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Maybe the Polls are Rigged?

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No, they're saying that the poll on November 3rd was rigged.
And they will continue to say that for the next four years unless there is an investigation.

If there is an investigation and it doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.

And if that investigation ...​
 

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And they will continue to say that for the next four years unless there is an investigation.

If there is an investigation and it doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation doesn't *P*R*O*V*E** that the November 2020 election was rigged, then they will demand a subsequent investigation to uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** AND to uncover why the prior investigation didn't uncover **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H**.​
And if that investigation ...​
Tl;dr

formatting needs an eyewash station available!
 

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Was Jeff Bezos (WaPo) correct that Biden would carry Wisconsin by 17 points? If you can't believe the billionaires who all supported Joe Biden, who can you believe? The one thing people know is that billionaires are the most ethical people incapable of lying on earth. That's how they became billionaires - by being perfect humanitarians and truth tellers. That's what nearly all Democratic progressive corporate fascists believe anyway. Jeff Bezos is going to save them.
Does this include Sheldon Adelson?
 

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Don't know much about him. Possibly so.
You seem to be playing dumb here, you know Adelson is the billionaire who gave millions to the Trump campaign, and his wife gave a few million more, disproving your storyline that all billionaires support democrats.
 

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You seem to be playing dumb here, you know Adelson is the billionaire who gave millions to the Trump campaign, and his wife gave a few million more, disproving your storyline that all billionaires support democrats.
You had to go down to #28 to find one? LOL
 

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You had to go down to #28 to find one? LOL
Your post said all the billionaires donated to the democrats, I used Adelsons name to prove you wrong, but if you want a list just google billionaires who donated to Trump, there are 50 or so.
 

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I bunch of people were massively embarrassed to tell someone on the phone that they were going to vote for Trump again.
Ummmmmmm, Trump was running for the White House, not the Congressional House. You can't think past, "Me hateum Trump".
 

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Ummmmmmm, Trump was running for the White House, not the Congressional House. You can't think past, "Me hateum Trump".
and you can't think past congressional polls to presidential polls and why people would be embarrassed to even be associated with this republican party.

which didn't stop many of the lowlifes from voting for Trump/Republicans.
 

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If the poll is intentionally biased, then I think the term "rigged" fits.
To me it sounds more like Trump managed to successfully impede the post office enough to ensure a statistical change in voting outcomes. Liberals voted by mail more, if enough mail in votes were held up that shifts the outcomes towards the GOP.
 

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To me it sounds more like Trump managed to successfully impede the post office enough to ensure a statistical change in voting outcomes. Liberals voted by mail more, if enough mail in votes were held up that shifts the outcomes towards the GOP.
A guess or is there proof of that?
 

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... and that proof that is Trump's doing?
It's his administration. He's president. He's responsible. He needs to tell the stooge he put in charge of the post office to do his job.
 

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Ah, so it is opinion. Thanks.
It is a basic principle of law that "the principle" is responsible for the actions of "the agent".

In this case, Mr. Trump is "the principle" and the Post Master General is "the agent".
 

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Ok, I know when the Republicans say "the media's polls are rigged!" it sounds like mindless Trumpism, but more and more a rational mind has to agree there is something to these complaints.

A case in point, The Cook Political Report bills itself as "... an independent, non-partisan newsletter that analyzes elections and campaigns for the US House of Representatives, US Senate, Governors and President as well as American political trends." Their studies are cited widely in the media as "non-partisan." (a quick Google will confirm this).

Here's the thing, on November 2nd, the day before the election, they published a report labeling 27 House races as "toss ups."

https://cookpolitical.com/ratings/house-race-ratings

... yet the GOP won every single one of those 27 races. How can that happen? I realize it's a bit simplistic to liken a close race to a coin flip, but the etymology of the term "toss-up" does come from the act of flipping a coin, so a 50/50 chance is clearly what is meant by the term. The odds of flipping a coin 27 times and having it come up heads 27 times in a row is 1 in 134,217,728 (i.e. 2 to the 27th power). A quick search of the web tells me those chances are roughly 268 times more remote than the chances of any one of you reading this message being struck by lightning this year.

So are we really to believe Cook was this wrong merely by chance?
Suppression polling. It's a big part of our politics. When you have a partisan media that serve as the propaganda arm of one party, the polls can't be trusted.
 

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It is a basic principle of law that "the principle" is responsible for the actions of "the agent".

In this case, Mr. Trump is "the principle" and the Post Master General is "the agent".
One can be accountable for a mistake and not have wished for, or planned for, that mistake to happen.

Your logic error is asserting that because X happened on Trump’s watch that Trump orchestrated X. That alone doesn’t fly.
 

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Suppression polling. It's a big part of our politics. When you have a partisan media that serve as the propaganda arm of one party, the polls can't be trusted.
It must feel awful to be so weak and helpless in the media
 

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One can be accountable for a mistake and not have wished for, or planned for, that mistake to happen.

Your logic error is asserting that because X happened on Trump’s watch that Trump orchestrated X. That alone doesn’t fly.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, the "official line" is that Mr. Trump is NOT RESPONSIBLE for anything.
 

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And what about the polls in this forum? :)
The polls on this forum are "self selected polls" which are notoriously inaccurate. Not only that but absolutely no attempt was made to ensure that the respondents were "normalized" so that the end results more accurately reflected the actual makeup of the American polity (which makes them even more inaccurate).
 
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