is a claim until supported with objectively verifiable evidence.
If it's a throwback to Salem it's the witches protesting. Getting together because they're vulnerable when they're alone.
Says the guy who believes the Nunes memo because a proven liar says it is true. :lamo
You're reading comprehension is off again, as usual. I never said I "believed" it. It's not a religion that should be judged on "faith." I simply asked why the FBI was throwing such a fit if it was a nothingburger.
I might have thought it was a nothingburger had the FBI not thrown such a hissy fit over its release. And, they're still throwing that fit. I'd like to see the published response, but the fact that the dems are so enraged that they're writing up that response is also interesting.
They haven't actually come out and said anything in the memo was inaccurate, just that they want to put it into 'context.'
FBI Statement on HPSCI Memo
The FBI takes seriously its obligations to the FISA Court and its compliance with procedures overseen by career professionals in the Department of Justice and the FBI. We are committed to working with the appropriate oversight entities to ensure the continuing integrity of the FISA process.
With regard to the House Intelligence Committee’s memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.
You just expressed what's wrong with the Me Too movement. They feel "vulnerable when they're alone." That's been my point all along. The idea that women are somehow weaker and unable to stick up for themselves. Keep it up -- you'll get them back under those burqas after all.
Well that's a dumb response. Are you really trying to deny that women are physically weaker then men? Or that they're often in male-dominated circumstances? As for that stupid 'burqa' shot, makes no sense at all.
There's a problem. Denying it won't help the situation, but the #metoo movement will.
For some reason, folks taking matters into their own hands is alarming to some people. You'll just have to get used to being alarmed. This kind of thing is going to happen whenever it needs to.
No, you never said that
And the FBI clearly stated the memo is inaccurate. They also have not thrown a hissy fit. What they did was issue a statement
If issuing a statement is a hissy fit, then president pansy has thrown several every day
And there we have it -- women are weaker and can't handle themselves.
The suffragettes must literally be rolling in their graves.
Women often ARE physically weaker
But I guess we should stop prosecuting muggers because it will convince law-abiding citizens that they cant handle themselves
You're missing the point that there's something in the memo that set the FBI off. And, no, the FBI did NOT say the memo was inaccurate -- they said they wanted to add "context."
FBI Statement on HPSCI Memo
The FBI takes seriously its obligations to the FISA Court and its compliance with procedures overseen by career professionals in the Department of Justice and the FBI. We are committed to working with the appropriate oversight entities to ensure the continuing integrity of the FISA process.
With regard to the House Intelligence Committee’s memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.
I've never actually seen such a big stink over releasing a document as over this memo. If the FBI can show no bias was involved -- let them do so. If they don't do that -- they'll be facing a crediblity problem and the Mueller investigation will be tainted because of it.
Belief doesn't figure in.
Poor victimised sexual predators. :roll:
Mugging is a physical assault -- on either a man or a woman.
The movement has the potential to become an abuse of power itself. How many innocent men are you willing to sacrifice on the altar of female domination?
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