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McCain advisers say they're saving their best material for the last 10 days

Knowing Republicans, their best material would be "Don't vote for the nigg*r."
 
Perhaps the Republicans should remind people not to vote to posit themselves as nigg*rs on the Government Plantation.

Run along and vote away your freedom (& mine) and collect your Government reward in the form of a tax credit that you never paid in to in the first place!!
 
PerryLogan said:
Knowing Republicans, their best material would be "Don't vote for the nigg*r."
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McCain's family would like to have a word with you about that comment

bilde


After they're done voting for Obama of course.
 
Lets see...

Maybe McCain will get emotional and cry like Hillary did in the primaries so voters will feel sorry for him...
 
conquer said:
Lets see...

Maybe McCain will get emotional and cry like Hillary did in the primaries so voters will feel sorry for him...
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That's a sight I'd rather not see.
 
1069 said:
That's a sight I'd rather not see.
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Lets wait and see.

Right now Republicans are like Hillary Clinton in her las 10 primaries when she used all kind of arguments and nothing changed the winning path of Obama.

The nomination of McCain has created internal problems in the GOP from the very beginning and still there are doubts of a good outcoming. At this moment, Republicans have started to blame one to another about the possible losing of the presidency and some seats in Congress, and they haven't lose yet!
 
I'm expecting more maverickiness. :lol:
 
MDM said:
I'm expecting more maverickiness. :lol:
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That word stuck in you mind is exactly what Republicans want, so keep mentioning it. :mrgreen:
 
American said:
Really, prove it.
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toledoblade.com -- 'Joe the plumber' isn’t licensed
Article published Thursday, October 16, 2008
SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP
'Joe the plumber' isn’t licensed
Local man focus of presidential debate
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Springfield Township resident Joe Wurzelbacher answers questions from the media on his front porch.

( THE BLADE/LORI KING )
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By LARRY VELLEQUETTE and TOM TROY
BLADE STAFF WRITERS

"Joe the Plumber" isn’t a plumber — at least not a licensed one, or a registered one.

A check of state and local licensing agencies in Ohio and Michigan shows no plumbing licenses under Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher’s name, or even misspellings of his name.

Last night, his name, "Joe the Plumber," came up about two dozen times in the debate between Mr. Obama and Republican nominee John McCain.

Since last night Mr. Wurzelbacher who lives alone with his 13-year-old son has been besieged with local and national news media, willingly granting interviews.

Mr. Wurzelbacher told reporters Thursday morning that he worked for Newell Plumbing & Heating Co., a small local firm whose business addresses flow back to several residential homes, including one on Talmadge Road in Ottawa Hills.

According to Lucas County Building Inspection records, A. W. Newell Corp. does maintain a state plumbing license, and one with the City of Toledo, but would not be allowed to work in Lucas County outside of Toledo without a county license.
Mr. Wurzelbacher said he works under Al Newell’s license, but according to Ohio building regulations, he must maintain his own license to do plumbing work.

He is also not registered to operate as a plumber in Ohio, which means he’s not a plumber.

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he was hired by Mr. Newell six years ago and that the possibility of him eventually buying the company was discussed during his job interview.

He said it’s his understanding he can work under Mr. Newell’s license as long as the licensed contractor works on the same site.

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he is working on taking the Ohio plumbing contractors’ license test.

Mr. Wurzelbacher’s notoriety has raised the ire of Tom Joseph, business manager for Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters, and Service Mechanics, who claimed that Mr. Wurzelbacher didn’t undergo any apprenticeship training.

"When you have guys going out there with no training whatsoever, it’s a little disreputable to start with," Mr. Joseph said. "We’re the real Joe the Plumber."

Mr. Joseph said Mr. Wurzelbacher could only legally work in the townships, but not in any municipality in Lucas County or elsewhere in the country.

"This individual has got no schooling, no licenses, he’s never been to a training program, union or non-union, in the United States of America," Mr. Joseph said.

The association has endorsed Barack Obama, according to Mr. Joseph.

Questions were raised Thursday morning whether Mr. Wurzelbacher is a registered voter.

Linda Howe, executive director of the Lucas County Board of Elections, said a Samuel Joseph Worzelbacher, whose address and age match Joe the Plumber’s, registered in Lucas County on Sept. 10, 1992. He voted in his first primary on March 4 of this year, registering as a Republican.

Ms. Howe said that the name may be misspelled in the database.

Mr. Wurzelbacher, 34, acknowledged during an interview at his home late Thursday morning that he knows he’s "a flash in the pan," after his fame spread for an impromptu debate he had in front of his Springfield Township home with Mr. Obama last Sunday.

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he objects to Mr. Obama’s plans to raise income taxes on incomes above $250,000. He said he makes no where near that much money but he would not say how much he makes or if he ever expects to make $250,000. Court records from a divorce show Mr. Wurzelbacher made $40,000 in 2006.

He said, "Is it right to take someone’s money because they work a little harder? It’s taking away from someone’s hard work."

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he disagrees with the idea of people being taxed at a higher rate because they earn more.

"They’re going to take more of your money because you’ve been more successful," he said.

In January, 2007, the Ohio Department of Taxation placed a lien against him because $1,183 in personal property taxes had not been paid, but there has been no action in the case since it was filed.

Mr. Wurzelbacher was playing football in his front yard with his son, Joey, on Sunday afternoon when Mr. Obama made an unscheduled stop to go door to door greeting voters and asking for their support.

In his conversation with Mr. Wurzelbacher, Mr. Obama tried to justify his plan tax breaks to 95 percent of Americans and raise taxes on incomes above $250,000.

Mr. Obama said his plan would improve the economy for other people trying to get a start in small business, and "spread the wealth."

The phrase was quickly picked up by conservative bloggers and commentators saying it reveals a desire to redistributed wealth on the part of Mr. Obama.

During that same conversation, Mr. Wurzelbacher advocated a flat tax to Mr. Obama under which everyone would pay the same rate of tax which was a feature of Mike Huckabee’s unsuccessful campaign for the Republican nomination this year.

Mr. Wurzelbacher said he was surprised by the spread the wealth phrase.

"That’s a pretty socialist comment. Two-fifty ($250,000) is his number now. When is it going to be one fifty ($150,000), when it’s going to be one hundred ($100,000)?"

He continued: "If you believe him, I would be receiving his tax cut," adding that he would not want the tax cut.

He won’t say who he will vote for on Nov. 4, but did say he likes Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

He said he was born in the Toledo area, lived until he was 13 in the Florida Panhandle area, went to Springfield High School, and then entered the U.S. Air Force. He was stationed at an Air Force base in Alaska from 1992 until 1995. He said he was honorably discharged.

Mr. Wurzelbacher also said he lived in Arizona from 1997 until 2000.

'Joe the Plumber' is focus of presidential debate's first few minutes
From earlier editions of toledoblade.com
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By BRIDGET THARP and MARK ZABORNEY
BLADE STAFF WRITERS

The story of "Joe the Plumber" - Joe Wurzelbacher of Shrewsbury Street in Springfield Township - became a centerpiece of the early minutes of the presidential debate last night.

And Joe the Plumber became the subject of national and international interest.

Mr. Wurzelbacher, 34, was more interested in taking in the debate than in assessing his place in presidential politics.

"Honestly, I'm a small part of it," Mr. Wurzelbacher said. "They're just using me as an example right now for the American public. I think they're discussing more important is-sues."

He excused himself so he could finish watching Barack Obama and John McCain debate.

But after the debate, Mr. Wurzelbacher expressed some embarrassment that he was now known across America as Joe the Plumber.

"There's a lot more important issues than me, and I'm starting to feel a little uncomfortable with it," he said. "Everyone's more worried about what Joe the Plumber has to say than what Obama or McCain has to say."

While watching the debate at home with his father, he was interrupted several times by calls from the national media including CNN, Fox News, and Good Morning America. In addition, CNBC, ABC News, the Wall Street Journal, the Houston Chronicle, and the BBC called The Blade in their quest to reach Joe the Plumber.

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Mr. Obama didn't win Mr. Wurzelbacher's support on Sunday, and he didn't change his mind last night.
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Mr. Wurzelbacher and Mr. Obama had something of a debate Sunday as the candidate walked house to house on Shrewsbury at the start of the candidate's four-day visit in the Toledo area.

He told Mr. Obama that he was trying to buy a plumbing business.

"I'm being taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream," Mr. Wurzelbacher said Sunday.

Mr. Obama said, in part, "It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success, too.

"I think that when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

The exchange was caught on videotape and was broadcast on a variety of news outlets and put on numerous Web sites, including YouTube.

It was the "spread the wealth around" comment that caught the attention of conservative commentators, including Rush Limbaugh, and in discussions on the Internet. Mr. Wurzelbacher was a guest of Fox News' Neil Cavuto on Tuesday.

During the debate, Mr. McCain challenged Mr. Obama: "Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these years, worked 10, 12 hours a day. And he wanted to buy the business, but he looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much higher taxes."

"You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket which was going to increase his taxes, which was going to cause him not to be able to employ people, which Joe was trying to realize the American dream," Mr. McCain said.

Mr. McCain then looked directly into the television camera and said: "Joe, I want to tell you, I'll not only help you buy that business that you worked your whole life for and I'll keep your taxes low and I'll provide available and affordable health care for you and your employees. And I will not stand for a tax increase on small-business income."

Mr. Obama denied that was true.

"Not only do 98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000, but I also want to give them additional tax breaks because they are the drivers of the economy," Mr. Obama said. "They produce the most jobs."

Mr. Wurzelbacher came up again when the debate turned to a discussion of health-care policies.

Mr. McCain charged that Mr. Obama's plan would fine the company Mr. Wurzelbacher wanted to buy; Mr. Obama said small businesses were exempt.

"Hey Joe, you're rich. Congratulations," Mr. McCain said mockingly.

Mr. Obama didn't win Mr. Wurzelbacher's support on Sunday, and he didn't change his mind last night.

He did allow, "Obama, you can't take away that he's a damn good speaker."

Overall, though, Mr. Wurzelbacher was pleased with Mr. McCain's performance.

"McCain was doing much better this time," he said. "McCain came across with some solid points. I like his tax cuts."

But he said Mr. Obama's health-care plan scares him.

"It's just one step closer to socialism," he said.

He said he hopes both candidates will talk about family and family values before the November election because he believes problems such as education and senior health care should come back to families taking care of each other. "Sense of family has to be brought back," Mr. Wurzelbacher said.

He added: "I believe there was too much emphasis put on me. The debate was more important."

Information from the Associated Press was used in this report.
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independent_thinker2002 said:
Yeah! Why won't he tells us his favorite porn site?

His favorite sexual position?

His wildest sexual fantasy?

Why hasn't he released his home phone number, cell phone number, and social security number?

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO HE LOST HIS VIRGINITY TO!!!!!!!!

Iiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Did you launch yourself from your chair and roll around on the floor kicking and screaming before or after you hit the submit reply button?

Blame John McCain for setting up this guy to be scrutinized, not the media. And then blame "Joe the guy without a plumbers license" for happily meeting with and talking to the press. And then thank the media for exposing the truth, that either he or John McCain is a liar. Which one do YOU think is the liar?
 
Well since we only have 8 days left to use their "best material" I'd suggest they hop to it.
 
Slippery Slope said:
Did you launch yourself from your chair and roll around on the floor kicking and screaming before or after you hit the submit reply button?

Blame John McCain for setting up this guy to be scrutinized, not the media. And then blame "Joe the guy without a plumbers license" for happily meeting with and talking to the press. And then thank the media for exposing the truth, that either he or John McCain is a liar. Which one do YOU think is the liar?
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Can you smell that?


















It's the smell of sarcasm. :mrgreen:
 
RightinNYC said:
I'll give you a hint. It starts with "B" and ends with "ill Ayers (who is also a terrorist)"
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You stole that joke from me!!!

Which I totally stole from Maddox.
 
McCain probably plans to run very negative, very ugly ads the last few days thinking Obama won't have tme to counter them. However, I've read Obama's team has several very negative ads already in the can, or jewel case. If McCain lets his go, they'll release theirs.


McCain is toast!
 
shuamort said:
1) What do you think this could be?
2) Is it too late because people have already made up their minds?
3) Is it too late because a lot of people are voting early too?
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So it's less than 10 days before the election, and I'll I have seen is more of the same. *yawn*
 
RightinNYC said:
I'll give you a hint. It starts with "B" and ends with "ill Ayers (who is also a terrorist)"
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If that is the "best" material McCain has, McCain is in trouble :lol:

Especially since Palin endorsed a corrupt politician.
 
MrVicchio said:
The race is close, within the margin of error with the reliable polls, the media has shown they'll go out of their way to defend "that one" so it makes sense to cut the reaction time of Obama's press corps.

Hell after what the media did to "Joe Plumber" I think most American's realize that if they ask "that one" a question and cause him embarrassment they will get attacked relentlessly.
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"Joe the Plumber" did more good for McCain than any ad campaign could do, and it seems the guy could take the heat. The media did try to do everything and anything to the guy, but still it was advantageous for McCain cause it showed what Obama's real plans are. Obama was unscripted at that moment, and it slipped out. Hope a few more Joe's fall out of these crowds in the coming days.
 
Marilyn Monroe said:
"Joe the Plumber" did more good for McCain than any ad campaign could do, and it seems the guy could take the heat. The media did try to do everything and anything to the guy, but still it was advantageous for McCain cause it showed what Obama's real plans are. Obama was unscripted at that moment, and it slipped out. Hope a few more Joe's fall out of these crowds in the coming days.
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"Joe the fraud" is nothing more than a gimmick and slogan. It's thin.

Obama is better than running around accusing McCain of wanting to "horde the wealth".
 
I pointed this out a few weeks ago.

http://bareknuckledpundit.blogspot.com/2008/10/election-yet-to-be-decided-mccain-shock.html

McCain and some of his closest advisers believe this coming weekend is when the race will ultimately be decided.

They're basing their hopes on the 1980 Carter-Reagan model. That race was really decided on the Sunday before the Election; though that didn't exactly turn out well for the incumbent.

In my opinion, McCain - as the Republican Party's standard bearer with a Republican currently occupying the White House - has by default assumed the role of the incumbent in this race. That being the case, the 1980 model does not portend well for the Arizonan's presidential prospects.

I suppose, at this late hour, one analogy for McCain's strategy might be that with limited ammo, you wait till you see the whites of their eyes, as the old saying goes.

Being an avid football fan, one could also pull out the worn and weathered Hail Mary analogy. Maybe the McCain camp should call Doug Flutie for some last minute game-saving pointers.
 
The Bare Knuckled Pundit said:
I pointed this out a few weeks ago.

THE BARE KNUCKLED PUNDIT: Election Yet To Be Decided; McCain "Shock and Awe" Still To Come

McCain and some of his closest advisers believe this coming weekend is when the race will ultimately be decided.

They're basing their hopes on the 1980 Carter-Reagan model. That race was really decided on the Sunday before the Election; though that didn't exactly turn out well for the incumbent.

In my opinion, McCain - as the Republican Party's standard bearer with a Republican currently occupying the White House - has by default assumed the role of the incumbent in this race. That being the case, the 1980 model does not portend well for the Arizonan's presidential prospects.

I suppose, at this late hour, one analogy for McCain's strategy might be that with limited ammo, you wait till you see the whites of their eyes, as the old saying goes.

Being an avid football fan, one could also pull out the worn and weathered Hail Mary analogy. Maybe the McCain camp should call Doug Flutie for some last minute game-saving pointers.
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I think selecting Palin was his "Hail Mary". It's too late to make her look competent.
 
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